and ron desantis as his vice president. ron desantis is a good man. i think he's done a lot for florida but he's so young. i think if he steps into second place, you know. but, of course, good old trump has his powers. you know, there's talk that he might go into be speaker of the house. well, at least that's not being president. >> host: before we go, again with mike pence, is it a a specific quality he has? is a some things done his will vice president or sign in the senate, that kind of attracted to him? >> caller: well, he stood up to trump and did not do what trump wanted him to do. and he's a good god-fearing man and i think that's what this country needs. the santa's will have his heyday. i'm sure he will make a wonderful president, but i'm not so sure right now is the right time. >> host: donna there in florida giving us your thoughts on who currently leads the republican party again for pumpkins and the audience that solar you in this hour. gary in north carolina you are next. >> caller: i want to do two things. i'm going to make a concession

ron desantis appearing as well. one other headline wrapping up that event, we will show you more from it throughout this segment. this from the washington post. gop 2024 hopefuls chart path against and around trump and eagerness to take on the former president is clear at that las vegas gathering. asking you, should ron desantis run for president in 2024? phone lines as usual, democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8001, independents (202) 748-8002, and we especially want to hear from florida residents after the governor was reelected earlier this month. reelected by 1.5 billion votes. -- 1.5 million votes. the number for florida (202) 748-800 >> i do like ron desantis. i think he can unify people. trump will never unify people. if he gets in there, it will be more division. ron desantis, he is right. he said something after the election. we are doing the same thing in south carolina. people are flogging here from new england states -- flocking to hear from new england states. evidently in florida, what hap

desantis lost it by 20 and now desantis won it. when you have trends over time and it's not just a sugar high because of one election those trends are durable and lasting. i look beyond florida also. we had iowa a clean sweep. picking up congressional seats on long island, new jersey, california. so i think everything all being told we are going to have a decent night and nancy pelosi will no longer be speaker. >> harris: as you were talking about miami-dade county we hopped up some numbers. let's put those back up to we can see those. how the vote has gone from 2018 to 2022. just look at where ron desantis has gone. what is it about miami-dade that is changing? you had a lot of new yorkers. >> they left their ideology behind. that's a concern that we always have which is when you have this influx of folks coming from blue areas, blue states and cities will they leave their blue state ideology? very clear in florida they are so impressed with the competence of governor desantis. let me say something else about him. he does a number

desantis 53 know, a5 yes. clearly there will be summoned that number who will want desantis to be the governor. 65% of floridians don't want donald trump to run again. is significant? it is. to run again. is significant? it is, it's pretty _ to run again. is significant? it is, it's pretty unusual— to run again. is significant? it is, it's pretty unusual for— to run again. is significant? it is, it's pretty unusual for a - to run again. is significant? it is, it's pretty unusual for a candidate with as _ it's pretty unusual for a candidate with as much name recognition as donald _ with as much name recognition as donald trump be trailing in a variety— donald trump be trailing in a variety of— donald trump be trailing in a variety of presidential primary polls— variety of presidential primary polls this early, you say to advance name _ polls this early, you say to advance name recognition from the most familiar— name recognition from the most familiar brand is always the one to lead until— familia

ron desantis is formidable. key is how many republicans will have the courage or conviction to take on donald trump. conservatives, then they can't defeat donald trump. donald trump will win. if it's one-on-one, it's a fair fight, and donald trump could lose. >> john: jason was on with harris falkner earlier today and said a knock down, drag 'em down, bloody fight is in no one's interest in the republican party. listen here. >> i don't think republicans want to hear infighting between donald trump and ron desantis. and right now donald trump keeps taking shots at ron desantis, that is not going to play well. >> john: what do you think? >> well, i think prior to a primary nobody wants to hear that, republicans want to unify and win in 2024. in the course of a primary, get ready for it and i do think there will be a primary, i don't know that desantis wants to run, we'll see. that's up to him individually. but if he does run, it's going to be rough. i mean, we just know that, that's how donald trump runs. it lets

for example he attacks ron desantis over lockdowns, that is idiotic because ron desantis could attack donald trump over lockdowns ever get to get into that. but once they get into talking about the issues and the issue of toughness, who can stand up because it's not like the media is going to be nice to run desantis because is not donald trump. gerry: very quickly, we got to go, i think were all convinced desantis is going to run, there's not a question about that now. >> i guess but he just one governor and he hasn't said, we know that trump is but that's my assumption, who knows. gerry: laura very quickly one thing striking about desantis is a support among hispanics and increasing among blacks two. that's been a big factor in democratic politics for such a long time, is he changing the demographics of the republican party and that one? >> i think so dems have been criticized for taking minorities and granted but they like what they see in ron desantis. gerry: joe biden was taking a victory lap over the victor results. were boaters endorsing him and his party, or sending a message f

a source told cnn, desantis was not invited. and there was this moment at the debate with desantis and crist. yes or no, ron, will you serve the full term if you are elected governor much florida? >> desantis sidestepped that question about his potential 2024 ambitions. trump then reposted a video in which former fox news host said this. >> you think a hard core maga is going to abandon trump or desantis? they are not. and desantis has made inroads with wealthy donors that also helped finance trump campaigns. and desantis was asked about a possible white house run in june. >> if he runs, do you run? how do you make that decision? >> nice try, man, and we are talking and having fun here, so it's all good. >> randi kaye, cnn, florida. >> maggie haberman, and author of the new best-seller, "the making of donald trump and breaking of america." and sarah griffin who served under the former president. you wrote in your new book that the former president has been kind of been privately calling desantis a variety of nicknames or names f

as you say ron desantis is the winner. he didn't just win florida, he completely wiped away democrat opposition in florida. it was incredible win. not only statewide but in miami dade county, which i got to check on this, seven points for bidding 2020 and palm beach county and 13 points biden win in 2020 and basically desantis won both of the counties very well. i love the headline in the post that you mentioned because young is the operative word. i think both parties are looking for transition to the next generation. in the republican party, i think desantis is the de facto leader and he has a great message and appeals to the trump base and by the way, trump is going after him and is he going to want to scorch his reputation and lose standings amongst people believing in his policies and believe his moment has passed. stu: let's deal with trump because democrats john fetterman, you've seen this, quite a shock and he defeated dr. oz in the pennsylvania senate race and flipped the state seat from red to blue. now oz was vi

trump and ron desantis mr. desantis beats mr. trump in crucial primary states, more specifically mr. desantis outperforms mr. trump by 11% in iowa, 15% in new hampshire, 26% in florida. " another survey reported by the daily wire indicates that if the republican primary were held today mr. desantis would be president trump. last week's exit polls showed mr. trump is viewed as less favorable nationwide than president biden at 33% to 36%. of all of the potential 2024 republican challengers to the white house, the only one with higher favorability the mr. biden is florida governor ron desantis. everett piper wrapping up that poland in his column in the washington times. this is cornell in a new jersey. democrat. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. i do not feel ron desantis would be good for the country. he might be good for florida, but he is not good for the country. one that talks about states rights. he will still take a bus load of immigrants and drop them off into democratic cities without any notice. people calling up a

ron desantis. so, i think the bottom line, though, is that whether donald runs or not, if he's challenged in a primary, or if he feels disrespected, he'll do whatever he can to tear the entire republican party down anyway. >> yes. definitely. he has no loyalty to the gop or anyone else. one last question for you, may. donald trump has been lashing out at mitch mcconnell and mcconnell's wife, elaine chao. he's been wet lashing out at virginia governor -- and racist terms. he's going after elaine chao's name, he's going after youngkin's name, which he thinks sounds chinese. i feel that we've become numb to trump's casual, yet relentless racism. it's not even news these days, let alone headline news. >> and that's been a problem since the very beginning. as racism, his antisemitism, his anti immigrant hatred, as misogyny, i've been normalized to the point that they are discussed in terms of good strategy. and it's gotta stop. the problem is, at this point, the only people who can really stop it at the

let's put it this way, desantis and trump in a battle. kamala, joe, pete buttigieg perhaps a battle. i will take our battle and i think we will prevail. >> jesse: what happens with the senate? you heard lindsey. he is still confident is he going to get to 51. >> only get to 51 if we stay on message. every republican steps in the state of georgia don't step in there unless the words on your lip is herschel walker will stop the biden agenda. every republican on message. got to be unified. >> jesse: herschel walker.com is the name of the website. >> there you go. i heard that too, twice. >> jesse: coming up, we sent johnny out to ask new yorkers about what they really think about the midterms. ♪ ♪ pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. and now get relief without a pill with tylenol dissolve packs. relief without the water. what's it like shopping on carvana? it's a car buying process that lets you shop tens of thousands of cars 100% on

>> big night for desantis. trump will go to knock desantis out quickly and strongly as he started doing last night. >> martha: you expect the former president will still announce mid november, kellyanne? >> that's up to him. i think trump can't wait and desantis must and can. he just got re-elected. my advice to president trump would be to do what you've been doing all a long. don't announce until after the mid-terms and the mid-terms are not over. we have to go to this run-off. i'd wait -- >> martha: you'd like him to not say anything -- >> i'd like him to finish what he and others started, get herschel walker in the united states senate so we have a majority there. the mid-terms are not over yet, martha. let's let them finish. donald trump deserves credit for his restraint in not announcing and trying to help candidates as best he could. >> we democrats would like him to announce november 15 as he said he would. that would be great. >> i wants him and other republicans helping herschel walker win. so we'll wa

>> ron desantis is the binner. he didn't just win florida, he completely wiped away democrat opposition. i think both parties are looking for a transition to the next generation. >> florida's going to stay free. we did our part to take back the majority in the house in flipping four seats in florida alone. >> investors have been positioning for something a red wave, as was expected, a red wave would result in a 4, 5, 6% pop, but it doesn't look so good this morning. >> huge disappointment for republicans. there's no other way to put a sugar coat on it. >> gridlock is good from a market perspective because of the fact that we don't have to worry about any major tax reform or regulations over the next two years. ♪ ♪ ooh, i got a few attitude ♪ stuart: i've got a new attitude, is that what it is? lauren: patti labelle. stuart: i guess you could say i'm rather disappointed, but let's not go on. drone on, stu. 11:00 eastern, it is wednesday, november the 9th, the day after, and look what's happening on the markets

, desantis, desantis, which is why he's living range free in donald trump said. and i'm going to you back to you, when somebody said, the other night, you usually counter punches -- and you said, well, he punched just by existing, as far as donald trump is concerned. >> i think trump would love it if ron desantis you would just -- out. but he's a constituent. so, they are always going to need each other. >> i want to step back and meditate on something for a moment. because ron desantis put dozens of winners whaling in silence seekers on a plane to martha's vineyard, a very controversial step, a very hard-line immigration -- and in miami dave county, a community of -- winning among cuban americans and others in that community that have -- >> puerto ricans. >> puerto ricans. and that's where i was going. you talk to a lot of democrats, south florida, you fearmonger and socialism, you will hammer, that you will win. that doesn't explain why puerto ricans supported him. a majority of puerto ricans -- 55% -- they don't have a generational trauma associated with socia

they'll recognize whether it's desantis or god forbid a trump and desantis ticket, oh, my goodness would be an amazing experience. >> oh my obama is what democrats are thinking. they can't have him. >> they can't. >> we'll see. we'll see. all right. more "outnumbered" in a moment. . ♪ veteran homeowners, need cash? with the newday 100 loan, there are no upfront costs for appraisal or termite inspections. no upfront costs at all to get the cash you need. veterans get more at newday. my father didn't know his dad. she knew that i always want to know more about my family history. with ancestry i dug and dug until i found some information. i was able to find out more than just a name. and then you add it to the tree. i found ship manifests. birth certificate. wow. look at your dad. i love it so much to know where my father work, where he grew up? it's like you discover a new family member. it's the greatest gift. now on sale at ancestry. ♪♪ >> "new york times" is getting burned on social media after publishing advice on how people can cope with the results of the midterm elections. the

the key thing with the desantis/trump numbers we saw tonight, that is imperative and it's good for desantis, not good for trump. that's a snapshot in time. i always like to look at the trends and you look at the real clear politics trends over the last few months, donald trump has lost in his numbers and desantis has gained and we're looking at trump has lost about 5 points over the last three months, desantis has gained. so if that trend continues, that levels out. part of it is because desantis has been a proven leader, he is a good fundraiser and now he has risen to the stature of earning a nickname from donald trump and that right there -- >> desanctimonious. maria, i want you to talk about the latino vote, you have been dialed in this nationwide and florida. fat kt that our exit polls show that desantis won latino votes by 13 points and contrast that with the fact that in 2020 trump trailed biden on the latino vote by seven points, that is a 20 point spread, a huge spread. >> absolutely. i think, again, like i said before the democratic party has a lot of work to do with the latino vot

desantis at 54.2. they're close with each other, right? there's rubio. there's desantis. and then in 2020 there's joe biden. so we'll get into it later tonight, but i just wanted to put it out there right now, that people like desantis, if he's going to get into this race for the primary battle there for 2020, he's going to be making a big case about latinos, cuban americans, appealing to democrats who live in a blue county like miami-dade. okay, let's leave there. let's go to georgia. herschel walker, the trend i see is this -- now, there are two candidates not on the board. one is picking up a point and a half, the another point. two and a half. i want to share this with the audience. here's walker statewide at about 30%. now here's kemp and abrams. so again, you can see the difference, right? 47.4. and he's right around 43. he stayed at that margin, guys, of about 4 to 4.5, no more than 5, but a separation of 4.45 points between what kemp is doing in the governor's race and what herschel walker is doing in the senate race. maybe in the end that matters. just keeping an

desantis is de future. front cover of the new york post today. trouble in arizona with voting machines in maricopa county around phoenix. long line as the polling station and results in the vital senate race and governor's race delays. unacceptable says gubernatorial candidate kari lake. very different from florida where desantis' landslide was reported by 9:0. we'll -- 9:30. we'll have more results throughout the show. let's get to the money the day after the election. the dow down about 160, down on the s&p 64 points low for the nasdaq. expecting gridlock the market rallied before the election and looks like we have gridlock and stocks are not really moving that much. crypto moving big time and south. bitcoin is close to a two year low and crypto exchange is bailing out its competitor ftx. bailouts mean instability and bitcoin back to $17,000 a coin. you got to stay with us, folks. we may be able to call one of the close senate races during our show today. it's wednesday, november 9, 2022, the day after "varney & co." is about to begin. ♪. st

not desantis, but defuture. talk us through. >> yeah. this is a conversation that republicans, clever, yes, have been having over the course of the last year and a half. every time i have gone to a cpac gathering or other conservative conference there have been straw polls down that show donald trump leading the pac but ron desantis right there seen as the heir apparent to the trump mantle if you take trump out of the straw polls. everything is unofficial but at the same time it's a good gauge of how the republican party is thinking what its future might look like. still in the trump image, but maybe not with trump himself as the standard bearer. we also know that that's probably what the former president's mindset is too because he's out giving nicknames and voice to the schism that has been in place between desantis a former ally of his and trump. this is something i've been hearing about from sources but the fact it's being litigated put the nickname out for desantis a few days before desantis' re-election here, a day before trump cam

so a fight is about to break out, between donald trump and ron desantis does the base of ron desantis go to trump, is it a trump base? or is it you a different new base? how does this play out? >> trump is originalist, so base belongs to trump, and they are the ones that have embraced desantis all at the same time, with that being said it is going to be interesting because you are seeing donors basically moving into the desantis camp, what i want to say too early at this point to see how this relationship between desantis and trump is going to play out. trump is the incumbent, he is one that if jumped into race will be in the lead however, desantis obviously, made a big splash last night made it very clear that he could be a strong contend inner 2024. maria: no one talking about mike pompeo mike pompeo another factor, could have a three way fight. >> ron desantis, donald trump. >> that is if one jumps in my understanding is that we will see, we could see desantis announcing to run for president, that is going to open the floodgates pompeo, nikki haley. >> desantis, trump pompeo, thick

ron desantis won miami. he's also speaking tonight at the republican governor's association saying oh, talk about trump. who won last week? who was the winner? the republican winner cynthia lummis was asked whether she would support trump in 2024. the reply was who is the current leader of the republican party? oh, i know who it is, ron desantis. do you agree with her? >> well, ron desantis is a very heavyweight player for the republicans. he has done an excellent job as governor of florida. i served with him in the house for a couple of terms. he is widely respected. people think he can raise the money. he is the counterpunch certainly to donald trump, which is why trump is starting to slam him with, you know, innuendos and name-calling, that type of thing, something trump has a history of doing. but the problem that desantis will have should he get in is there may be other candidates who get in as well. trump has his base. he has at least a 30 or 35% hard-core following that are not going to leave him unde

and it wasn't just the post saying desantis is defuture. by the way, to call him a mediocre republican or -- howard: average. liz: he flipped miami-dade county. howard: it was a huge win. >> and that's impressive. that's impressive, and democrats and republicans should look at that and say, you know what? he didn't get down in the mud with trump. even the day before the election, trump is trying to criticize desantis. if you want to win or not. howard: trump said on truth social that election night was somewhat disappointing but not for him personally, and then he ripped the kiss honest fake -- dishonest fake news because he said many of the people i endorsed went on to sixtily, and the media with, they are truly the enemy of the people. sounds like he's bringing back the greatest hits. >> not a bad strategy for him to take. there are many fathers to this. many people in the media, everyone in the establishment republican party, they would like to blame donald trump as a way of avoiding responsibility for their own failures. it was their jo

yes, they are really liking what they see with desantis. we have seen this before on primaries, including on the democratic side, where there are what i like to call paper tiger candidates. we don't know if desantis is one of these, where it's the party is projecting everything they want onto a candidate. desantis is every magical thing republican conservatives want right now, but it's untested. so to me i think we don't know yet, even though big institutions, media, establishment figures are rejecting trump. >> we should also note that william barr over the weekend, perhaps while he was still drafting this op-ed, said he probably would vote for donald trump again if trump were to be the 2024 nominee. >> good point. >> let's keep this in perspective. jen, we have also heard over the weekend a number of other republicans, hailey, pence, the list goes on suggest that, hey, we might challenge donald trump for president in 2024, but trump certainly has a ceiling as a candidate, it would appear, but he's also got a floor. he's got a stranglehold

ron desantis on his mind. look, a governor's race, a midterm turnout is not the same as a presidential year turnout and the margins, trump did very well in florida, he actually almost set the model for how republicans can make in-roads in florida. but ron desantis, a governing vision and accomplished what he would do. >> john: and trump has said if desantis runs, there may be a fight. he told fox digital i would tell you things about him that won't be very flattering. i know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife. which brought jason to say this about a potential battle royale between the two. >> i don't think republicans want to hear in-fighting between donald trump and desantis and right now donald trump keeps taking shots at ron desantis that, is not going to play well. >> john: republican party did not live up to the red wave, and now you have potentially two of the biggest republicans out there potentially fighting with each other? is that good for the party? >> i don't think it's good fo

trump calling desantis an average governor with great pr, claiming desantis came to him in desperate shape back in 2017 with low approval, bad polls and no money. trump adding he fixed desantis' campaign which had completely fallen apart. sources close to former president trump called his attacks on desantis a miscalculation and described trump unhinged in the wake of tuesday night's election results. one of trump's top aides said, quote, his overreaction of desantis is making things even worse. >>> wall street is welcoming the latest news on inflation. a new report shows inflation cooled off slightly last month still energy prices are still more than 17% higher than last year. food prices nearly 11% higher and rents up 7.5% over last year. the federal reserve is expected to race interest rates again next month in hopes of bringing down prices. >>> federal officials are reportedly investigating the collapse of a top crypto currency exchange. ftx was valued at $32 billion the last year but crashed in the last few days prompting a halt on customer withdrawals. some withdrawals resumed

>> cory: i'm not really sure on whether it is a trump versus desantis ticket or trump-desantis ticket or who putses their hat where. i am blessed in florida we have another four years with a great governor who has went against political science and opted for medical science. he knew not to shut down our schools, we are third highest in education in the country and second lowest in taxes in the country. by leaving blue states people are coming to florida looking for america to be more like florida. >> todd: looking ahead to future election, what lessons can republicans waking up in states that they did not see the success they did in florida, what lessons can those republicans learn from ron desantis, from cory mills, from marco rubio as to how to campaign better >> cory: voter contact is the big deal, we walked probably i couldn't tell you how many miles, knocked 150,000 plus doors since march of 2021, when it came to events, we've done hundreds of events and given town halls and meet-and-greets and had big rallies. one thing ron desantis has been great at as have marco rubio, rather

myself or ron desantis. if ron desantis gets re-elected, a woman's right to choose will be gone in the state of florida. they won't have that respect, they won't have that decision to make anymore. if on the other hand i get elected five days from today, a woman's right to choose, i will sign an executive order on thefirst day of my administration to protect a woman's right to choose. >> the other thing, i spent a lot of time on the radio this morning, calling in to radio stations and encouraging people to vote. i called a lot of black and caribbean stations. the message i got back from the hosts was alarming to me. the lines in communities of color are short. people are not lining up. people are not coming out and voting in the kind of numbers you're seeing in places like georgia, in places like pennsylvania. and one of the things that a friend of mine who is down here works in politics told me, she's hearing a lot of fear among black voters that even if they have never done anything wrong, never had any ki

desantis: well, thank you so much. you know, over these past four years, we have seen major challenges for the people of our state, for the citizens of the united states, and, above all, for the cause of freedom. we saw freedom and our very way of life in so many other jurisdictions in this country wither on the vine. florida held the line. [cheers and applause] we chose facts over fear, we chose education over indoctrination. [cheers and applause] we chose law & order over rioting and disorder. florida was a refuge of sanity when the world went mad. we stood as a citadel of freedom for people across this country and, indeed, across the world. ryam: well, governor ron desantis there. let's hear from our reporter in florida, net adelphi. >> florida has now cemented its status of a wright state. the story of the election is both of enthusiasm and turnout from democratic voters. that really helped republicans take former democratic strongholds like miami-dade along with palm beach and broward county. and of course, all ey

jerry: you mentioned ron desantis, stunning victory in florida. does the record he has of governing in florida, and an electoral victory, does that make him your favorite or should he be the favorite in 24? >> i am not making selections. don't know what the field will consist of but he's a formidable candidate, very strong. the divide between wins and losses tuesday were not between conservatives and moderate. ron desantis is as conservative as anyone, the governor of georgia is as conservative as anyone. these guys were independent of donald trump, demonstrated competence, consistency, were not obsessed with a loss in the past and did extremely well. whether or not ron desantis becomes the nominee he's providing a good example for republican leadership. jerry: they are pointing the blame at mitch mcconnell for not supporting enough candidates with finance even though mitch mcconnell did support jay the vance in ohio while he gave much more money than donald trump but how do you answer the criticism that in these critical races, the campaign funds

he's got rubio and desantis on the run, they're scared to death. we begin with a huge win for election integrity. they've now officially borrowed undated that misstated absentee ballots from being counted. in accordance with state law, both follow the law. shocking. good news for the critical upcoming election in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. one week from tonight, it'll be election night right here in america. and the critical midterms, you got it, are seven days away. we begin with good news tonight for the g.o.p. along with an important warning to all voters across the country. that's coming. first the good news. in a shock to many democrats, general don baldock has now taken a one-point lead over the incumbent, maggie hassan, new hampshire senate race. this would be huge republican pickup. two purple hearts for the general baldock by the way. he and governor sununu will be on the show together on thursday night. in the state of washington, tiffany smiley, republican, is not a dead heat with patty murray according to trafalgar. michigan gove

you think ron desantis would? >> there's lists of candidates, 12, 14 folks -- >> neil: they would run regardless? >> i think so. there's a lot of questions about donald trump right now. it's a long way away. i'm sure we were sitting down talking in june of 2015 and "washington post" article about five reasons why jeb bush was going to be the next president of the us. donald trump had not entertained a run yet. we'll see who captures the hearts and mind of republicans. republicans have to focus on the races in front of them. donald trump doing stuff like this is disruptive to what self trying to do right now. focus on the two issues that are most important to voters. inflation and crime. democrats are making the case this is about a threat to democracy and democracy will be over should republicans take over the house and senate. >> neil: ken griffin, the billionaire investor, has committed to ron desantis. he likes the idea of him possibly being the presidential candidate. i'm sure there might be others. where do y

and they prefer desantis to trump. jerry: one thing ron desantis did in florida was carrie data county, which just doesn't happen and tells you a lot about -- was carry dade county, which tells you a lot about the breadth of his appeal. so regardless of what desantis is thinking today, the pressure on him from important quarters in the republican party to get in the race and run for president is now going to be huge because people who want an alternative to donald trump right now see him as the horse to ride and that's going to be a hard pressure to resist. jackie: trump is a loser. it is a fact. i mean literally of loser. i'm not trying to be disrespectful. i wouldn't do that. [laughter] he won in 2016 even though he lost the popular vote but every cycle since then, he has lost in -- lost. in 20's party lost both houses of congress. in 2020, he lost. he indeed lost. now in 2022, republicans did not do as well as they thought they would and he is a factor, if not the biggest factor. jerry: so let's assume ron desantis

desantis didn't answer them. they were going after him and saying they didn't do -- he was in the hospital with his wife during her cancer treatments. they were trying to make it sound like something else. they will try anything just to get the idea out. it's a sup ldub limbal message o get someone somewhere -- because it's not like false accusations are not profitable, thanks for investigations, right? but you get someone to come forward to say it. you can't denounce them because there's truth to it because this tv series wouldn't pick it up. it was a blatant attack on him, on president trump, on the republican party. and once again, marriage, being straight white male in this country is open game. if he was gay and they ran he was drugging women, this would be a huge issue and the show would be cancelled. >> greg: what do you make of the gay character? that was the most stereotypical flamboyant treatment like watching barney miller in the '70s when they had gay characters come out. you knew he was gay because h

ron desantis, maga world loves ron desantis. i have got friends in florida who are nonpolitical family and they are torn by this because they love their governor but they love donald trump. so when they see trump going after desantis they are like what is he doing? why is he going after him? and it's like watching your parents fight. you know, and so going after him preemptively in this ways is very counter truckive and makes trump look desperate and makes trump look weak and it -- who knows, what the outcome will be. but it's not a strong play for him. >> bret: but does it prevent him from moving forward on november 15th in mar-a-lago for announcing this race, mara? >> that's a big question. he seemed like he has been teasing this announcement, but, it looks like he is a three-time loser. he lost, you know, in 2018, 2020, now a lot of the kind of mini me trump candidates that he endorsed also lost. this just seems like a very inopportune moment to say you are running for president why other than getting the spotlight back on yo

star desantis it victory in florida. desantis is the future. because it looks like he will win by about 20 points, which is extraordinary given the fact that back in 2018 he beat gilliam by just 33,000. desantis won everywhere in the state. and in particular, in notable democrat strongholds and we have been talking about this over the last week, in miami-dade county, which joe biden won by 85,000 points, ron desantis will win by close to double digits. >> ainsley: it is a ruby red state. desantis is welcoming anyone who wants to escape liberal state. conservatism works there. there he was with his family last night. once the nation's premier state in 2,000. then george w. bush won the presidency boy a margin of 500 votes. >> steve: i remember that. >> ainsley: florida does not have a single democrat holding a statewide office. here was his victory speech last night. >> after four years, the people have delivered their verdict. [cheers and applause] >> freedom is here to stay. [cheers and applause] [chanting] [chanting u.s.a.] >> we saw freedom

desantis had done. but when you see it all lined up, all the stuff that ron desantis has gotten accomplished as governor, you can understand why the number is so big where he beat charlie crist by 19 points. >> ainsley: why do you think he did so well in miami dade? >> steve: because i think florida freedom. i don't think you feel like you're walking in voting as a party. it's like you're voting how i feel as somebody living in florida and i think they like what he has done especially during the pandemic. >> ainsley: yeah, we also are going to have anna paulina luna on, an air force vet from pinellas county and she won there west of tampa, charlie crist's old seat when he decided to run for governor. she was endorsed by president trump and by ron desantis. >> brian: right. by the way maya flores did lose last night and lashed out at independents and republicans who didn't come out. >> ainsley: they changed her district. >> brian: and made it tough to do that so we see if she bounces back. carley shimkus

ron desantis will defeat charlie crist again. margins are eye-popping, we'll let brit talk about that. >> that is a huge number. for governor ron desantis in pennsylvania that will have a long lasts -- >> florida. >> that brit will fill us in on, looking at pennsylvania governor race shapiro with a strong lead against d mastriano this is too earlity call. >> oklahoma governor race too early to call, joy hoff meister against kevin stitt. >> and not enough data for race in maine. governor mills has lead against predecessor. we'll see what happens there paula page. >> massachusetts, project healthe healy will be next governor, and that goes to democrats. >> fox news decision desk governor sununu has lead in new hampshire. >> connecticut democratic governor lemonte with lead against candidate bob. >> and not enough data, governor dan mckee, will take his first full term in ofrhode island. >> and pritzker with a lead in illinois to go democrat but too early to call. >> alabama, governor ivy will win a second term in the state of alaba

the one that's for trump and desantis or the one that's for desantis and trump? [ laughter ]. >> well, i can't say either one is right i'm not for either one of those guys. it's very interesting to see people paint desantis as trump without the baggage. he's trump without a lot of things. he's also trump without the charisma. difficult for ron desantis to run as well. i don't see how ron desantis maximizes news coverage. i don't see how he maximizes the news cycle in the same way that trump does. and that was part of the brand. >> unfortunately we have to leave it there. thank you, tylers. >> yep. >> all right. i have go do my workout where i kick the satellite dishes off the neighbor's roof. let's wrap it out with i'm not done. >>> everyone on spaceship earth must know by now, i'm host of "tooning out the news," did that just happen, late night show sparks. and this week's episode is straight fire. first up, senator ben sasse and i prank called the cops as bo rat. then, you ever seen an alfredo water slide? candice cameron bur ray is about to. oh, yeah. i got ta

to run against him who might have a chance it would be desantis. but i don't think he is as good a candidate as people make him out to be. the fact is he has a lot of popularity. the problem is the only way he could beat trump would be in a one-on-one race, which he -- and in a race where basically he goes after trump hammer and tong. it would be a brutally divisive race. even if desantis managed to pull it off he'd have a good chunk of the republican base angry at him. i don't think it is surprising that donald trump toned it down today about desantis. if i were advising donald trump i'd say, look, moron. you go after desantis he is the guy who is going to win next tuesday by 10 or 15 points. if you go after him again you'll look like a jerk because the next day the story is going to read, ron desantis wins landslide victory despite trump attack. so that is why he has toned that down. i can guarantee after next tuesday you'll hear more of that language. >> cnn reported that the justice department is considering special counsel if trump runs in 202

so desantis 2024, i'm onboard. ashley: get onboard. as someone said earlier, neil, they want him to be cloned. well, that can't happen. but it'll be interesting to follow that a particular story, as we know. again, a red wave maybe in florida but not across the rest of the country. neil: the big everybody issue is that you've hat -- bigger issue is that you've had 28 ice cream cones, and you're still thin and fit. i don't know how you're pulling that off. [laughter] ashley, thank you very much. he's the best. another guy that's really good with at what he does, membership roh shell, macro trends family partner, floridian by nature as well. it's interesting, mitch, you and i have lived through florida being a blue state, end then it kind of veered back to purple, then a little bit red, then purple, now back to red are. but this seems convincing red right now. what do you think? >> i think it's about policy, neil. you know, two things happened in the last two years, you had a lot of transplants -- present company included -- that were fl

. >> ron desantis would have my vote? >> why? >> because ron desantis is more in touch with reality with the people and he's more -- >> what's reality? what's the reality he's more in touch with? >> he's better spoken. he understands what voters are going through. he understands. >> reporter: so, yasmin, voters here recognizing that they may have a choice in front of them a few years from now or months from now. but they've got a choice in front of them right now. the reality is that in both the governor's race and the senate contest, the republican incumbents in each of those races have been polling consistently ahead. republicans that i've talked to feel good about where they are in florida at this point. but it's going to be fascinating come election night and once these results shake out, florida and ohio have been talked about for a long time as states that were once swingy, that are getting redder. what's fascinating is the fact that tim ryan is in a lockstep contest there versus val demings here challenging marco rubio for

desantis in florida who, it was a tsunami. he won miami-dade county which is a county biden held by tens of thousands of votes. lisa: is there a larger takeaway? each different state is a different story in terms of what the electorate message. with respect to florida, what is the message being fed with the fact that miami-dade is turning republicans so decisively for the first time in decades? anne-marie: this is what ron desantis leaned into, it has to do with the pandemic. he said he kept businesses functioning and your light continued and look where we are now. the rest of the country has followed what he would say is florida's lead but during that time, it was very controversial. jonathan: if there was a proxy war yesterday over the last month, it was in pennsylvania. kailey: this was an incredibly tight race coming into election day and the democrat john fetterman pulled it off, 93 percent of votes have been counted in pennsylvania and he held more than 50%. the reason why pennsylvania is such a bellwether state is becau

and ron desantis as his vice president. ron desantis is a good man. i think he has done a lot for florida. but he is so young, i think if he steps into second place, you know -- but of course, donald trump has his powers. you know, there's talk that he might go in to be speaker of the house. well, at least that is not being president. host: before we go, with mike pence, is it a specific quality he has? is it something he did well vice president or in his time in the senate that attracts you to him? caller: well, he stood up to trump and did not do it trump wanted him to do. and he is a good man. and i think that is what this country needs. just santos will have his -- just santos will have his heyday. i am sure he will make a wonderful president. but i am not so sure right now is the right time. host: donna there in florida, giving us her thoughts on who currently leads the republican party. the republicans in the audience, that is what we are asking you in this hour. gary in fletcher, north carolina, you are next. caller: i am going to do two things

and trump had this warning for desantis. if he did run, i will tell you things about him that won't be flattering. i know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife who is really running his campaign. trump himself teased a major announcement coming next tuesday

and desantis' calculus is contemplated by trump. early polling showing desantis easily beats trump. desantis leads by 13 percentage point in iowa. 15 points new hampshire, 26 points in florida, 20 points in georgia but that's head to head with trump. and there's no guarantee that trump gets desantis alone one-on-one. trump was able to win because he had a relatively small but loyal group of supporters and very crowded debate stage. i remember being at the reagan library for the second gop debate of the 2016 cycle, there were 15 candidates. so many on that debate stage, that it had to be split in two. the more the merrier for donald trump but not for ron desantis. as he decides whether to run for president in 2024, desantis has to be worried more than just the size of the field. the only venue for a fight with donald trump is a steel cage. desantis might win the battle and lose the war. there's no guarantee if you beat trump, he embraces you. trump is for trump. not for a party, not for ideology. it's hard to envision desantis vanquishing trump. remember, trump is the guy who crashed