should nato or the un have intervened directly after bucha? ., . , , bucha? unfortunately the rules in which this _ bucha? unfortunately the rules in which this conflict _ bucha? unfortunately the rules in which this conflict has - in which this conflict has moved forward, the rules that have been replaced after world war ii with the nato alliance and the nato member countries but that should not stop the united nations and the world from helping ukraine. ukraine has never asked anybody to intervene by putting boots on the ground, they have asked for weapon systems so that they themselves can fight for freedom. in my personal opinion, if putin had been allowed to do, and there has been more than one bucha, to be clear, there have been multiple bucha scenarios, anywhere really the russians have stopped. but ukraine has asked for the weapons they need to achieve victory which is a complete russian withdrawal from ukraine and they have already shown the world that it is possible, they are achieving victory on the ground but they still need things like attack dro

this is bucha district, after all, ground zero for russia's war crimes. eugene is the regional manager for this program. >> they started to tell some really cruel things. i cannot even describe how cruel they were. some children saw invaders raping their mother or beating their father. >> kesenia volunteers as a psychologist, seeing parents whose children had to hide with them in silence or spend long periods with no bathroom breaks. and the body remembers this, and even after reaching safety the child cannot go to the toilet. it's the same with speech. the parents have told them to keep quiet, so the child closes its mouth and does not know when they can talk again. so they turn to these kinds of games and katerina, the volunteer art therapist says she sees them gradually come out of their shells and start to smile and connect again. they seem to forget about their inner stress when they're making something like this, says katerina. back in the construction zone mick layne nah has her own harrowing story of loss and recovery. she says her first husband w

. >> you also visited bucha. a suburb of kyiv. the area contains a mass grave with evidence of civilian slaughtered. how does -- we remembered the images vividly because it was an international outrage at the time. what did you see today? >> not only you see the photographic evidence, the place where the mass graves are located but talking to the people that lived through this and coming back to bucha to hear firsthand from them how they found people just murdered in the streets. bodies buried in mass graves the stories of rape, murder, loot is horrific and the war crimes are unconscionable. >> you are an adviser to a company donating radiation protection equipment if i have that right. that would be in case of a chernobyl type event. that tells us that this is a huge concern, a big worry there. is how important is that protection going to be? how necessary is it? do you think? >> so the company is called stem rad and they are a company that actually has hardware on orion to protect the future astronauts flying around the mean and

i heard about it in bucha, now in kherson, the horrible killings, the rapes, abductsion of children. these are all war crimes. >> thank you very much. a cnn exclusive. we go one on one with the first woman elected to become the mayor of los angeles, congresswoman karen bass joins us to talk about her historic victory and her plans for the country's second largest city. we'll be right back. vo: it's a new day. because covid vaccines just got a big update. just in time for everyone who works. with other people. just in time for... ...more togetherness. just in time to say “oh, you bet we'll be there!” because the updated vaccines can now protect against both the original covid virus and omicron. and that's a moment... we've all been waiting for. how many rooms are in there? should we go check it out? yeah. we get to stay here all weekend! when you stay at a vrbo... i call doing the door code! ...the host doesn't stay with you. it looks exactly like the picture. because without privacy in your vacation home... it's a full log cabin guys. ...it isn't really a vacation... we can snugg

this is bucha, about 20 miles outside of kyiv, behind me was once a mass grave containing the bodies of hundreds of ukrainian civilians slaughtered by russian troops. for those who remain in this town, the survivors, the pain is still vivid. life has resumed now that the russians have been pushed out, but in the town center teams of psychologists help children deal with loss and trauma through play. the children choose toys according to what worries them, she says. so you've got fighter jets, you've got military vehicles. she says those are the toys most used by the kids. they even speak about the possibility of nuclear war, one of the caseworkers wanted to show us exactly how this work s for a child, there's a moment of silence at first. but then, the psychologist's own memories quickly bring her to tears. and you do this all the time, what were you thinking? she says she wanted to place two angels to symbolize the victims but then said she simply couldn't because she was there during the massacre, she helped people look for their missing loved ones and the memories were all too har

she came back to bucha as soon as she can. targeting press just shows how inhumane this aggressive regime is and how this war is about the values, the democracy. it is defending democracy and our way of living in ukraine for all of us. >> do you think there will be accountability for war crimes? >> i'm sure it will be, and we will not stop until there is accountability. we all need it. not only to punish those who did this horrible crimes in ukraine, but to prevent all others. we need to send a very strong message that it's not okay in the 21st century to do this to a peaceful nation. >> thank you very much. thank you for your heroism and the record you have shown. carol, so many pulitzers, more to come. so much gratitude. the book is simply remarkable. >> thank you. >>> coming up, confusion, distrust and disinformation in one battleground state, in pennsylvania. what it might mean for the vote coming up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is gloria. she hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with her

mr president, you see the facts on the ground, as i do, from bucha to mariupol. do you need investigations to answer a question as simple as this? is vladimir putin responsible for war crimes? that should be condemned, like in international legislation, we have agreed. is vladimir putin responsible for war crimes? it seems to be the case. is that a yes? hm? is that a yes? i believe that it is. it seems to be the case that he is responsible what has been happening and done criminal acts. thank you for being clear. in that case, how can you or emmanuel macron or olaf scholzjustify the idea of still talking to vladimir putin? i am a strong supporter of macron and scholz continuing if there is a possibility of saving human lives. you have to keep that also in mind. if such a possibility is so, it has to be used. just... but i don't see just at the moment such a possibility. we've talked a lot about your relationship with russia and how it is changing — in fact, changing in dramatic ways. one area, arena, of potential confrontation in the future is the arctic north.

this is bucha district after, all ground zero for russia's war crimes. eugene's the regional manager for this program. >> they started to tell some really cool things, i cannot, described how cruel they were. some children saw invaders raping their mother, or beating their father. >> this is a volunteer is a psychologist here seeing parents whose children have had to hide within silence, or spend long periods with no bathroom breaks. and the body remembers this, and even after reaching safety, the child cannot go to the toilet, she says. it is the same with speech, the parents have told him to keep quiet so the child closest, mouth and does not know when they can talk again. and so they turn to these kinds of games, the volunteer or therapist says she sees them gradually come out of their shells, and start to smile and connect again. they seem to forget about their inner stress when they are making something like this this catarina. back in the construction zone, she has her own harrowing story of loss, and recovery. she says her first husband was killed

yes, but you know, i was in izyum, in borodyanka, in bucha, these cities were destroyed totally, and kherson is different. kherson was left by russian soldiers, they you know, they go away, they get away, a lot of people said to me that for example, they took normal cars, you know, cars from people, and get away by the bridge, the engine —esque breach. i think the difference is that this city is not... it was not fighting in the city. the russians left the city, and this is different and this is the reason why now people can celebrate this day, this freedom, this moment.— people can celebrate this day, this freedom, this moment. when you talk to the peeple. — freedom, this moment. when you talk to the peeple. are _ freedom, this moment. when you talk to the people, are you _ freedom, this moment. when you talk to the people, are you concerned, - to the people, are you concerned, are you hearing concerns about russian troops on the left side of that any pro river? because there are concerns that they will be building up there, bedding in there and potentially strengthening their

respect culture. to be bucha respect our culture. we will probably be replaced by drag. course kind of drag. we course i do kind of think has been and it's think there has been and it's not football. i mean, we not just in football. i mean, we talk this in gb talk about this a lot in gb news. it's almost kind like news. it's almost kind of like one sort of axioms of the one of the sort of axioms of the station, the culture stuff station, the culture war stuff to bleed into every arena. and you now get the situation where most conversation seems most of the conversation seems to around you to revolve around that, you know, or not you're know, whether or not you're wearing an armband and it almost feels me as if people who feels to me as if people who aren't interested in football have captured football and steered conversation to steered the conversation to things in. things they're interested in. like part exactly. like every part of it. exactly. yeah yeah, that's true. and like, football is just sort of coach of train watch a marvel

respect culture. to be bucha respect our culture. we will probably be replaced by drag. course kind of drag. we course i do kind of think has been and it's think there has been and it's not football. i mean, we not just in football. i mean, we talk this in gb talk about this a lot in gb news. it's almost kind like news. it's almost kind of like one sort of axioms of the one of the sort of axioms of the station, the culture stuff station, the culture war stuff to bleed into every arena. and you now get the situation where most conversation seems most of the conversation seems to around you to revolve around that, you know, or not you're know, whether or not you're wearing an armband and it almost feels me as if people who feels to me as if people who aren't interested in football have captured football and steered conversation to steered the conversation to things in. things they're interested in. like part exactly. like every part of it. exactly. yeah yeah, that's true. and like, football is just sort of coach of train watch a marvel

anyone who has seen the photographs of bucha and the corporations on the ground in bucha, who have seen the ruins of mariupol, a beautiful city in southern ukraine, this is brutal investigation by russia and to compare it to america's border problems, which are serious and need to be addressed, but to compare it to a savage war just makes me wonder, you know, what planet she's on. >> what planet is she on? >> there were ukrainian soldiers that were brought up to the hill yesterday, and she was essentially saying, oh, if you don't want to see these wounded ukrainian soldiers, we have to see what these funds are going to, cut it off. >> i want to get to sam stein in a moment. i have a question for susan who knows nancy pelosi better than anybody. this was a crazy, ignorant, nasty dangerous statement that this woman made. marjorie taylor greene. ignorant. just as ignorant as it gets. if someone in the democratic caucus of speaker pelosi said something of the same ilk, of the same level of ignorance, and also cruelty, given the fact that the ukrainians are working and killing themselves and

german intelligence has said that they believe they were involved in the killings of civilians in bucha, that suburb of kyiv. obviously no one can forget those sorts of images. and they are heavily involved in the fighting that is taking place in eastern ukraine right now. we have seen, interestingly, a group of ukrainians coming together in the uk and hiring a law firm to try to push for wagner to be prescribed as a terrorist organization and for there to be much heavier checks and balances in terms of their funding. now, it's not clear that that would have any real impact on the operations of the group because there's no indication they have any funding coming out of the united kingdom. but it does potentially open the way for some kind of accountability because what, jake, they have been able to do for so long is operate in the shadows because they don't officially exist. because in the russian constitution, a private mercenary group is not even a legal and valid organization. so, him openly talking about the fact that he is the head of wagner and that they are directly implicated in

. >> i have to recognize that it was not as bad as in mariupol and bucha. >> reporter: right, everyone was killed there. you survived. >> people was killed. but i think that also people were killed here. we just don't know that yet. i live near the prison. some people told that dead bodies were taken off. >> reporter: from the prison? >> from the prison, yes. and it's just rumors. i don't know. but i -- >> reporter: now you can find the truth. >> we will find the truth, yes. and i think that the throughout will be horrible. and now i feel a great feeling of relief because it's our people. i'm not afraid of our people with weapons, with arms. those people, they were not openly aggressive, but, you know, we tried to step back from them. we never knew what to expect from them. sometimes they helped our elderly people with some money. they gave some humanitarian aid to people. but today they gave humanitarian aid. tomorrow they will kill you. our people, our soldiers, i'm not afraid of them. i'm happy that they are here. >> yesterday here, nobody, nobody, because all people in -- >> report

>> reporter: we visited bucha where the russians slaughtered hundreds of ukrainian civilians who were then buried in a mass grave. the town is bustling in the determination of the people to win this war seems stronger than ever. >> incredible. thank you, martha. we'll have more of martha's reporting next sunday on "this week" as she continues to travel the region. up next, rachel scott is live in las vegas where the 2024 gop hopefuls are making their case and breaking with trump. that's next. [narrator] everyone needs quality health insurance, even if you're healthy and active. covered california is a free service to help you get covered. 90% of members have received financial help and every plan offered is comprehensive, covering preventive care, doctor visits, emergency care, and more. regardless of your income, check today to see how covered california can help you. and if you have questions, there's free assistance every step of the way. covered california, this way to health insurance. enroll by december 31st at coveredca.com. >>> coming up, rachel scott is on the ground in las v

we saw horrible scenes from bucha or from izium. what we see in kherson after liberating kherson is beyond even calling it war crimes. many people were subjected for months to torture, to executions, for just having a ukrainian flag or for just speaking ukrainian. so this is a genocidal war. russians are doing it everywhere. that's why we need to liberate our territory faster. that's why every day that we can actually liberate our territories, we save lives of our people there. >> let me get your reaction also, ambassador, while i have you, to the latest comments made by the chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley. he had a slowdown in fighting in ukraine this winter could provide a window for a political solution. is that realistic? >> we -- you know, nobody wanted peace more than ukraine, and nobody was ready and tried diplomacy for before as extensive as we can and even after february. but russia is not ready for diplomacy. russia does not want diplomacy. they are waging the war on us, and they have to lea

made it very clear over time that russia should be held accountable, whether it's for the killings in bucha, the rapes and all the other war crimes that every time territory is regained from russian control we hear so much about. the reality of who's going to impose, who's going to arbitrate on that is unclear. a hint of that came today in the decision of a dutch court today to find three people guilty of downing mh-17, that malaysian airliner that was hit and taken down in 2014 by ukrainian separatists and russian intelligence officials together. that's an indication there. and president zelenskyy made this point today. it is an indication that perpetrators of crimes will eventually be caught. to the point on that incident in poland, it would be a long way off i think before anyone is in the dock over that. >> speaking of possible war crimes, of the brutality that is being uncovered everywhere in ukraine as russian forces are retreating, one ukrainian official says investigators in the liberated parts of kherson have found 11 detention centers and there's evidence of torture used in at lea

>> reporter: we visited bucha where the russians slaughtered hundreds of ukrainian civilians who were then buried in a mass grave. the town is bustling in the determination of the people to win this war seems stronger than ever. >> incredible. thank you, martha. we'll have more of martha's reporting next sunday on "this week" as she continues to travel the region. up next, rachel scott is live in las vegas where the 2024 gop hopefuls are making their case and breaking with trump. that's next. >>> coming up, rachel scott is on the ground in las vegas where we're hearing something we haven't heard in a long time, a gathering of high-profile republicans, some of them saying it's time for donald trump to go. my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. ray's a1c is down with rybelsus®. i'm down with rybelsus®. my a1c is down with rybelsus®. in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus® significantly lowered a1c better than a leading branded pill. in the same study, people taking rybelsus® lost more weight. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or you

they called the atrocities in bucha and in mariupol and the hits on residential buildings and schools and hospitals, they blame those on others when it is clear that the russians have been responsible for those. so that line of this is a deliberate provocation is undermind by eun undermined by everything we've seen throughout this invasion. >> it certainly is undermined by that, victor. there's no question that the russians will obfuscate and make things seem different than they actually are. the fact of the matter is that it's very clear that the russians were attacking targets in western ukraine. they were attacking targets near lviv, which is not too far from this polish village that was hit. and it's very clear also that they've attacked these areas before. so it's highly likely that this russian missile, if this missile is a russian missile, first of all, and secondly that either it hit a target that it may not have intended to hit or that it was shot down by ukrainian air defense or something happened to it, you know, in mid-flight. but regardless of what happened, the russians

so, you know, if we go by what we've seen in bucha and irpin and other places, i'm terriied what we're learning under russian control there. but at the same time, it's one of the two major cities that russia managed to capture, second being mariupol. so it's amazing. i think without weapons of mass destruction, you know, it's all downhill from here. >> ambassador mcfaul, that was my question for you. why don't they just leave? i mean what does -- and if vladimir putin told his country it was a special military operation, can he leave with his tail between his legs now? >> he most certainly can, and i wish he would. and if you listen to their commentary, they keep saying we did this to save the russian army moving across the giant river on the other side of kherson. and the best way to save the russian army is for them to keep marching eastward and go back to russia. but that's not what i predict. i think he's going to dig in on the other side of the river. he made a giant escalatory move in signing a piece of paper signing kherson and zaporizhzhia is part of russia, and i don't suspect

but i think we interviewed bucha the other day. it blackpool we day. was it like blackpool we were somebody on were interviewing somebody on the and meanwhile the the street and meanwhile the hotel behind him is full of migrants , whether they were migrants, whether they were legal illegal, i don't know. legal or illegal, i don't know. but he sleeping on but nevertheless, he sleeping on the and he couldn't quite the street and he couldn't quite we'll have enough homeless shelters and a lot of the main is predominantly men who are on the street don't actually there to physically or mentally on to actually want strict accommodation use of what they will do is they will drop in to centres where they will be given help. but the major problem think is families are intent to accommodation. they have been evicted and they're that they're the real source they are the real people that have to be helped here and top of everyone else. know the homeless people sleeping on the streets? are they by sometimes. oh they almost by sometimes. oh often. they need more hel