rudy giuliani. rudy was the leaky face of the ex-president's attempt to overthrow the 2020 election. and now, according to testimony to the january 6th committee, we're learning he was visibly drunk and erratic on election night. of course rudy refuted that, tweeting, "i am disgusted and outraged at the outright lie. i refused all alcohol that evening. my favorite drink... diet pepsi." which is exactly what someone would say when they are completely hammered. and, thanks to his work with the former president, rudy's now in a mess of legal trouble. the january 6th committee has issued subpoenas seeking other conspirators' communications with him, he's a target of the criminal investigation into election interference in georgia, and, later this month, lawyers in washington will hold a hearing on stripping rudy giuliani of his d.c. law license. which is the least upsetting combination of the words "rudy giuliani" and "stripping." even worse for rudy, the head of that hearing turned down his request to

texts themselves from the oath keepers and proud boys to rudy giuliani. knowing what those extension numbers are and the doj and fbi are working together on this. knowing what those extension numbers are are very important. for the american public, they need to know that data and those types of things were happening on january 6. host: who placed those calls to the white house? guest: do not know. my guess is the committee is trying to figure out, there is something called a call manager and each person is assigned a phone number to a specific desk. also, cell. when you look and read the breach, the white house and a certain set of numbers are called root numbers, those numbers are connected to the white house. you can look at the root number's from one side of the records, but you cannot see what those white house numbers are versus what is provided. the records still exist in the system. there are technical challenges when you are not kneeling with a law enforcement type of investigation. host: denver riggleman, our guest until 10:00. if you want to ask

together with rudy giuliani. but it's after doing the same thing off in europe but so they are claiming a political contribution to bend the law but then they tried to prosecute their political opponents. but then congress moved out very. >> it is interesting because but that was the end of it they did not but they wanted to move impeachment first but then first to sit back and watch the show but i never thought he was in jeopardy. >> could thingss have gone differently or would it not have mattered? >> in the book you see it is religious 30 and then use that examples during covid so then talk about that religious liberty and during the shutdown and. >> a lot of the governors and mayors they would do this and were clearly treating religious activities like a class activity. but there is another comparable to be free of restrictions imposing draconian restrictions. church? at cannot be worse. you cannot treat religion worse in the civil liberties of the time it goes back to that speech from notre dame so the found

giuliani. who also wove a false narrative about smartmatic, an election technology company which is now suing giuliani, fox news and others. >> smartmatic is a company that was formed by three venezuelans who were very close to -- very close to the dictator chavez of venezuela. and it was formed in order to fix elections. that's the company that owns dominion. >> does smartmatic own dominion? >> no. we do have a relationship. we are competitors. >> were you associated with the late hugo chavez. >> absolutely not. >> do you use a venezuelan company software that's been used to steal election in other countries? >> absolutely not. anderson, i can cut all of this short. we were founded in toronto, which is where my family was from. and there's nothing to do with venezuela. >> can you flip votes in the computer system? can you add votes that did not exist? >> absolutely not. >> president trump first mentioned dominion in a tweet november 12th and recorded this video a few weeks later which was post

i covered rudy giuliani when he was a presidential candidate and a mayor. i covered, more to remove, bill clinton and barack 0bama when they were presidents. i covered governors in new york state. he's just simply someone who i've covered a lot and very intensely, you know, and he is someone who, like every person i cover, sometimes, you know, gets very angry at what i write. most people don't express it the way he does. but, i mean, trump really is more than that. i appreciate that you obviously have covered all the other candidates and figures that you mentioned, but you have yourself said that covering trump, "it's my curse and my salvation." so why did you say that, what do you mean? i was really talking... i was talking about work, i wasn't talking about trump. the way that i approach myjob is the curse and the salvation, which is that i throw all my energy into it. all right, but you have blown a great deal of energy into just covering trump. i mean, you've courted your sources around him very assiduously, to the extent that jonathan swan, white house

it's clear to any rational sane non-rudy giuliani person that his days are numbered in office and t let's remember the famous quote of bill barr when he was asked about michael flynn he did a slight shuffle. he's not going to be writing a history napley is trying to salvage any reputation ande avod being put in with rudy giuliani. the problem with bill barr's rehab tour i talk about that in bill barrey tells the story abot i don't know what happened behind closed doors but the problem is the article completely omits and we can't forget the months leading up to the election bill barr is one of the biggest cheerleaders for the election fraud conspiracy theory. he was one of the biggest slanders perpetrators amplifiers at the deadline back. i'll give you quickly didn't interview with npr where he talked about the massive threat of fraud and by the way i talked about shortly after downturn started tweeting everyday bill barr picks it up. he talks about the threat and wrote an article shortly after entitled we allow the attorney general to give false hoods on air. i quote and my favorite they

>> i think it's drchl and rudy giuliani. she's already said rudy giuliani is a target for the investigation, and baseshy she's publicly pointed the finger at donald trump. and the crimes she's investigating are basically about them. that includes pressuring officials, lying to state lawmakers about election fraud. that is actually their activity under investigation. there's a lot of evidence against them. >> okay, so when you say rudy giuliani, and i know that from people who have testified in that room and also donald j. trump, but amazing a fact that happened here. this often when you talk about trump comes down to the one crucial call he made to the secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. and flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, there's just -- it's a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. so what are we going to do here,

and there was a search warrant on rudy giuliani's home there was reporting the biden white house was kicked off because that was the first joint address of congresss but yet it's a big chunk of the news media was laid out and when i saw the story i said good that's how it should be the last thing doj should ever be doing is say we will do a big thing today with fact i was glad to see that's how it should be no communication so i am encouraged to make progress but we need policy change as well. >> so don't freak out i will just use your first name but i want to say a random user but to start if the ag decided to continue on how broad those responsibilities are perhaps to lose the cases at a legal strategy but thatt prosecutorial strategy quick. >> that's on a heard quite a bit. i don't think so. you have a duty as a prosecutor to pursue it vigorously is unethical to say i want to bring this case up so i can lose that. it's possible to get more definitive guidance because we have the district level may be with the court of appeals to have a more definitive and is where the line is this

there is a fascinating story about rudy giuliani taking the biggest dump in a private plane i have ever heard from trump. it's a book that covers everything, and honestly, i hope a lot of people read it before the next election comes because i think it gives a lot of much-needed insight. maggie, thank you so much for joining me on the show. >> thank you. >> trevor: appreciate you. [cheers and applause] "confidence man" is out now wherever you can get your books. maggie haberman. we will take a quick break. we'll be right back. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> trevor: that's our show for tonight. thank you so much for two and began before we go, please consider supporting the alejandre foundation. they are an organization that helps the latin community access mental health therapy services, so if you want to support them in this important work, please donate at the link below. until next time, stay safe out there and remember, if you can't see the characters on your tv screen, don't worry, they can't see you either. now here it is, your "moment of zen." [cheers and applause

it's like the rudy giuliani question. and i don't have a good answer for it either. >> not even slightly the same person. >> really interesting. unbelievable to think about. dr. jekyll mr. hyde, whenever you appeal to the base, that's what you're doing. that's a problem in general. but we'll see, that poor little girl, i don't mind people, it's a child we're talking about. yet again being used as a political pawn. >> backlash against the former president who kurdish -- criticized jewish americans for not being more appreciative of his moves on israel. let's look at why that's a problem, and how it all plays out into one big antisemitic trope next. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles with the latest technology. when my last customer discovered a crack in his car's windshield, he scheduled at safelite.com. safelite makes it easy. we're the experts at replacing your glass... ...and recalibrating your advanced safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. now that's a company i can trust. >> tech: don

there is a fascinating story about rudy giuliani taking the biggest dump in a private plane i have ever heard from trump. it's a book that covers everything, and honestly, i hope a lot of people read it before the next election comes because i think it gives a lot of much-needed insight. maggie, thank you so much for joining me on the show. >> thank you. >> trevor: appreciate you. [cheers and applause] "confidence man" is out now wherever you can get your books. maggie haberman. we will take a quick break. we'll be right back. [cheers and applause]

you left the meeting with rudy giuliani thinking what? >> that i wasn't happy. i said, okay, time-out. mr. giuliani, you said you were going to bring me some proof, names, et cetera, of all these people. did you bring me the proof? he looked at jenna ellis and said do we have the proof, and she said, yes, we do. do you have it with you? no, no. where is it? well, it might be back at the hotel room. and i said i asked you for the proof, you said you'd bring it, you're not bringing it. you're asking me to break my oath and make up something to pull electors and replace electors, which has never been done in the history of the united states. and i'm going to try that on my state. >> without bowers, giuliani found an ally willing to call the vote criminal, arizona state representative mark finchem. >> it's exceedingly hard for me to place a label on what we've heard other than racketeering, good old-fashioned mobster racketeering. >> four weeks after mr. trump's defeat, finchem held an unofficial hearing featuring giuliani. >> a conspiracy that was hatched by the cr

his clear to any rational saying non- non-non-rudy giuliani person that it is over. bill barr is certainly smart enough to see that and his days are numbered and let's remember a famous quote for bill barr when he's asked about michael flynn, the michael flynn case he said with a sort of sly chuckle history is written by the winners. by this point bill barr knows he's not a winner, he's not going to write in the history and ugly he's try to salvage any bit of repetition and avoid being sort of group in lumped in with the rudy giuliani, sidney powell, a pillow guy, you know, true loonies. the problem with bill barr is little in image rehab tour ir in this article in the atlantic is they talk about that and bill barr tells this heroic story extended, maybe, i don't know what happened behind closed doors. the problem is what bill barr completely and the article completely omits and we can't forget is that for months leading up to the election will barb's one of the biggest cheerleaders for the election fraud conspiracy theory. he was one of the biggest spreaders, perpet

with the exception of rudy giuliani, they said don't do it. even rudy giuliani admitted later that they did not have the evidence. they did not have evidence of fraud. they did not have evidence of irregularities. sufficient to change the outcome of the election. donald trump determined he would declare victory and set about trying to find the evidence, trying to find people who would fabricate the evidence. people will say, maybe there was fraud. another key point to remember is on election day and in the days after the election, there was no american, no american, who was better informed about the absence of fraud than donald trump. think about that. he had access to information because his justice department was investigating allegations of fraud, because his campaign was telling him, listen, if you combine all the allegations of fraud and all the allegations of irregularities together and you interpret them in a way that is most favorable to donald trump, that is not enough to change the outcome of the election. he knew that. he knew more

but i was angry because it lumped me in together with rudy giuliani. i'm free booting assignment he was up too. but what i was focused on was the evidence of crime. they came they were soliciting political contributions. they were trying to bend w the law, that is what politics are about prosecutors trying to bend the law to prosecute their political opponents. didn't think there was. then congress moved sharply to impeach him and overtook anything the department would be doing. it's really interesting, my read of the situation was they were so upset that i made the decision that there was no obstruction that was the end of it. they did not want me too act on the ukrainian thing. they wanted to move impeachment first so the same thing would not happen tol ukraine. the department is not a party in that. that back and watch the show. without the present is reallyfen jeopardy bring her r might have gone differently but the transcript would have been released earlier it wouldn't have mattered? >> i don't think it would've mattered. parks in the book you sa

>>> rudy giuliani conservative mr. giuliani's associates, mr mr. meadows. >> one of the big supporter servicer is outraged attempt to subvert american the makos low pressure and trump attorney joh eastman. >> the entire executive branch is headed by one guy. >> speaker 6: trump saw him on fox news and shortly after that he was in the oval office. fraudulent electors would just step one in eastman's plan whic he outlined in these memos and justified with false claims of, illegal actions by state and local election officials." step two in his plan would have to be executed by. mike pence on january 6, while presenting over the opening and counting of electoral balance. what you can do is you can say due to these disputes in the seven states we are going to send this back to the states an states would then be able to help donald trump when the election. >> it was a lie. in fact, on the covid-19, 2020, just four days before doctor eastman sent this memo, doctor eastman himself said this himself in an e-mail that they electors had no legal weight, conve

. >> there was a shadow going on with rudy giuliani seemed like everything was a little foggy and concerning. you can probably understand why they had concerns, right? >> well, brianna, i'll tell you, one of the things i did say in the book was i was very disappointed because president trump did not want to deal with the ukraine matter directly. ambassador volker and secretary perry came back from ukraine, very excited about having met zelenskyy. we thought they was a greater leader. we thought he was going to clean up corruption. we came back and met with trump and said we're excited about this guy, you should get him in here and meet him, period, end of story. president trump for whatever reason wants rudy giuliani working on this, which, to me, was highly inappropriate. >> you say in your book and this is a passage that's gotten a lot of attention. it was like staying at an all-inclusive, you're thrilled when you arrive, but things start to go downhill fast, and eventually, you start to wonder why you agreed to the deal in the first place. what is your biggest regret? and would you do it

the one allegation that was repeated by former mayor rudy giuliani and others were that 8000 dead voters voted in pennsylvania's election and i simply pointed out that when investigating cases like this, it is very easy to investigate whether a vote was cast for a deceased voter or not. you have access to the date the voter passed away. in the voter registration database, you have access to see when dates were cast by certain voters. a dead voter voting is the easiest thing in the world to prove and i pointed out that not only did we not have evidence of 8000 of them -- repeated by prominent people -- we did not have evidence of 8 of them. some of that was related to that and some was related to what we are discussing today, the sort of threat environment and what can be done to help with that. i testified in front of the january 6 committee and the senate rules committee on threats to election workers. i know senator amy klobuchar, i am grateful she did this recently, she put forward a bill called the "election worker protection act," which is something being done at the federal level t

rudy giuliani. [ laughter and moans ] you'd think they were contestants on "love island" if you didn't know better. what a book this is. i have to admit, i find it very entertaining. he's not boring like joe biden sucking on a roll of necco wafers. going to bed at 8:00. he does ten crazy things a day. of course, trump is calling it all a lie. the whole book's a lie, as he always does. and his supplicants are doing everything they can to change the subject. >> trump gets off the stage the other night after another incredible rally, thousands of people, and some wanted him to sign a hat. they threw it hat on the stage, he catches that. but then they threw the sharpie. nailed it. one-handed. crushes it. ♪ oh no i'm coming ♪ >> joe biden can't bring a bicycle to a stop, but trump can silt there after speaking to people, catch sharpies out of the air. the only thing joe biden can catch is covid. good hands, dad, proud of you. >> jimmy: also, dad, if you could come pick me up, i've been in this field for two weeks. [ laughter and applause ] i don't know how to get home. wow. meanwhile, t

he's like the rudy giuliani question. and i don't have a good answer for that. >> not even slightly. really interesting. i believe we'll think about it. dr. jekyll, mr. hyde, wherever the part of the debate that you're doing. that's a prom in general for the poor little girl. i want to remind people of the child we are talking about and yet again being uses a political pawn. back last night again for the former president who criticize americans for not being more appreciative of his moves on israel. let's look at why that's a problem and how that will play out into the antisemitic trope, next. ♪ music: “everywhere” by fleetwood mac ♪ you ready? ♪ ♪ ♪ can you hear me calling ♪ ♪ out your name? ♪ ♪ you know that i've faing ♪ ♪ and i don know what to say ♪ ♪ oh, i ♪ dude ♪ i want to be with you everywhere. ♪ from bolt to blazer, equinox to silverado, chevy evs are for everyone, everywhere. ( ♪ ) (snorting) (clattering) (frustrated grunt) i need some sleep. (groaning) (growling) (silence)

anyway, they said rudy giuliani cleaned it up, and he was on our show, and he said we had a policy that any homeless person on the streets of new york, my police officers had to go and help them and put them in a shelter. so they cleaned up the homeless problem. talk to anyone now who goes on the subway, no one feels safe riding the subway here. we see all the crime. we report on it almost daily. but even if nothing happens to you, you always see someone homeless sleeping on the subway or someone who's crazy, who is screaming at someone for no reason. >> brian: bill de blasio disbanded the homeless and unit. they said no everyone by name and other problems. they are disbanded, so they are just left there. if you are serious about cracking down on crime, commissioner bratton and kelly would do anything you want to let you know how they did it. and they are available. if he was serious, if she was serious, they would both called. >> ainsley: she has had a chance. >> brian: she's totally awful. >> steve: they would do something about no cash bail. that's the single dumbest thing democrats

look at rudy giuliani. it's already happened to him. it's happening to sidney powell. it can happen to many others. in addition, your reputation is shot. who is going to hire you in the future? i'm stunned, for example, that jim trustee signed the cnn complaint. that's a frivolous lawsuit. it will be dismissed which says failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. his reputation will be shot. who is going to want to hire him. yeah, it really makes no sense. i have to say that christina bobb was careful -- she did not say there's absolutely nothing left, everything has been turned over. she said based on the information provided to me. that is deliberately misleading, but under a supreme court case, deliberately misleading but literally true is not perjury. so it's not perjury. on the other hand, by saying what she said, she opens herself up to be questioned and i assume today's questioning included who told you that information and even if it's your client, you have to reveal it because of that. if it's another lawyer you're working with, they're in trou

first of all, olivia your article on rudy giuliani is really important right now, especially about the drinks at the mark hotel, one of the best. tim, i guess my question is my biggest take away from tonight is trying to reach people that wen demonize, trump fans and is hard when you engage with some people and talk about qanon and all this other stuff but have you had success in moving people you know away from trump and if so how do you do it? and i guess -- >> i have had a lot of success on that, sadly, but i do, the book, this is a challenge that i have that indeed to try to live up to myself but i have like empathy for the qanon crowd, right? and people that are genuinely maga or genuinely pro-life or genuinely believe that the election was stolen. like, they are being lied to you. like, they're being like you. so like the people i have a problem with in the book other people that know better that are, you know, creating a permission structure for this and are inflaming these folks. i think it's important it's easy and social media stuff to make fun of, and i'm guilty of that at t

rudy giuliani, lindsey graham, are all being asked about the same thing, which is the representation of false numbers. and so this is an example of, oh, there is election fraud, and the election fraud is on behalf of donald trump. and here, it is not just rudy giuliani and lindsey graham, who are being accused of this, you are apparently -- we're all going to eventually see these emails that judge carter looked at. and said, these are an example of knowingly making false representations about statistics involving voter fraud, that internally, their own lawyers were saying, were problematic. and that takes away the key defense, which is advice of counsel. because here you have counsel saying it is wrong. >> barbara mcquade, it's fascinating to see eastman and being so reckless, in some ways, and then trying to cover himself and other ways, at the same time. >> yeah, it really is -- you know reducing something to writing is always very dangerous, but when a lawyer is advising his clients, it's what appears to be here, with john eastman. he was giving his clients great advice! he was ta

ginni thomas, rudy giuliani, they lead that. where is the hearing on the fake electors? thank you. host: before you go, what do you think about the timing of this, coming just a few weeks before the 2022 midterm elections? i think we lost tom. bud, west virginia, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. first thing, we need to look at the whole picture. the first thing that we need to look at is that the capitol police's first line of duty when the capitol is being attacked is to use deadly force. ok, excuse me. but anyway, the security of the capitol was in the hands of nancy pelosi and the mayor, not the president, at that time. i believe it was all set up through the democrats to make it look bad for trump. if you look at some of the videos, the doors was open for some of the protesters. host: did you watch the videos yesterday? what did you think of those efforts by congressional leaders to try to get additional military and police to the capitol to try to clear out the capitol behind the scenes? what did you think about that yesterday? call

with the exception of rudy giuliani not to do it. and even rudy giuliani admitted later they didn't have evidence. they didn't have evidence of fraud. they didn't have evidence of irregularities. sufficient to change the outcome of the election. . but donald trump determined he was going to declare victory. >> that's liz cheney within the last hour, ali, as we saw from the committee and the closing argument of sorts, not only, was it a pre-meditated plan that he would declare victory, whether or not he had won the election, but in fact, he knew he lost, as it it was communicated to him by multiple aides. cassidy hutchison for all of her courage, one of the most powerful staples she made was the one that she heard the president say to mark meadows, you got to figure this thing out, we can't let people know we lost this. and there are so many unanswered questions. a lot of them related to the secret service and all of those communications that they're still sorting through. what will they be able to do with time as a real obstacle here

mayor, thank you for taking time from pressure washing city hall for traces of rudy giuliani to speak with me today. let's begin with your journey to the mayor of the greatest city on earth, where you can watch hugh jackman sing and dance for a mere month's salary, new york. why has your story broken through? i mean doesn't the democratic party have enough jacked, vegan ex-cop sexagenarian club kids? [ laughter ] >> that's a great description. i'm just think pragmatic. you know, all of us remember and recall our grandmothers, our aunties, our mom and dad, just giving us common sense. everyone talks about dollars and cents. no, it's common sense. >> mm-hmm. >> and that is the philosophy. that is how i approach life, just common sense things to do. >> speaking of common sense, you've said that because of rare gems and stones under new york, there's a special energy that comes from here. do you stand by that statement? >> don't you feel it? you know, i wear stones and great energy. >> now here's the problem, though. every four years, a politician says "i believe my city is powered by gem

giuliani, and this year i believe steve bannon is on tap to be buried. so they are having a lot of fun in their decorating and getting in some laughs. >> they must have other inspiration as well, because it seems as though there are ghouls, and i see pumpkins, can you tell us a little bit more about how they decide what's going to go in their yard? >> it's a collection that they've added to slowly over the years and they've ordered from catalogs and each year they pick something else and it's really a tradition that wade is carrying on from his own father, who was a huge decorator for halloween, and really inspired wade to decorate his own house and draw kids and neighbors all around to come check out their elaborate display. >> i just got a chuckle, the anti-vaxer tombstone. there is so much to see with this house. we are also hearing that it's the place to go if trick-or-treaters want to score some scan -- want to score some candy among other things. >> for sure. it's become such a tradition in the neighborhood that wade and his husband actually starte

just recently, the date maybe a month or so ago and doj with rudy giuliani's home, there was reporting later that the biden white house was really ticked off because that night was biden's first joint address of congress and they wanted to be a moment and get the big talk of the news media was diverted to this rate on rudy and myself a story, about good. exactly how it should be. the last thing doj should never be doing is going on to the white house and say, we did do a big thing today that my takes media attention away are you cool with that printed you want to soften the fact that i was glad to see the biden white house was ticked off at that. should be no communication regarding the prosecutorial function doj and so i'm encouraged that were making progress on that level we need policy changes as well. >> and i want to get into some of the questions here from the viewers don't freak out. i'm just going to your first name. if you don't want me to use your first and last name just put it in there. to start, ellen are you going to get reading e.g. carol, did they decide to continue wit

i said the same thing to rudy giuliani not just on television but he bumped into him at a restaurant in frisco here in the city. i said to him, what you are doing is going to come back to bite you. lo and behold, once again, i'm not pressure. i am nostradamus. i just know the man well enough to know that he does not care about anyone or anything and he will use anyone his case included in order to keep himself out of trouble. >> many are speculating he's going to run for election in 2024 knew what we say this to me that he is not. tell me why. >> because it would distort destroy the great grift. if he wasn't all the money would have to go into a campaign funded people would have to start expressing who they are and becomes listed. they do not want that anymore than he wants that. in his pack,, people do not realize this. he gets to use total discretion. 90% of all the funds 90 cents of every dollar he has full discretion over. you can buy himself another airplane or use this money to fix this old airplane right now. it is a slush fund. you know the important thing about revenge is th

i would ask christina bob or alina hub or any one of these eastman, rudy giuliani, all of them, i just wish that they would have listened -- i wish people would read it because then they would understand exactly what happened to me with the biggest fear that i have is that it will happen to you. you're a critic of donald trump. he does not take lightly to. so his enemies list is quite large. >> let me ask you about the book really quickly, why have you. it's titled revenge and in it, you talk about how the department of justice is basically weaponized against trump critics. how much damage do you think has been done to the department of justice because of donald trump, and is it irreversible? >> and in norman amount of damage. and is it reversible? it needs to be completely overhauled. when you start seeing the former president bashing fbi agents, bashing law enforcement, the department of justice, today, claiming that joe biden and the biden administration weaponized the department of justice against him, it's, again, donald trump to function. this is exactly what he did, so he believ

first of all, olivia article on rudy giuliani is really important right now, especially the drinks at the mark hotel, one of the best. but tim, i guess my question is my biggest takeaway from tonight is trying reach people that, you know, we demonize as trump fans and it's hard when you engage with some and they talk about cunanan and all this stuff. but have you had success in moving people you know, away from trump? and if so, how do you do it? and i guess that's my haven't had much success on that, sadly, but i do a lot the book, you know this is a challenge that i have that i need to try to live up to myself, but i have empathy for the q and a crowd, right. and people that are genuinely maga or genuinely pro-life or genuinely believe that the election was stolen, like they're being lied to. right. like they're being lied. and so like the people that i have a problem in the book are the people that know better, that are, that are, you know, creating a permission for this and that are inflaming these folks. and so i'm just i think that it's important that's really easy on social med

. >> thank you so much for it first of all olivia, your article andrt rudy giuliani was really important right now. [laughter] especially about the drinks at the market but one my question is my biggest take away from tonight is trying to reach people that we demonized. so trump fans, it is hard when you engage with some people they talk about qanon and all this other stuff. have you, had success moving awy from trump and if so how do you do it? and if so i guess that's fine. >> i have a lot of success on that sadly. this is a challenge i have money to live up to myself. i have empathy for the queue and on, right? people are genuinely pro-life or genuinely believe. they are being lied to. they are being lied to. people i have a problem with have a permission structure truly easy and sociald media. i'm guilty about that at times no doubt. that is the key. to try to speak to these people. i hoped that some of them will eventually see. i think jane is induced the upcoming hearings. the people that went to jail because of january 6, those peopleli were defrauded have ben ruined. donald trump

giuliani. and the president and the typical precise way of talking was like, yeah, i want you to cooperate with durham investigation so you canit work with bill barr on that and i want you to investigate everything and that has to be looked at and talk to giuliani and the attorney general about that. we were not morgantowning biden at that point. investigating biden at that point, joe biden and never when i was attorney general. but i was angry because he lumped me in together with rudy nigiuliani but, you know, i did- i'm sort of doing this rebooting assignment. what i was focused on was was this evidence of the crime and they're claiming this could be a political contribution essentially and trying to bend the law that's what politics is about now and i was so upset and i made the decision there was no obstruction and that was the end of it. they didn't want me to act on the ukrainian thing and they wanted to move impeachment first so the same thing wouldn't happen to them on ukraine. so the

giuliani years, that new york is no longer here. there is this wishful thinking that you think it's going to get better. i don't see how it gets better i'm usually a pretty optimistic person. >> greg: you made a book called things are going to be okay! [laughter] >> unless you go to new york. >> everything will be okay if you make smart decisions. one of the decisions people are having to make is -- they can't all leave. what can you do to take the innocence of your children that you love but make sure they are also going to be safe. the violence is so random, it's random everywhere. i am a little bit nervous not so much for percy but sometimes you think if you have a dog you will be safer, there is that. i think i would be a lot more safe if tyrus can teach me how to say that like your daughter says that. >> i got you. >> greg: don't pretend like you don't swear we have film proof of that which i would call up an hour but i don't have it on hand. >> it's allin presentation. i got your. >> i can't even begin to say it. >> greg: we a

how does the fbi -- rudy giuliani told me this. he had two laptops in his office when they came and confiscated his stuff and found nothing. he said what about these laptops? the fbi says what are they? hunter biden's laptops. >> we don't want those. >> greg: he touch them, i can understand. >> they weren't dishwasher safe. >> they did spray them with some stuff. >> greg: so did he. >> what is crazy is imagine a bank robbery, guys just -- millions of dollars in the back of the truck, the cops pull up and go you know you got a broken headlight. that's how absurd this is. >> greg: what do you make of this, morgan? >> i wrote an op-ed as many people have done detailing the business he has done with the chinese communist party. hunter biden i look at him, he's a. >> greg: i disagree. >> he's the ultimate [bleep]. >> greg: the ultimate what? >> women keep having children with him, he looks like a [bleep]. >> what is that? [laughter] >> greg: whatever it is we are probably going to be editing it down a little bit. >> you've never heard o

giuliani new date never— including rudy giuliani new date never had — including rudy giuliani new date never had real evidence sufficient to change — never had real evidence sufficient to change the election results. and on the _ to change the election results. and on the evening ofjanuary five they admitted _ on the evening ofjanuary five they admitted they were still trying to find that— admitted they were still trying to find that phantom evidence. of course — find that phantom evidence. of course as— find that phantom evidence. of course as a result of making an intentionally false claims of election fraud mr giuliani is licensed _ election fraud mr giuliani is licensed to practice law has now been _ licensed to practice law has now been suspended. second, please recognise— been suspended. second, please recognise that president donald trunrp _ recognise that president donald trump was in a unique position, better— trump was in a unique position, better informed about the absence of widespread election fraud than almost — widespread election fraud than almost any othe

giuliani first came in. now cathy hochul picks brian benjamin who was on top of the scandals that led to the arrest and resignation, he was the champion of defund the police movement and now there's a new story of the person getting elevated and promoted inside of cath cathy hochul's inner circumstance and will a champion of the defund the police movement and cashless bail needs revoked and cathy hochul is saying essentially you have to elect her to find out where maybe she'll stand on the issue in january and also says there's no data to support it: when you talk about data and is statisti, there are three kids not growing up with a mother in the buffalo area because they watched her get murdered last wednesday because of cashless bail, because judges don't have discretion to weigh danger nows. maria: unbelievable. i know cashless bail is largely behind all of this and just bad policy in new york, but what about the wide open border? five more migrant buses arrived in new york's port authority so far this m

giuliani, steve bannon, michael flynn, roger stone, john eastman, the key architects, many of them plead the fifth when they testified before the committee. the key question that we don't have an answer to is how does trump respond and whether he will comply in any way. the documents investigation is a separate investigation. what we saw on friday there was that trump's team put out these discrepancies related to some small subset of the documents that the special master took. the key thing here, though, what it really shows is just how drawn out this special master process may be if the doj is unsuccessful at trying to get it stopped through the courts. >> jeremy, thank you so much for breaking that down. we appreciate your reporting. >>> while trump's decision to run again for president is still up in the air, his boeing 757 is revved up and ready to go just in case. according to flight data studied and analyze d by cnn and aviatin experts, trump's jet spent hours running pattern flights over a small airport in l.a. pilots were likely testing various updated components before heading t

rudy giuliani, on tv l. a. said -- my god. this is not what he wants. they have all led him. >> there is a history. he talks a big game. he was subpoenaed in the new york case, by the attorney general, and from the subpoena, to him complying, was eight months. then, he pled the fifth. it is a bombshell that 30 people, around trump, we learn for the first time, we did know the full number, pled the fifth amendment. if, and that casey, ultimately complies, he can plead the fifth, but then you have the nation seeing him, being asked, did you plan it as a coup? oh, i plead the fifth, because of my criminal exposure. did you intend to cause violence on the sixth? i plead the fifth. did you intend to have mike pence violently attacked, or assassinated? i plead the fifth. i don't care what you think of america's ability to process news and facts, that would be a huge deal. if it's not a criminal court, it can adversely affect him. he has the right to plead it, but voters have the right to factor in, do you want to give control of the military to someone who sa

and then, rudy giuliani who hasn't mayor yet, but, was still extremely popular in the district i ran in, would come in. you're so good you flew, at the time. >> on that top campaign button, yours, from one of your early campaigns, who came up with that generation, a new generation of leadership? >> all of us. we were trying to do the generational thing. both the separate my folks from my dad, but also, for those who are following on the kennedy-esque -- not to compare myself to the president at all, but, the benefits of having someone younger. getting into politics. so, i think that is what we were trying for their. >> when you first came to the house in 1990, there was 28 women. have you found, because there was so few of you, that women gravitated towards each other? >> yes. i think we still do. i still consider leader pelosi a dear friend. there is much to say about the conversation of women being able to come across a congressional body, and make things happen. i had, always, worked with the violence against women act, and now we're working with things that aren't going to move.

people like roger stone, steven bannon, rudy giuliani and jeffrey clark and john eastman. these are two key architects and allies of the former president as he was trying to find desperate ways to remain in power in those days after the election, wolf. >> but the key question remains, will the committee actually get the former president's testimony. >> well that remains to be seen. we don't think that the former president is of course going to just turn over everything. he has hired a lawyer to help litigate some of this. he has a number of options. one is that he could cooperate and turn over those documents and come in for a deposition. he has said at least on his social media platform that he's prepared to come in and do a live interview with the committee. of course the committee is not prepared to do it that way. the other option for him of course is to do what he's done before, which is to say that the committee is illegitimate and to try to fight this out in court and run out the clock. because he knows that this committee is facing, of course, the end of the term h

rudy giuliani had his apartment raided for suspicion of fara violations. there can't be two standards of justice. he was addicted to drugs at the time. what involvement his father had there are questions that need to be answered as well. >> bill: if all it happens the white house has to be ready for it and already beefing up for this. they'll need an army of people. >> paying $265,000 of you and my money to pay for the two individuals i just mentioned to sort of run interference on what they expect to be the blizzard of subpoenas and inquiries. if republicans take back the house that team is expected to grow. >> dana: john levine, thank you so much. we look to you for news on this stuff. we appreciate it. >> bill: thank you, john. >> dana: thank you for having me. a new york pizza shop owner smacked in the head by a ball hit by aaron judge and no, it wasn't the 62nd home run this season but may have been the next best thing. find out why when that fan pauly g, joins us next. ♪ are you a veteran, own a home, and need cash? you need to know about the va ca