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kelly >> richard john kelly, jr. >> thomas michael kelly >> thomas richard kelly >> thomas w. kelly >> timothy colin kelly >> william hill kelly, jr. >> robert clinton kennedy >> and my brother philip peering phil being older than me was someone i looked up to. after my parents he was the most influential person in my life. his leadership and actions on september 11, 2001 and those actions of all the members of the latter 12 is anything short of heroic. and there were civilians who survived thanks to the response of these men who led them out of the building. there are some of the many true heroes during this attack and i am always humbled to honor them. i love you, phil. see you later. [applause] >> and my brother peter christian. peter, it has been 21 years since we said goodbye to a father and the best buddy i ever had. he is doing good for a guy 96. i would like to read a message from peter's wife -- there are no words that will convert this day. we thin about him every dayk . this day marks our souls forever. peter's laughter like his strength lives on through his remarka

i'm thinking, that must mean thomas, that's gotta be thomas! i said i was a journalist, i did not say i was a good journalist. of course, it is taylor. it is taylor. it took some understanding to say, wait a minute, gayle, this is the taylor family. now we call this the taylor bible. my uncle bequeathed this bible to me along with the pictures, so i'm grateful to him and to my cousins who honored that because, had i've been in his shoes i never would've turned over those items. by uncle also shared with me this photograph. now, this is my grandmother's sister. and you can see how fabulous she is. this woman lived as a white woman. which is why i'm not sure of her name. she left her family. my grandfather said that when my grandmother became ill and died, and all four girls died with the exception of carey, and two boys, my aunt comes, she lived in new york. she comes to visit and she says, i want these children to come with me. i want to care for them. she was quite wealthy, as you can see. i want to make sure they are educated and i will care

so i kind of got stuck on the tv there and i'm thinking that must mean thomas. gotta be thomas. i said i was a journalist. i did not say i was a good journalist. of course. it's tailor. it's tailor. it took us understand. to say right gail. look at this and i started to her it's that's the taylor family. so now now we call this the taylor bible. and my uncle bequeath this bible to me along with those pictures. you just saw some very grateful to him and to my cousins who actually honored that because had i been in his shoes. i would never have turned over those items. my uncle also shared with me this photograph. now, this is my grandmother's sister. and you can see how fabulous she is. this woman lived as a white woman. which is why i'm not sure of her name. because she left her family and here's the story behind us. my grandfather said that when my grandmother became ill and died and all four girls died with the exception of one caring and the two boys my grand my aunt comes and she she lived in new york and she comes to visit and she says i want these three children to come wi

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>> i was saying what happened to that ginni thomas. the thomas that called for peaceful transfer of power when it was donald trump winning the election. >> yeah it doesn't appear that she has intellectual consistency about that. and actually has a partisan view of it which is she wanted the republican to be president when he won the election and wanted the republican to be president when he lost the election. >> alicia support for the supreme court has plunged to a record low, with -- 40% with independents. how much do you think the role that ginni thomas has played in trying to overturn our electionn addition to decisions like the overturning of roe v. wade and a lot of others? >> well i think it's complicated. i think for a lot of people in this country they are watching this kind of news and saying who? but at the end of the day the deep dissatisfaction with the direction of the supreme court has everything to do with the fact that the public perception is that the supreme court is taking rights away as opposed to expanding rights o

let's take a quick listen. >> do you expect anything that ginni thomas told -- thomas said yesterday to be part of the hearing? >> the potential -- >> yeah, for including her in that hearing. >> some of the things she might have said, but it won't be primary for the hearing. >> so, dave, what's the possible downside to using ginni thomas' testimony, i mean don't you think the american public should hear what the wife of a supreme court justice thinks about the 2020 election? >> sure, katie, but ginni thomas lives in crazy town. she is a true believer so i don't think she's going to give inch information other than the big lie. maybe the import of her testimony could be to give information on john eastman who she was in collaboration with apparently and he was one of the architects of this coup but as joyce says, this is not going to help the january 6th committee. in the long run it's about change to the supreme court, because right now the supreme court doesn't follow any of the rules the other judges do, they don't have a code of conduct and so you can have a justice like clarence

thomas tuchel arrived _ not where we want to be. thomas tuchel arrived in _ not where we want to be. thomas tuchel arrived in 2021 _ not where we want to be. thomas tuchel arrived in 2021 and - not where we want to be. thomas tuchel arrived in 2021 and won - not where we want to be. thomas| tuchel arrived in 2021 and won the biggest prize four months later. he won the club broke up as well but now chelsea have a new owner with ronan abramovich gone the american bought the cough was statement said is the new ownership group... it's thought thomas tuchel was set to go even before last night. the communication broke down between him and the board. for all the germans success he was less than two years in the job. success he was less than two years in thejob. now success he was less than two years in the job. now those who could replace him and know the stakes. brightens graham potter is set to hold talks with chelsea, but would he give up a project for this pressure? i he give up a pro'ect for this prssureh he give up a pro'ect for thi

conservative activist ginni thomas, wife of clarence thomas, agreed to meet voluntarily with the committee for a closed door interview. i am sure the committee will have a lot to ask her about. ginni thomas reportedly exchanged text messages with trump chief of staff mark meadows shortly after the election urging him to help overturn the results. according to cnn, after the election was called for biden, thomas wrote the former chief of staff, "help this great president stand firm, mark. the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history." thomas also reportedly e-mailed an aide in indiana saying she wouldn't support his republican study committee group until she saw us members "out in the streets." thomas also e-mailed 29 arizona state lawmakers urging them to overturn the election results, e-mailing to say they had the, quote, power to fight back against fraud and ensure a clean slate of electors is chosen. for the record, they were fraudulent impersonators. if that all wasn't enough, thomas tried the very same ploy with wisconsin state lawmakers. her o

thomas sowell was canceled long time ago. he's a conservative. he's a black conservative and way back in the 1970s and i began writing about racial controversies. he was an intellectual at the academy and in the media and he has never really shook that. i thinkk it's something is in terms of not writing probably the main reason a lot of people today know names like ta-nehisi coats or cornel west but not thomas sowell withstand -- he's really written circles around those folks and maybe all of them combined. and not only in terms of the breadth of his work but also the vigor of his analysis. they remain much better known than thomas sowell that was one of the reasons i wanted to write the book. >> host: to true important book. was anything surprising in your research? >> guest: well i followed north korea for quite a while and i've been writing this for a long time as well. i got to know him a little bit so not too much surprise me. one thing that might surprise a lot of people though is what a late start sowell gotten his professional life. mr. s

let's talk ginni thomas for a moment if we can. i want it read for you a part of the letter to ginni thomas from the january 6th committee, honing in on and specifically it is the conversation, and writing this, we're specifically investigating the activities of president trump, john eastman, and others, as they relate to the constitution, and certain other laws, including the electoral counteract that set off the required process for the election and inauguration of the president. the select committee has obtained evidence that john eastman worked to develop alternate slates of electors to stop the electoral count back in january. talk to me if you can about this development, when asked now about, this confirmation with ginni thomas and the fact that she will be meeting with the january 6th committee, and the connection to eastman. >> so, as ali said, this is something that they have been wanting for months. a conversation with ginni thomas and it started when these text messages, from mark meadows, then chief of staff for donald

thomas: no, that will not happen. no. i mean, they will have to go through a serious depression to do that, and they will not do that. guy: is that good news for stocks or bad news? you talk about how the lows are not in yet, how low will he go? and once we get down there, how low? thomas: the bottom is between 3300 and 3500, the market will stay there for a while and then around an inflationary economy and then as replacements are increasing inflation i faang stocks got -- i think that stocks go into a high from there. alix: what are hedge funds doing? i feel like person after person is not sitting in cash, what are you noticing in terms of hedge fund flows. thomas: hedge funds seeing a lot of cash. and so our cash reserves and customers' cash reserves have risen in the course of the last several months. very substantially. and they are at an all-time high right now. and i think they will start coming into the market as it continues to go down. alix: that was what i was going to ask. you would think that they are sitting

thomas tuchel cutting a frustrated _ all. thomas tuchel cutting a frustrated figure, _ all. thomas tuchel cutting a frustrated figure, as - all. thomas tuchel cutting a frustrated figure, as his - all. thomas tuchel cutting a | frustrated figure, as his side all. thomas tuchel cutting a - frustrated figure, as his side were humiliated by lowly dinamo zagreb. it continued a poor start to the season. but even by this club's standards, today's sacking of one of the world's best coaches particularly ruthless. ina in a statement, chelsea said... tuchel�*s departure came as a shock to many, but speaking after his team's third defeat of the season, his exasperation had been evident. this is a huge underperformance from all of us. it is not precise enough, it is not clinical enough, it is not aggressive enough on the ball. it is not determined enough. it was only last year that tuchel led chelsea to champions league glory, just months after taking over. more trophies followed, and the german gained praise for his calm leadership during the club's sale by roman abramovich, after th

conservative activists ginni thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, has agreed to meet voluntarily with the committee for a closed-door interview. and i'm sure the committee will have a lot to ask her about. ginni thomas reportedly exchanged text messages with trump chief of staff mark meadows shortly after the election, urging him to help overturn its results. according to cnn, after the election was called for biden, thomas rode the former staff chief of staff, quote, help this great president stand firm, mark! the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. thomas also reportedly emailed an aide to republican congressman jim banks of indiana, saying she would not support his republican study committee group until she saw its members, quote, out in the streets. thomas also emailed 29 hours on a state lawmakers, urging them to overturn the election results, emailing to say that they had the, quote, power to fight back against fraud and ensure that a clean slate of electors is chosen. for the record, those clean slates of elections

thomas: thank you. and then liza, i wanted to accept your invitation for talking about congressional solutions a bit during the q&a. i wonder if you could expand on those a bit and also specifically speak to the extent you can, how do you convince people with political concerns or the sort of risk adverseness that you might expect to run any risk of national security concerns? and what sort of elevator pitch to the congressperson who thinks the last thing i want to do is pass any law that has a chance of letting the terrorists get away with something? elizabeth: i just want to point out, first of all, the litigation we're talking about is litigation that has been bubbling up for about 20 years and has to do with government programs that are basically no longer in place and has to do with terrorists who are no longer in place. and so the notion that actually hearing these cases through and having some kind of accountability for these abuses that happened 20 years is going to harm our national security to

in other news, virginia thomas, the wife of supreme court, justice clarence thomas, meeting with the january six committee, with the washington post is nearly five hours. our first guest tonight, congressman adam schiff, in this community. virginia's thomas lawyers, answering every one of the committee's questions today. we will see if congressman schiff can confirm that with us. and, we have congressman schiff 's appears to be what vladimir putin's plan to have a formal annexation ceremony, tomorrow, in moscow, in which demand dictator will pretend, that some eastern in ukraine is in western russia. virginia thomas is providing portions of the written opening statement to the committee to a wacky, right wing website, calling itself the federalist. formally not associated with the federalist society, controlling republican appointments to federal judgeships. virginia thomas, asking the committee to believe this. about her communication with her husband. so, that's a 2020 election. it did not speak with them at all, who has the details of the communities, and did not speak with, them

you have done a service to the intellectual life of america by writing a biography of thomas sowell and i'll begin in an odd way. how do you explain si think i know the answer but nevertheless i want your answer. how do you explain that one of the finest minds of the last half century is unknown to have america. >> well, i guess to use today's parlance, thomas soul was canceled long time ago. he's a conservative. he's a black conservative. and way back in the 1970s when he began writing about t racial controversies, he got in trouble with a lot of his fellow intellectuals and in the academy. and in the media and he's never really sure that. i think it's something that has cost him professionally in terms of notoriety and it's probably the main reason a lot of people today known names like ta-nehisi coates but not thomas sowell notwithstanding the fact that he's written circles around those folks . maybe all ofthem combined . and not only in terms of brett of his work but also the rigor of the analysis is really unmatched by those folks yet they remain much better better known than thoma

is it possible clarence thomas had in idea of the activities of ginni thomas? possible. had no idea what was going on during the election and biden and trump and her connections to the administration? possible. sit probable? i can't even get my arms to being probable. you don't have any specific proof of clarence pushing this, great, that's fine. we got to find out. >> it's not an academic question anymore. it's seen real life application. election related cases have come before the united states supreme court. and clarence thomas was the only justice to side with donald trump when he asked the supreme court to block the release of white house records concerning the 1/6 insurrection. i'm going get into all of this and more with barbara mcquade. we're back in 60 seconds. quade. we're back in 60 seconds hello c! hello, kevin hart! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. why give your family just ordinary eggs when they can enjoy the best? eggland's best. the only eggs with more fresh and deliciou

officer thomas joined the forese nearly 14 years ago. he quickly became a familiar face to many of the senators and staff serving. by all accounts, his dedication and professionalism and service in the senate division and most recently in the communications division were a credit to the entire department and to our institutions. officer thomas in the close knit community of brave men and women to keep us safe here thee capital. the entire senate joins officer thomas as well as his brothers and sisters here in uniform for morning this tragic loss. now in an entirely different manner. we learned last week it's now at the highest level since 1979. for folks on the phoenix metro metroarea where inflation alreay outpaces the national average that's met a 3 3% inflation taxn food in just the last two months. according to one arizona shopper, it's all almost $300. i used to get the same groceries for like $150 before. across the border in nevada the review journal reported how the local coffee shops are caught between high cost of supplies and

. >>> and still ahead, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas ginny thomas, she finally testified in person today before the january 6th select committee. and almost two years after president joe biden's win in the 2020 election, you will not believe what she said. she told the committee she thinks the election was stolen from donald trump. all those stories and more when "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. e" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. for the #1 stain fighter and odor remover, it's got to be tide. president biden has now signed the inflation reduction act into law. ok, so what exactly does it mean for you? out of pocket costs for drugs will be capped. for seniors, insulin will be just $35. families will save $2,400 on health care premiums. energy costs, down an average of $1,800 a year for families. and it's paid for by making the biggest corporations pay what they owe. president biden's bill doesn't fix everything, but it will save your family money. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> jacob. watch over here. >

clarence thomas's wife. ginni thomas. and while chairman bennie thompson wouldn't tell me when that interview would take place. he said that there is no rush to have this take place before wednesdays hearing. but he said that he knows that this testimony will be significant because of the firsthand knowledge of so many topics that we have already seen in percent in past hearings. and lastly, that the committee is now having access to this thread that a arizona judge granted access to an arizona chairwoman of the republican party. access to her phone records to the committee. she was one of over 80 of these so-called fake electors that the committee subpoenaed earlier. so it's going to be interesting to see how this new information could possibly make it into this next hearing, or possibly into this final interim report that the committee is expected to release over the next few months. >> our allie raffa. thank you so much for being with us live on capitol hill this morning. so that many investigations into donald trump a

they're all trying to get close to clarence thomas and influence clarence thomas through ginny. that's what's going on. that's why they're paying her. that's why mark meadows was taking her calls. if you look at those 29 emails that go back and forth, it's pretty obvious if her name was ginni jones, she would not have gotten past the operator at the white house. they're all trying to influence clarence thomas through her. and that is what's really going on, and that's why this is so evil. >> we don't have much time, but do you have any comment on this special master, aileen cannon, this judge who has essentially delayed, allowed a delay in trump having to file an affidavit saying he believed whether or not anything was planted in his house. she's given him another bly. >> i think the government agreed to pardon that because they had a hard time, the vendor that was going to put all these documents online, and the reason these vendors would want to engage with business with donald trump, they didn't want to sign a contract with him. i'm sure it's because they knew they wouldn't b

ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas also tried to overturn biden's 2021 in wisconsin. she has yet to face any accountability for her actions. i had a little message for her and for the 16 committee this week on my peacock show. >> consider everything we already knew about the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. in march, we learn from the washington post ginni thomas exchange multiple text messages in communications with trump then chief of staff, mark meadows. in messages obtained by the post, thomas promoted conspiracy theories and advise how donald trump could hold on to power. in one, she wrote quote, do not concede. it takes time for the army who was gathering for his back. weeks later, we learned from the post that was not just mark meadows that she reached out to. but 29 arizona lawmakers. in emails, the paper obtained, she urged the state legislature to set aside the slate of electors chosen by the voters and instead, she was there elm trump electors. writing please take action to ensure that a clean slate of electors is chosen from our st

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ginni thomas, the wife of clarence thomas, supreme court justice thomas did sit before the january 6th committee yesterday continuing to make claims that the 2020 election was stolen. we'll have more when we come right back on "morning joe." moe right back on "morning joe." shingles. some describe it as an intense burning sensation or an unbearable itch. this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. it could make your workday feel impossible. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. when your v-neck looks more like a u-neck, that's when you know, it's half-washed. downy has 7 benefits that condition and smooth fibers so clothes look newer, longer. feel the difference with downy. my active psoriatic arthritis can slow me down. so clothes look newer, longer. now, skyrizi helps me get going by treating my skin and joints. along with significantly clearer skin, skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year afte

thomas and alito dissented. they refused to hear the texas lawsuits and alito and thomas were the only two that felt the court should have taken up the case. what kind of stakes in terms of the reputation and integrity and perception of a court that dropped 20 points in the polling in terms of public trusting credibility, what is the writing on this? >> that's probably why. he should have recused himself. >> from all three. it does point to the fact that there is an ethics problem on the supreme court. the we had norms about supreme court justices supposed to declare conflict of interest. there is no law that says they have. to and it's been an exception. and a drag on the court. i have a slightly different take on ginni thomas which bothers me and disturbs me when i look at those e-mails. it's about a sickness in the heart of the republic. this is an educated woman, a woman who campaigned against cults in the 70s and 80s that lives in the heart of washington, d.c., where she sees how the government works and, y

people like ginni thomas from launching another coup. the bill introduced by california democrat zoe lofgren and wyoming republican liz cheney would reform the electoral count act by clarifying ambiguous language which trump and his allies exploited. the bill makes crystal clear that despite what trump might say, the vice president does not have the power to reject the will of the people. the senate is working on its own version. now, tellingly, 203 republicans, the majority of their house caucus, rejected the legislation. in so doing, they refused to put a stop to any future january 6th. a violent state on american democracy. officer eugene goodman, an army veteran seen here luring rioters away from the senate chambers, likely saving lawmakers' lives in the process, testified on wednesday at the trial of one of the men who led the mob that he faced down. what he told jurors and what republicans want to ignore, is that what happened on that day was purely medieval, and this afternoon, the secret service agent who was the january 6th site

and then another article is posted that very briefly disclosed lia thomas was formally will thomas and swim on the men's side for three years and then back to the other information of the article, so i'm sitting there, and honestly i was like relieved, because i was like oh, awesome, this isn't a threat to me anymore because they will be able t to to swim,o great, i'm back in my top contending spot, perfect. >> tucker: you are one of the fastest plumbers in the country? >> yeah come in at 200 freestyle. >> tucker: in your event. >> i think at the time i was about third or fourth ranked in the nation, so -- >> tucker: so how fast was his time i'm a a slash lia thomas' time compared to yours? >> at least a second that i have faster. >> tucker: wow. >> and that was the time i think they swam at a dual meet, which is -- if you know swimming -- really rare. it was kind of dislike who, how -- who is this person? i was just like kind of -- but when i found out lia was formerly well, i was thrilled, because i was like okay, the ncaa would never let this happen to where we have someone who swim

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so ginni thomas just one piece of that. as they move forward, we know there's not going to be witnesses on next week's hearing, so ginni thomas is likely to be part of that story but not the central focus. >> there's still so much information for the committee to gather, ali, thank you. >>> this morning markets are still reacting to the federal reserve's move to hike interest rates for the fifth time this month. we'll show you the dow. it's been down over the course of the day, now down just shy of 100 points following yesterday's steep day of losses. the latest hike, three-quarters of a point, is part of the fed's aggressive push to stabilize inflation. fed chair jerome powell signaling that there will likely be more hikes to come. this morning a sign of the global pinch. the bank of england is raising interest rates in the uk and saying that it believes the uk's economy is already in recession. i want to bring in nbc news business and data reporter brian chung. brian, to you first. we expected this rate. he telegraphed it

. >> jeanne thomas is the wife of clarence thomas. the supreme court justice. and yes, news just broke this afternoon that she has agreed to an interview with the january 6th committee. what do you think will come of that? you know, it's it's a little outrageous to think that the spouse. >> supreme court justice question was hearing some of these cases was actively involved with the east with the stop, the steal campaign trying to use her position as the spouse of a supreme court justice try to convince legislators in number in 8 in numerous states, not just arizona, wisconsin, as well and possibly others find out to try and get them to overturn the election to engage and unconstitutional behavior to do it. but i think, though, from a bigger perspective, does this mean that clarence thomas has to recuse himself from any case involving, you know, donald trump going forward. and i think this is going to be a very important issue judge roberts is going to have justice. chief justice john roberts is going to do it because it is almost impossible to think situation

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there have been evidence that i believe your committee has and covered that ginni thomas and thomas were in touch about eastman's plan to essentially -- he was the mastermind behind the mike pence coup idea. >> exactly. the theory that they proposed, and we know they were communicating during this time, in addition to the text messages that you show that she was communicating to the white house chief of staff, she's communicating to john eastman, a law professor, this is the same individual who a federal judge in california said, with president, more likely than not, committed federal crimes. that individual came up with this theory that the vice president could set aside electors, with -- four more time. none of that is grounded in our laws. by the way, chris, we should take a minute to acknowledge that the sunni and zoloft authored a change to those laws. we ensure that this can never happen again from a legislative perspective. ginni thomas was in close coordination and in touch with john eastman at that time. we think it's a relevant time period, and we plan to ask questions about it

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>> thomas: yeah, it's my son. >> cps agent 2: is he here? we need to check on his well-being. >> ridge: why? he's fine. >> cps agent: that's what we're here to determine. >> thomas: did someone file a complaint? [ music fades ] >> brooke: it's better to talk here. i'm not comfortable discussing this at the office. >> liam: yeah, i mean, it's not exactly a secret that you're unhappy about douglas staying with thomas. >> hope: i have been very careful not to escalate things. >> liam: yeah, okay, but here's the thing. if your mom is right, and is seeing this... change in thomas for the worst,

as far as thomas goes, he gets to decide whether to recuse himself. those are the rules, and he won't. what i am interested in is ginni thomas's testimony, is a prelude to her appearing before a grand jury. she is up to her neck in these fake electors conspiracy. the department of justice is looking at a rico case, which means, they are looking at conspiracy to commit to vote fraud, and fake electors which is, by the way, a term coined by a trump lawyer, in an email. they are the one who wants to call them fake electors. she is very involved with the fake electors, brad. these people are going to, quite possibly, go to jail over that massive vote fraud, that fake electors entails. i hope ginni thomas is one of them. >> let me pivot with the three of you, with the conversation or, another topic for the conversation. attorney general, laetitia james lawsuit against trump, is children, and his businesses, allegedly, for fraud. many of trump's legal issues, they haven't really stuck. i've started with you, jonathan. business one feel different? >> i think

ginni thomas -- >> virginia lamp thomas. >> what do you think about that? do you think this adds fuel to the fire of those saying if there's anything that comes up regarding january 6 clarence thomas would need to recuse? >> i think we need to investigate that. i don't think we've made the connection yet, but i think we need to look at that. that's important. it's not there yet for me. >> yeah, look, i think since clarence thomas first became a figure in washington democrats have been desperate to discredit him and to call his ethics into question for any number of reasons. i think they've always failed. a lot of people have spouses that have ideas that they probably don't agree with, it doesn't make clarence thomas a bad person and doesn't mean he has done a thing wrong. i want to be clear, i think what ginni thomas was asking these people to do was wrong, but a lot of people during that time were having a lot of bad ideas. it absolutely doesn't mean clarence thomas has done anything untoward at all but the impulse of liberals is to go after clarence thoma

, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas and her roles to overturn the election. joining us now is white house correspondent ali mctally, and they have emails from ginni thomas to other persons. >> and yes, it is why they asked her to come in voluntarily to come in to speak to them, and so we have been asked over the course of the months when she is going to be coming in, and chairman thomas said she had a legitimate excuse for not coming in, and now they have reached an excuse to come in to talk to them in the coming week, and the emails that they have pertain to efforts to overturn the election results and conversations with john eastman of the trump administration and the architecture of the course of the course of the investigation that they want to talk to her, and finally the opportunity as it comes that they are about to be back in the public spotlight and just about in under a week to do the public hearing, and it is information that we have not heard or seen, and that the threats that are leading to the violence that day are still current and real in this

thomas: thank you. and then liza, i wanted to accept your invitation for talking about congressional solutions a bit during the q&a. i wonder if you could expand on those a bit and also specifically speak to the extent you can, how do you convince people with political concerns or the sort of risk adverseness that you might expect to run any risk of national security concerns? and what sort of elevator pitch to the congressperson who thinks the last thing i want to do is pass any law that has a chance of letting the terrorists get away with something? elizabeth: i just want to point out, first of all, the litigation we're talking about is litigation that has been bubbling up for about 20 years and has to do with government programs that are basically no longer in place and has to do with terrorists who are no longer in place. and so the notion that actually hearing these cases through and having some kind of accountability for these abuses that happened 20 years is going to harm our national security to

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ginny thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, meeting with the january 6th committee. what she told them about the 2020 election. the fda approved a drug for a l s despite questions about i ng du know 2020 tonight on abc? we're back with the developing story from texas. two brothers are being held without bond after two migrants were shot and one was killed near el paso, mike and mark sheppard allegedly fired at four migrants at the side of a road late tuesday. a man was killed. a woman was wounded. mike shepherd was awarded at a detention center. he was fired after the shooting . the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, has appeared before the january 6th committee behind closed doors. ginny thomas has been under scrutiny for her efforts to help overturn the 2020 election, including urging state lawmakers to reject the results. the committee says thomas told them she still believes the election was stolen. but thomas denies having any involvement with the capital riot. this week's january 6th hearing was postponed because of the hurricane, but as a b cs, jo