reagan, he's a chest cheating expert, and a professor of computer science had the university at buffalo. he joined us from ham host in new york. good abbey with us of cut off your 1st guess. so what do you make of this was the cheating in that match or not? i have no evidence of cheating that match and i'm on record as such. i was screening the tournament officially or the chief arbiter and they, we made a press release saying, so those cheating primarily occur in chess when it's an online distance game where you can get the help of computers or is it more pervasive than that? yes, unfortunately, online chess, the raw cheating rate is about a $100.00 to $200.00 times higher than an over the board chess. and over the board chest, the best decade has had maybe $5.00 to $10.00 credible cases a year and not all ultimately sustain but online, cheating it into the hundreds. how do you detect cheating then? well, i deal with the statistical end of it. so i check only the moves of the game. i have a predictive analytic model. set, set expectations based of players ratings for how many agreement