and allen weisselberg for the sole beneficiary of mr. donald trump. each statement is virtually -- personally certified as accurate by mr. trump or one of his trustees as part of the loan process with the intent that the information in this statement would be relied upon by banks and insurers. mr. trump and mr. weisselberg would be to approve and review of final statement every year. mr. trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase, it is our weisselberg and others carried out year after year and there fraudulent preparation of statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both the men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, it evoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he come up mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment village and refused to answer. over the cours

weisselberg would meet to review and approve the final statement every year. mr. trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase, a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of the statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump, again, invoked his first amendment privilege and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation, we found that mr. trump, his children, the trump organization created and used more than 200 false and misleading asset valuations on a statement of financial condition over that ten-year period. they issued statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles in the united states de

weisselberg would meet to review and approve the final statements every year. mr. trumped made known through mr. weisselberg, he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase, a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparations of the statements. when asked about these meetings under oath, as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination, and refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. tr trump, continuing to review the statements after becoming president from the united states in 2019, again invoked his fifth amendment privilege, and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation, we found that mr. trump, his children, the trump organization created and used more than 200 false and misleading asset valuations on a statement of financial condition over that ten-year period. they issued statements that were in clear violation of general accounting principles in the united states, despeed representing the s

weisselberg would meet to review and approve the final statement every year. mr. trump made known, through allen weisselberg, that he wanted his network reflected on the statements to increase. a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath, as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump, and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment privilege, and refused to answer. >> they pled the fifth, but this is a civil case. >> yes, so the pleading the fifth, it may be invoked if you think the answer could expose to you criminal prosecution in any venues, so the southern district of new york or the manhattan district attorney's office, you can invoke your fifth amendment right. but what's different in those cases

in the statement, weisselberg would meet to approve the final statement every year mr. trump made known, through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase a desire mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year in their fraudulent preparation of the statements. and when asked about these meetings under oath as part of our deposition, both men, mr. trump and mr. weisselberg, invoked their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination and they refused to answer. when asked under oath if he, mr. trump, continued to review and approve the statements after becoming president of the united states in 2017, mr. trump again invoked his fifth amendment privilege and refused to answer. over the course of our investigation we found that mr. trump, his children, the trump organization used over 200 false allegations over that ten year period the issued statements that were in clear violation of general accepted principles -- general accounting principles in the united states despite representing these statements were prepar

mister weisselberg conceded. that using the false square footage in properly inflated the value of the apartment almost 3 fold. mister weisselberg admitted that this amounted to a overstatement of give or take 200 million dollars. misrepresenting the size of the apartment was only one of the many ways that mister trump intentionally miss value. his acid for the purposes of increasing his net worth. and inducing banks to offer more favorable terms. mister trump also read to routinely ignored legal restrictions on development rights. and marketability on properties that would significantly decrease property values. for example. park avenue in new york. this building contains both commercial. and residential space. the unsold residential condo units owned by mister trump and the trump organization represent the lion's share the reported value for this property. mister trump and his children intentionally ignored legal restrictions on some of the units that would have had that would have drastically changed the valua

weisselberg and others carried out year after year. in their fraudulent preparation of statements. >> james also went out of her way to mention the investigation was predicated on congressional testimony from trump's one-time lawyer michael cohen. >> i will remind everyone that this investigation only started after michael cohen, the former lawyer testified before congress and shed light on this misconduct. >> you might recall that cohen disclosed trump's financial dealings to congress under questioning from democrats on the house oversight committee. >> did the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenues? >> yes. >> did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows that the president did this? >> allen weisselberg, ron liebermann and matthew calamari. >> where would the committee find more information on this? do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes, you would find at the trump work. >> michael cohen will j

weisselberg now convicted. here's what else she said. >> mr. trump and mr. weisselberg would meet to review and approve the final statement every year. mr. trump made known through allen weisselberg that he wanted his net worth reflected on the statements to increase. mr. weisselberg and others carried out year after year. >> does that match your experience? >> yes. and i discussed it with them at length and i provided them documentation, including the personal financial statements. that was obviously -- what it did was it gave them the ability to take the documents i provided, not just to them, but to all the various congressional committees, the house oversight committee that it was posted live on, and what they did is they track it back. for example, the craziness about his triplex apartment. 30,000 square feet, highest price ever attained. in fact, the whole building is not worth that amount of money, and it's never seen that amount of money. they did it with seven springs, mar-a-lago, virtually every single property, including his golf courses. so that'

. >> weisselberg was mentioned here. something that simple really touched off something this big or what feels this big. >> yeah, it's a great question. because the question was under oath. they had given multiple responses. he had been playing defense for trump. but then he also did some jail time. so that question and that pattern is really the predicate for much of this. so i think what you see with letitia james is saying they went deliberately. they went at times slowly, folks ask why does it take so long. she afforded donald trump all his rights. he invoked the right of the fifth amendment not to incriminate himself. he was held in contempt civilly and paying fines for that. so she said, hey, if you have a side of the story to tell, if you disagree with what we just heard there from cohen under oath and the other evidence, let's hear it. for example, someone might say they repeatedly misled by their staff or aids, but they didn't mean to do it this. or say looking back at this, i should have done it differently. th

this >> allen weisselberg, ron b. bellman, and matthew calamari. >> and where we did the committee find more information on? this do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes, and you'll find it at the trump org. >> michael cohen will join me onset right here in just a moment to discuss what he witnessed at the trump organization. you might have heard there, he mentioned a guy named allen weisselberg, longtime chief financial officer. you may remember the just last month, that individual that you see there, pleaded guilty to financial fraud as a part of a separate investigation by the manhattan district attorney's office. that same office issued a statement today announcing its investigation into the trump organization's ongoing. new york attorney general james also says she is sharing information with the irs, and the southern district of new york, which is where federal prosecutors could conceivably bring criminal charges if deemed appropriate. to be ve

that is allen weisselberg has settled and that case is going forward. that will happen before we see any resolution in attorney general's case, unless there's a quick settlement. it doesn't look like that's going to happen. that's what we're going to be talking about for a while. i have to say, one of the things that just struck me, we don't know where it's going to land, but $250 million is a lot of money for penalties that she's seeking. that in itself -- that's a tax. you can't deduct that from your taxes. we don't know if this goes to a judge and there's -- it ends up in a courtroom where there's going to end up. that's a large number. that's going to include interest. that's got to be weighing on them as well. >> chuck, what about these referrals to the irs, the referrals to the manhattan d.a.? does that proceed quickly? this is just handing them her evidence and then they have to start all over again? some of these are parallel. >> sure. i don't know they have to start all over again. a number of these organizations had presumably their own invest

allen weisselberg over the last few years. >> jeff mccony is an assistant cont controller. if we were going to put this into perspective, donald trump is the president of the bank. and then you have the branch manager, allen weisselberg, jeff mcconney would be the teller. whatever you had first went to allen, but it would have to be signed off by donald in order for this thing to become effective. so that's why when i always say that donald knew everything about everything going on at the trump organization. >> how about his kids? because one of the things that the new york attorney general said was that they were basically involved. let me read it to you. as executive vice presidents of the trump organization, donald trump jr., ivanka trump and eric trump knew and participated in the scheme. the three children were intimately involved in the operation of the trump organization's business. do you know what that means, that they knowingly participated? >> so, again, it's a small family company. this is not, you know, ibm or google or meta. this is the trump organization. it'

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and weisselberg confirms, give or take. so, the now-convicted felon, who was in charge of the money at trump org, admits the change here, what james says is fraud, was on the order of $200 million on just that one asset. and again, let's be clear. if mr. weisselberg or these trump officials were involved in this for only one asset, you wouldn't have a case, and you certainly wouldn't have 200 pages. what you have here, at least according to letitia james's office and investigation, is a pattern and a practice of a criminal organization. that's not my job to be judge and jury here. as i've emphasized to you, there are some things that could also go in trump's favor, especially at the criminal level that i mentioned with the d.a., and his defenses will come out and will cover them. but right now, as an opening shot at a new case that wants to run him out of business in new york, well, this is a two by four. how do we make sense of it? there's a lot of numbers that are hard to understand. we have one of the reporters at the ce

we say weisselberg pled guilty, he stated that the investigation into trump is still ongoing. so letitia james laid out the facts and is moving the ball into your court. what are you going to do, u.s. attorney for the southern district, what are you going to do mr. alvin bragg, i've laid it out for you. you make the decision. >> what do we know about the status of the d.a. investigation? >> reporter: well, the manhattan d.a., alvin bragg, recently reiterated that investigation is ongoing. you'll remember this investigation was going kind of in lock-step with the zcivil investigation. when bragg took office in january, he slowed it down because he didn't believe they had enough proof that trump had criminal intent and was intentionally violating the law when these assets were inflated. they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt as compared to a civil lawsuit where the burden of proof is much lower. so they don't have an insider. there's not a cooperator. there's not someone who is explaining how this happened and the steps that various people had taken. so that was a hindranc

weisselberg admitted that this amounted to an overstatement of give or take $200 million. >> now in a statement today the trump organization said this represents the culmination of nearly three years of persistent targeted unethical political harassment by the attorney general. shep >> eamon javers amidst the hecklers outside the trump tower. >> a reporter asked if she was willing to settle out. she said she's already rejected a previous offer but added the doors are always open. carol lambs now. she is a former u.s. attorney for the southern district of california carol, thank you she didn't rule out a settlement i mean, how much leverage does letitia james have now to get a deal she would agree to? >> she has a lot of leverage right now. i mean, the complaint, as you noted, was over 200 pages long and it lays out an extraordinary number of misstatements and misrepresentations that the trump organization's son made to lending institutions, insurance companies and tax authorities over the course of a 10-year period so when you have that many allegations contained within one complaint,

. >> have you heard from anybody inside the trump camp, allen weisselberg, especially since you got out of jail? >> nothing. >> nothing? no attacks, no phone call? >> nothing. >> the overinflation of assets was astounding to me, michael. when you look at inflating the value of trump park avenue, right? inflating it up to $130 million in real value of that being 84.5 million. mar-a-lago, 739 million. the real value, 75 million. -- says that he didn't necessarily believe it was 75. he believes is much more than that, but certainly less than 739. trump -- 291 million was inflated lu. 56 million. a lot of folks inflate the value of their assets, maybe about $100,000 or so if you are looking to get a loan. this is an egregious inflation of assets. was there ever a moment in which you said, donald, what are we doing here? we are breaking the law. how did you continue to do this and support this, really? >> so, i was tasked along allen weisselberg and i've gone through this extensively with both the da and the ag, as well as members of congress. seven different congressional committees. donald

>> allen weisselberg. >> do we need to review his tax returns and financial statements? >> yes. you would find it at the trump org. >> that prompted the new york attorney general's office to fire off a number of subpoenas, including to the trump organization and some of the lenders. they went on to interview more than 60 people, including the former president and his three adult children. the former president and his son eric trump declined to answer questions hundreds of times. but this is what brought us all to this moment today, the culmination of this investigation that the new york attorney general credited michael cohen with. >> there's also this parallel criminal investigation being conducted by the district attorney of manhattan. this is separate and distinct. what do we know about that? >> right. this investigation by the manhattan district attorney's office is parallel in nature. involves a lot of the same sorts of potential allegations. in a criminal case, the burden of proof is much higher than in a civil case. the manhattan d.a. initially slowed down this investigat

i don't think weisselberg will be the one who committed the most crimes at end of the day. i think these examples go to recent times that tish james isolated as well so there's a long pattern. i don't think it is right to just point to the 2010 stuff because she brings it up pretty close to the present here. >> thank you. you can get more of these reports from neil at msnbc.com/openingarguments. we turn to sam number who went through the legal process in the muller probe. welcome back, sam. >> thank you for having me on. congratulations on five years. >> thank you, sam. we did hit five years. we have drawn on a lot of different people, yourself included over those years, and that's why i want to come back to you. specifically on the trump org case, we go to people who have been involved or actually have been at the scene and you know those who don't. i am curious when you hear it said it was practice for the trump org to mislead, misvalue or outright lie about assets, does it strike you as credible or possible to fit with your experience or not? >> i don't have the experien

and the former trump organization cfo, allen weisselberg, and the controller, jeffrey mccartney. maryam: donald trump said the move is a political witchhunt and called her a racist and a fraud. here we are in new york with more on those allegations. >> i'm standing right outside of trump ter in new york, and this is part of the allegations, because the new york state attorney general says the former president made 200 false statements about the value of his assets, inflating them, and thated to them netting $250 million. she referred to the famous book "the art of the deal," saying, claiming money you don't have is not the art of the deal, it is the part of the steel. this -- the steal. this was set at being 30,000 square feet, when it's under 11,000. the property was valued at $327 million. no apartment in new york has sold as much. that was one example of what she says is a long set of evidence she has against the former president. this is a very serious legal matter because, while it is a civil case, what she is seeking from the courts is to remove president trump and his kids

allen weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of the trump organization, who had to plead guilty earlier this year to commit all charges, is set to testify in that case. we should expect to see interesting information coming out about potential fraud coming from his testimony. that too is yet another sentence where mr. trump is facing legal jeopardy. don't forget he also is facing these state investigation in georgia over the calls to brad raffensperger and the attempt to "find votes" in georgia. there is the justice department's january 6 inquiry, which is ongoing. the house of representatives is conducting a parallel investigation into mr. trump's role in inciting the insurrection. host: at what point do the republicans turn around and say there are too many legal cases here, there is too much smoke, go away, deal with all of this and stop trying to be the senior most famous republican on the planet, it is not helping us? >> that is a great question. there is a significant number of republicans that would prefer that someone else runs in 2024. for a number of reasons, one is th

i mean, remember that allen weisselberg, who was trump's cfo, has already plead guilty to these -- to these offenses. 15 different felonies he plead to. 15 felonies. and somehow i don't think that allen weisselberg is the one who committed the most crimes here. >> so, a former prosecutor described the evidence that she's marshalled to me as being presented in, quote, mind-numbing detail and the conduct spans ten years and the pattern that we've been talking about, overevaluations which is kind of undeniable. and i want to turn to what the criminal investigation would look like. the document production and what is in her complaint, i don't see michael cohen's name anywhere, i mean, clearly, if he was the match that started this, what has been filled out is, you know, hundreds of pages now of evidence based on documents that are indisputable. >> already on the public docket are ten years of the former president's personal financial statements or at least his presentation of his wealth. and when you start to go through and i'm there with susanne, it's going to be a day or two of read ing

donald trump, three of his children, the trump organization and two of his executives including allen weisselberg, in there filing the attorney general's office laying out decades of examples they say showed trump and his business overvaluing real estate holdings and other assets allegedly deceiving lenders and insurance brokers with misleading financial statements. >> examples like former president trump's own an apartment in trump tower having been inflated in size, mar-a-lago also having its valuation inflated. >> singh trump able take out loans based among other things on his allegedly overblown net worth, something she says average americans cannot do. >> it is a tale of two justice systems. one for everyday working people. one for the elite. reporter: trump denies any wrongdoing, his attorneys called the suit politically motivated and abuse of authority. the attorney general is asking the court for a $200 million judgment and barring any of the tribes from running a company in the state of new york. saying no when including a former president is above the law. james did say she made crimina

and i was, as i had stated, i had worked with allen weisselberg, which i testified to, not only to the attorney general, the district attorney and to seven different congressional committees, you know, along with other law enforcement agencies. the goal was to appease donald. each and every year he wanted to be richer on the forbes list. it's extremely important to him. so he'd say i'm worth $6 billion. within a second -- you know, in fact i'm really worth $7.5. you know what, i'm richer than that. the more i think about it, i'm worth 10. so figure out how to make the personal financial statement from the year before $10 billion. >> what do you think he's worth? >> up 1, 2, at best. >> what do you think -- do you have any information that could help the attorneys? >> oh, i've given everything. i've gechb tiven thousands of documents. >> do you think they used your information? >> according to tish james, absolutely. i gave personal financial statements. the problem and why trump gets away with what he does is because there's only a handful of people within the inner circle. everybody e

allen weisselberg, the chief financial officer for many years, his right-hand man, when it came to finance, may not be charging trump directly but the trump organization, that's him that's president trump. it was a family run organization and it was all president trump. that is just one example, the documents, to january 6th, congress, so many things -- we are going to hear, perhaps, from laetitia james, the new york state attorney general, about her investigation into some of the business practices. we are looking for to hearing that. he has so many issues on the plate right now that he has a battery of lawyers, ever-changing, of course, cast of characters, some of them leave out of their own exposure or have been paid or what have you. and it is all consuming. it is the war that he is waging right now. >> it's like peter's reading my mind, joyce white vance. new york attorney general tish james. she is holding, tomorrow morning, what is being described as a major news conference. last week, the new york times reported that james could potentially sue trump -- obviously, we don't know wha

something his co-defendant, allen weisselberg and others carried out year over year. >>> let's bring in national security attorney bradley moss to talk about this. bradley, let's start with the justice department, a federal appeals court ruling the doj could continue their review of the classified documents seize in the mar-a-lago search. two of the three judges were appointed by trump, i think that's worth mentioning here. this refute's both trump's lawyers arguments but the lower court judge, eileen cannon and what she ruled. >> this was the 11th circuit bringing things back to reality. this is where the case law actually is in this type of situation. that for a civil plaintiff to be bringing this action, trying to regain access to documents that had classification markings on them and now in the custody of the fbi in a criminal probe, there's no basis, no standing, as the 11th circuit noted, no possessory interest to those documents in the absence of evidence of declassification. even that was a potential red herring in the sense that the search warrant wasn't about classified inf

what we've seen in the last few weeks, with the weisselberg plea, and the longtime chief financial officer, is the upcoming trial of a two trump organization, and now, the charge of steve bannon is that there is a lot going on in manhattan. in looking at the indictment that was filed, it is a rock crusher. it lays out, specifically, how the fraud worked. this is a garden-variety fraud, and a perfect case for a manhattan district attorney prosecutor, where they go, and lay out, exactly, what steve bannon, and his conspirators, sent to the public, that all of the money that was raised, all of it, 100%, would go to building the wall. and, instead, there are financial records and, explicit texts with steve bannon, talking about how they will funnel money, the proceeds, to various people, including the president to, repeatedly, was saying, the president of the organization, saying, he wasn't going to profit at all. so, it is hard to see any defense here. it is worth pointing out, steve bannon, if convicted, will face time here, as well for his conviction in the sea, and those can run consecutiv

as i have stated, i had worked with allen weisselberg on these documents which i testified to not only the attorney general, the district attorney, and to seven different congressional committees along with different law enforcement agencies, the goal was to appease donald. each and every year he wanted to be richer on the forms list. it is extremely important to him. so what he would do is say i am worth six billion, then within a second, in fact, i am worth seven and a half. you know what? i am actually even richer than that the more i think about it, i am worth ten! so figure out how to make the personal financial statement from the year before ten billion dollars. >> what do you think he is worth? >> one, two at best. >> one, two at best. do you have any information that could help the attorney general? >> i have given everything. i have given thousands of documents. >> you think that they used or your information? -- >> absolutely. i gave them the personal financial statements of several years, i had explained to them -- you know, the problem with why trump gets away with what he

basically trump, weisselberg, jeff mcconney, and trump's three children, all the decision-making went through that group and really came from trump down to that other level and then out to the world. a very small company at the very top. >> you know, bill barr is going to bill barr. let me go back to you, tristan. people need to understand that this is not -- explain, because you did work in this office, not contemporaneously with tish james, but you worked there. why is this civil? and does this office have the capability of handling a criminal case of this nature? why is it cordoned off as civil? >> the statute they brought it under is a stature civil fraud statute. generally speaking the ag's office, most of their prosecutions are civil. generally speaking, most criminal matters are brought at the county d.a. level, and this is true not just in new york, but pretty much every state i know of. the ag's office does have a criminal unit. they do do white-collar crime and public corruption cases. they are, i think, you know, in a vacuum they are able to bring these criminal cases. i th

the first time was -- when weisselberg pled guilty, he pleaded guilty to committing a federal offense. not just a state offense. and the charge there was replete with saying the crimes they had charged were not just state crimes, they were federal crimes. i was struck again today when the new york attorney general said there are also federal crimes here. and to me, the real issue is we know the irs, and the federal level, has supposedly had an open case with regard to donald trump and or the trump organization, but it is not clear that that is going anywhere. and it is remarkable to me that you have the two highest new york prosecutors making that sort of point over and over again. and i think that the reference to the southern district is a way to potentially goose that investigation into action. and then the final thing is if you notice, she did not have to say, letitia james did not have to say they're making a referral to the manhattan district attorney's office for criminal investigations. and i think that still maybe the sleeper to keep an eye on. and i think the fact that she d

condition, his financial worth statement, and that that information was docked up with approvals allen weisselberg or the cfo of the company was involved in that, and they weren't, and the attorney general has come back in the complaint and i will just read a little bit because it really captures where he potentially could get in trouble. because of that misrepresentation and the misrepresentation will get the trump organization a bitter premium they said in this case the veracity of the rest of the information disclosed by the trump organization, that would be the zurich, during the renewal would have called into serious questions whether xerox should continue its insurance relationship with the trump organization, or review a must favorable terms. that's where you get into trouble, you are going to financial institutions, and you are making of these sort of claims, you are withholding information in some cases. you are lying. the complaint, i was reading it, over, and over, and over different examples. whether it is banks, insurance companies, approvals to the irs, it goes on and on. >> on and o

over a ten-year period over 200 valuation fraudulent-based statement and the benefit of having allen weisselberg providing testimony and the most important aspect unlike a criminal prosecution where the burden on the government is beyond a reasonable doubt talking about the civil context. one decision to invoke the fifth amendment saying, listen, i won't say anything to build your case, government or incriminate myself. it's important here because in the civil context that can be used against you unlike in a criminal prosecution. so the fact they took the fifth amendment about these issues is going to be problematic down the road but, of course, as was pointed out, she has campaigned in part on the idea of trying to prosecute or to sue donald trump and so there may be this air of a political axe to grind but it cannot overwhelm and fatally undermine if there is evidence to support any of these allegations against this company and those who have been a part of it. >> cara, you were in the room when the attorney general, letitia james, announced she is suing the former president of the united stat

allen weisselberg, the former chief financial officer for the trump company recently pleaded guilty to 15 felonies and he has agreed to cooperate with the prosecution. >> the department of justice got the green light to continue the investigation into the documents seized from trump's home at mar-a-lago. federal prosecutors were told to stand down and stop looking at the seized documents until a court appointed special master completed his review of those documents. the government and argued that a ruling from a judge in florida impeded their investigation and national security concerns. trump said that his team and he had the classified the documents before leaving the white house. but a federal appeals court ruled it could find no personal interest for trump. in documents marked classified and no evidence in the record that he had declassified them as president. >> well, republicans are criticizing the federal reserve's decision to raise interest rates in an effort to reduce inflation. gop lawmakers say the way to bring down inflation is to change the biden administration policies. o

., ivanka, eric, weisselberg and the rest of them. this will put an end to the entire company. >> you think that? >> i believe so. >> martha: we'll see what lara trump has to say about that in moments. first to david lee miller with the very latest this afternoon from new york. hi, david lead. >> the former president says the civil lawsuit accusing him of inflating property value to get low interest loans has no merit and is a political vendetta by letitia james. in an interview with sean hannity, trump says he was targeted by james during her first run for attorney general. >> she campaigned on it four years ago. a vicious campaign. she talked about trump and we're going to indict him, we're going to get him. >> in his interview, trump said he was under the impression the ag wanted to settle but trump feared doing so would damage his reputation. he said agreeing to pay a small fine might make him look guilty. while the lawsuit claims his financial statements show things were overinflated, the bank should have done something. >> the d

you know that allen weisselberg has already pled guilty, but the trump organization itself starts the criminal trial on october 24th here in new york. >> we have the january 6th committee, the classified documents case, and the civil case, a lot to get to, ladies, thank you for keeping it all straight for us. i appreciate it. >>> and vladimir putin needs xi jingping, but does xi jingping want to take that risk? what we learned from their face to face. first up though, what happens to the queen's estimated $28 million now that she's passed? y . we spent our whole pension but couldn't keep up. so my husband just stopped taking his medicine. and then he had a stroke. i can't get back what i lost, but thanks to aarp, a new law will protect seniors with a cap on their prescription costs. that could have changed everything for us. i'm just grateful that no one will have to face the terrible choices that we did it's the all-new subway series menu. twelve irresistible new subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! [school bells] when pain says,

alan weisselberg, the chief financial officer for the trump organization, pleaded guilty to 15 felonies. well over a dozen people from trump's inner circle have either been arrested, indicted or imprisoned and several others have hired criminal defense attorneys. >> jon karl, thanks. let's bring in daniel abrams and sara isgur. you look at these six cases, dan. let me begin with you. which is the most serious legal threat to donald trump right now? >> let's separate donald trump personally versus those closest to donald trump. if you were saying those close to donald trump, i would say the fake elector scheme that the feds have been investigating. >> part of the january 6th investigation? >> correct. for many people close to donald trump that could be the most perilous. for donald trump personally you have the document case now. something happened this week that i think changed the tenor of this. when you have the 11th circuit court of appeals with two trump appointees coming forward and not just rejecting donald trump's argument, but completely rebuking it, almost mocking the argument

weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of the trump company, recently pleaded guilty to 15 felonies. in fact, he's agreed to cooperate with the prosecution. the department of justice got the green light to continue the investigation into the documents seized. >> from trump's home at mar-a-lago. federal prosecutors were told to stand down and stop looking at the documents until a court appointed special master completed his review. the government had argued that ruling from a judge in florida impeded their investigation and national security concerns. trump and his team said that he had declassified the documents before leaving the white house. but a federal appeals court ruled it could not find any personal interest for trump and are classified and no evidence in the record that he had d classified them as president. >> also making national headlines. republicans are criticizing the federal reserve's decision to raise interest rates in their effort to try and reduce inflation. and the gop lawmakers say the way to bring down inflation is to change the biden administration's policies.

., ivanka, avg, weisselberg, the rest of them, it will put an end to it. >> you believe that. >> i believe so. >> and joining me the professor at new york school of law and former manhattan district attorney, and welcome to you both. appreciate you joining us. and by the way, it is the testimony that the attorney general cited, that sparked the initial investigation which i find fascinating. rebecca, when it comes to this lawsuit, it has to be proved fraud by a preponderance of evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt as she would have to in a criminal case. what do you make of it? >> well, think this is a really strong complaint. it's detailed. it's extensive. it looks like she is relying a great deal on documentary evidence, which is a god send for anybody who is trying to bring a case like this. you know, that said, there are some difficulties in this case. as we've known from the very beginning, which is that she'll still need to prove, even if it is by a preponderance of the evidence, that the organization, that the family members, tried to defeat, they had an intent to deceive and tha

not just him, it is, the kids, it is weisselberg who asked to cooperate. i think they will delay it. but country may look different when it comes to trial. this is not one he can skirt or bet on a change of administration. >> i have got to admit, it is wild to have you sitting there talking about the new york ags case. what you referred to as a potential sledgehammer. the bug is right under. you reminding us that on wednesday the 16 committee is going out and going to have another hearing. on top of that, there is a federal case, trump could face, for his handling of top secret documents this past week, you had him making news by claiming he declassified documents by simply thinking about it, of, course i want to get your take on that, specifically the challenge trump's claim then presents for his legal team in court. >> look, it is in coming from everywhere. i have an image of a goalie with ten pucks coming out of it. one of them is going to hit them. that the doj at mar-a-lago, the cleanest, of the quickest. they have got six or seven different lawsuits

, his children, donald trumer, ivanka trump and eric trump, and former trump organization cfo allen weisselberg and trump organization controllerjeffrey mcconney. nada tawfik is in new york. first of all, just explain to us what these charges actually relate to. i what these charges actually relate to. . , . ., , ., to. i am standing right outside of trump tower _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new _ to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new york, - to. i am standing right outside of trump tower in new york, and l to. i am standing right outside of. trump tower in new york, and this to. i am standing right outside of- trump tower in new york, and this is part of the allegations, because the new york state attorney general says former president trump made former l neck 200 false statement about the value of its assets, inflating them, and that led to them netting 250 million dollars. she referred to the famous book the art of the deal, saying it is the art of the steel. the triplex apartment here, it is claimed, t

and former trump 0rganization cfo allen weisselberg and trump 0rganization controllerjeffrey mcconney. mr.trump and the trump 0rganization repeatedly and persistently manipulated the value of assets to induce banks to lend money to the trump organization a more favorable terms than would otherwise have been available to the company. to pay lower taxes, to satisfy continuing loan agreements and to induce insurance companies to provide insurance coverage for higher limits and at lower premiums. his conduct was all in violation of executive law, section 6312, which gives the attorney general broad and special powers to go after persistent and repeated fraud and illegality. as part of demonstrating illegality under that section of law, 6312 we show that they violated several state criminal laws. including, falsifying business records, issuing false financial statements. insurance fraud. and engaging in a conspiracy to commit each of these state law violations. the new york stated attorney general there. for more on the story. the new york attorney general is accusing donald trump along wi

he treated allen weisselberg like he treated sean spicer. he told him to enlarge the square footage of an apartment? there are opinions, but there are no new facts. you can't create facts. he's creating new facts about the square footage of his properties and the wealth he has. and he's been lying. like he was with the crowd size and his health reports. now i think it is melting all around him. i think letitia james is moving. i think the 11th circuit down in florida is helping him move to actually study those documents. and i think, of course, doubling back, what's going on is that the house and merrick garland are going back to the original crime of september 6th. they're going back to what role he played in endangering the life of his own vice president. i think they'll look at that clearly and saying they're not there to hurt me, but they were there to hurt the vice president. eugene, the report we saw, the police officer with the capitol police, he was the guy defending people like mitt romney. the president was the one leading them on

>> allen weisselberg, rob leaner man and matthew calamari. >> and do you think that we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns to c ompare them? >> yes, and you would find it at the trump org. >> and those of us in the public learned from the first time in that exchange and provided key insight into the trump organization's pattern of shady business practices which brings us back to where we started. the metaphorical hurricane this week, a huge lawsuit for donald trump, donald trump jr., eric trump, ivanka trump from a trump extramarital affair to this. >> fraud and deception that was used by mr. trump and the trump organization for their own financial beneficial is astounding. inflating the values of assets by whatever means necessary to increase mr. trump's purported net worth. i will remind everyone that this investigation only started after michael cohen the former lawyer, his former lawyer, testified before congress a this high school -- misconduct. >> and joining us now is michael cohen. his new book is out next month. and i want to pull back the curtain abou

he did go forward with charges against allen weisselberg, and the trump organization. the trump organization will go on trial this fall. this, these issues and the same conduct that attorney general james outlined in great detail and her civil losses will be the subject of a criminal trial against the organization. a c>> you know, daniel, let's y donald trump wanted to fight this. could his kids take a different path and settle on their own? >> probably not in this case. i think it's all sort of wrapped up in the same conduct. i think in theory they could try to settle but in reality because they are also inextricably intertwined in the conduct, and they're obviously related, they will almost certainly stick together in whatever they do. but jonathan, the key issue here, and i think is important for u.s. understand. this is a civil case. it's not an indictment, it's a lawsuit. that has a lower burden of proof and it also allows for the senior executives and the principles of an organization to be held liable for the organizations misrepresentations. that cannot happen

., ivanka, eric, weisselberg, mcconney and the rest of them. this is going to put an end to the entire company. >> wow. strong words there from michael cohen, the ex-president's one-time lawyer, who witnessed the trump org's business dealings up close and personal from the inside for many years, predicting there last night how this will all end. that the 200-plus-page lawsuit that wii continuing to unpack from new york attorney tish james against the ex-president, his company, will be the president's ultimate downfall. and this time, although he's already trying, donald trump can't get away with throwing other people, even if they're his own children, under the bus. joining our coverage, joining harry and i, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning author, he's wrote several books, his most recent, "the big cheat: how donald trump fleeced america and enriched himself and his family." i think from your appearances and the things you've written, i first understood that these were not flukes or bugs. this was the main feature of trump's time in