even in europe today and that you they've become more and more, saito call it but it's not pure socialist but i'll give you one example. germany we are proud about our automobile industry and they decided what to pursue. they say the government, only in the future electric vehicle stop with other things. it's crazy but that's what happens right now. if you ask me, this industry, even they have a crazy energy policy, an article in the "wall thstreet journal", the energy policies in the world, it's about germany and it's true because they stopped nuclear power and they wanted windmills but we don't have so much time. it's crazy but it's idolatry. idolatry. >> voters are supporting these politicians putting these policies in place. >> yes, it's correct. because we know from history the majority is not always right and sometimes the majority is wrong in this time i think they are wrong if they support parties like this. >> there is a new trend in the united states when it comes to investing called es' environmental social governance movement, what is your take. >> i don't believe in this. eve