trump. you have seen the polls. even if it's not a rematch poll, it's an indisputable lack of popularity, lack of approval of a single president. people don't have confidence in his competence. i think the democrats have a hard time. they would have liked to have been able to say that joe biden, step aside, you finally got the brass ring, thank you very much. you did it. go down in history and you did it but please step aside and take credit for one more historic. if we could elevate and elect your female vice president, no one can say that. if people don't want to work for her, what about the rest of us? they simply cannot say to him that you're vice president is waiting in the wings to do the job. they don't want her either. i think it scrambles the democratic field almost immediately. >> how does it change as far as the house majority? >> i think there is an important document that the republicans will issue. i think it was smart for them to put it out and it tracks with the america first

with donald trump. he says i challenge anybody to make the argument that you can trust the word of donald trump. ron desantis expected challenge trump, ron desantis or someone like him, said brooks, adding others that he would support our texas senator republican ted centucky senator rand paul. we need someone that is honorable,ne with good character, someone the ameri people respect. might disagree with, but they respect. ron desantis fights for the foundational principles that make america the greatest nation in the world's history. a one-time donald trump supporter, mo brooks of alabama. al.com. let's hear from donna in vero beach, florida. hello. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i would like to see mike pence run for president. i think he's an honest man. i think he would do well for our country. and ron desantis as his vice president. ron desantis is a good man. i think he has done a lot for florida. but he is so young, i think if he steps into second place, you know -- but of co

in the trump lawyers filing, a new defense of donald trump has emerged in the case. this is a completely new defense formally stated defense and writing. saying that the very fact that donald trump possessed the documents means that they were by donald trump's definition personal documents. it also means that they were by donald trump's definition automatically declassified simply by his choice to possess them and bring them home. the trump lawyers wrote, it is the presidents designation -- not the appearance or contents of a given document -- that is determinative. president trump did not put forth documentary evidence of his designation decisions, because his conduct on equivocally confirmed that he was trading they materials in question as personal records rather than presidential records. president trump's classification decision between presidential and personal was made through action: his decision not to supply the records to the national archives, confirms that he treated them as personal records. and to reiterate, president trump took this course of action w

, trump, trump. trump back on twitter, what east he going to call mike pence, his nickname. so we're seeing right away this is like giving insuring right before the holidays. and, you know, for chris to make that proclamation, i'm sure it's well lended -- intended, but it's going to be difficult to not cover trump because he is a master of dominating the news cycle. howard: when he says he wants to return to down the middle journalism, says let's cut through the noise so when trump slips through something consequential like a coup, isn't he revealing what he thinks about the former president? >> right. so he wants to return the network to its core principles of straight news regardless of the ratings, he says -- howard: yeah, that's great. >> with the next statement, how he feels about the former president who is now a presidential candidate. will he apply the fair and balanced? i don't know. that affects what the anchors and reporters will feel. howard: there is myth, i think, that the media got tru

what made me a fan of trump was the fact that nobody was a fan of trump. not of the political parties work. and insight to see who is lining up with who. and i believe what a lot of republicans but i guess i don't want to be for them because i'm more of an independent really want to see is we don't want to see political, the next leader of the republican party being attacked, attached all the old epeople. publishes and though paul ryan's, all the people that stopped trump from succeeding the first two years and i would imagine that would be you know, what we want to do. so whoever that's going to be we just want to wait on this one. the power struggle atthis stage is beneficial or harmful or how would you characterize ? >> it's official but i do like to see is a power struggle because that means they're not all falling in line. i don't like how they're like a, the democrats are all doing the same thing. but there just blindly doing the same thing, we're supposed to have discussion, arguing with each other. we're supposed to figure out who comes up with the

trump wrote in part, news corp. which is fox, the "wall street journal," and the no longer great "new york post." >> he was on the cover as trumpty dumpty. trump wrote he has the advantage of sunshine where people from badly run states up north would go no matter who the governor was, just like i did. the former president went on to claim his endorsement of desantis helped win the florida governor's race in 2018. trump accused desantis of quote playing games by not answering questions about 2024. he wrote, the fake news asks him if he's going to run if president trump runs, and he says i'm only focused on the governor's race. i'm not looking into the future. trump wrote, well, in terms of loyalty and class, that really is not the right answer. despite the growing calls from within the republican party to break with donald trump, the former president is moving ahead with what he calls a special announcement next week. trump's team sent an invite to the press yesterday, teasing the event at his mar-a-lago estate in pa

, but trump come about trump." unless trump stands down, you have one of the craziest quotes i have ever seen from somebody who is a lawmaker who says, what is your plan for 2024? and the person says, dead serious, "our plan is to hope that he's dead by then." no, this is a quote. >> it's a quote. >> trevor: they are saying this. we don't have another way, we don't know what to do. >> it is crass, it is depressing, but it also goes to the passivity of what these folks are doing. someone else will take care of the problem. even now, no one has spoke up. all of the dash like i said, all of the criticisms of trump in private. so i just don't think -- and these are weak people. these are people who have sold whatever they have sold. they have given up for the price of submission. as lindsey graham says, if you don't want to be real, you are in the wrong business. at a certain point, you start to ask yourself, is it worth it? >> trevor: yeah, it really illuminates i think many of the things that are wrong with american

florida's governor is another problem for trump, a clear alternative trump was lacking in 2016. in 2016 trump won early primaries with a small share of the vote because he faced a crowded feel. he won new hampshire with 35% of the vote, not nearly enough to win in a head-to-head race. while other candidates like mike pence or mike pompeo could run, they don't have desantis' electability argument. desantis won re-election in florida by a whopping 19%. plus, no party has nominate add previous presidential election loser since republicans tapped ricks ard nixon in 1968. many gop voters don't accept trump lost and believe his false claims about the last election. trump has a lot going for him including the loyalty of republican voters. is he the front-runner? i don't quite buy it. i would say he and desantis are like co-favorites. >> thank you, nate silver. >>> the roundtable is next. ack. aah, it's a good day to cough. oh, no! bye, bye cough. later chest congestion. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! hmmm, ok. not coughing at yoga? antiquing not coughing? not coughing at the movi

about trump's new white house bid. >> we need, as a party, to move past president trump. >> trump is dragging the party down. he's >> cost us the last three elections and i don't want to see it happen a four time. >> michael genovese, is president of the global policy institute at loyal mount university, he joins us now from los angeles. great to have you with us. >> good to be with you rosemary. >> so what's your reaction to donald trump announcing a third bid for president so early in the game? and in the wake of his massive midterm losses with many in his own party questioning his credibility? >> well, you know, the initial part of the speech was very true. the teleprompter, don, drab, dull. about 30 minutes into the speech. he started to find his stride again, the old donald trump, the perpetual motion machine. category five storm. full agreements, and resentments, and self pity. he said i'm a victim, add another part he said i've been persecuted. but there were a couple of things that may have gone unnoticed, that may be important. one is, i didn't notice any republican party le

in many ways today is donald trump's low point. it's only up from here because there is a lot of buzz about ron de santis, i think at the current time. and a lot of concern about the way wasn't what it was and the donald trump contributed to it. ignoring of course, positive results in ohio and north carolina and elsewhere. so it's only up from here for donald trump and has the insights run public. and richard, there is debate, of course, among republican circles, about whether or not a trump candidacy is good or bad for the republican party. but let me ask you, is trump announcing he will run in 2020 for good or bad for democrats? well again, i think there's debate there too. i mean, i think a lot of democrats would pray that donald trump would be the republican nominee, because again, he lost by 3000000 votes in 2016 the last by 7000000. there's no telling how many votes you would lose by in 2024, and if the poultry indication he would lose. but the fear is that if he didn't get elected unchecked by the prospect of having to face

trump again in 2024. even as he himself admitted that the doj probably has the basis for, quote, legitimately indicting his former boss. i'm just fed up a man of these establishment republicans who served under trump, enabled him for years, and then distance some selves from trump in order to sell a book, but still will not rule out supporting began in two years time. i am fed up with the cowardice and cynicism. >> look, honestly, it is not just folks trying to rehab their image that are displaying this cowardice. look at paul ryan, take a listen to what he had to say. he is out there, he is also trying to sell a book, he is with -- listen to what he said this morning about why he will not support a third trump presidential run. >> i am a never again trumper. why? because i want to win, and we lose with trump. >> he wants to win, and they cannot win with trump. not that trump is a bad person who caged children and separated families, or banned muslims for country, or fanned the flames of racism and antise

bush and president donald trump. you resigned after the 2020 election, when you broke from president trump over his 2020 election fraud claims. this week, donald trump announced that he will seek the republican nomination again to be president. and i wonder, what was your reaction? >> well, i made it clear in my book, over a year ago, that i didn't think he was the right person to lead either the republican party or the country forward. and i would hope that he stepped down. so i was disappointed that he announced. >> he's facing unprecedented federal, state, and congressional investigations. do you think he's running to insulate himself from the investigations? >> i think that could be part of the reason. but i think he, you know, he has a monumental ego, and he doesn't want to go down in history as a loser. and he also would like to get revenge on the people that he feels didn't give him his due. >> you said he doesn't want to be seen as a loser. but the 2022 midterm elections had him on the ballot in absentia in m

trump don't take trump serious. bro, he announced it from the crib. he announced he running for president when he was upstairs in his drawers, he ran downstairs real quick, do this president thing. he didn't even change's logan. he's doing it to get rid of all of the old maga merch from last time. i brought three boxes of maga has for democracy. plus, the other thing trump knows he can't beat desantis. look at desantis, look at that man, look at that man. them are some bad bitch boots right there. trump could never. trump, he got the conservative vote up top, he got this this be 35 there. but desantis look so good in the boots, trump might try to grab him by the pussy. >> trevor: let's get to the traffic, roy. get to the traffic. >> here's the thing about elon musk. can we talk about elon musk for a second? supposed to be traffic. >> every day, he sending out an email telling all the employees to step it up. a sidebar, if i worked at twitter, i just wouldn't open my emails. stop opening your email if you work at twitter. it's like divorce. you got to

trump will be. as long as trump is on stage, there's no such thing as an after trump. they're not willing to break with him on january 7th, 2021 despite the attack on the capitol, despite his own lies about the election that led to the attack on the capitol. they are not willing to abandon him then, what would make them abandoned him? well, you're right, when he becomes an albatross, when they see him as a loser and not a winner, when they see him causing them more harm than good, that's the only moment when you see republicans just away. the question is whether or not enough republicans to. he still has an awful lot of support among the base, and a lot of republican officeholders and political figures are nervous about doing anything to activate him. they don't want to aggravate that base. i member in an interview once, a republican senator did not like donald trump, said why is it that you don't say anything. they did a poll in my state, and 88% of my republican constituents and don't -- support d

so again, this is not something unique to to trump the trump administration. he simply doing things here or did things here that that have produced similar results when other presidents have done them. yeah, and also think even if not, everything goes to the workers, which there's a lot of evidence that a lot goes to the workers, you know half america or shareholders their owners of these companies and their pensions are presumably benefiting that something we stress quite a bit on how much people's pensions were increasing during the trump administration and these are workers throughout the economy might not be the poorest of the workers, but they're certainly workers in the economy there. also a big debate. i wanted to sort of hear your take on this on the buybacks that occurred with these texts. can you talk a little bit about that? i don't i don't i don't think i get into that in the book the buyback debate. so no i i i don't get into that now. okay. well, i think i think also that was misguided a little bit because if you have a buyback that's just better

trump could be indicted. in an exclusive interview from meet the press, the former president mike pence arguing americans want to move past the trump investigations. >> no one is above the law. but i would hope the justice department would give careful consideration before they take any additional steps. >> you just heard from josh let herman reporting. joining me now is andrew weizmann. a former fbi general counsel who previously served as a lead prosecutor in robert murrell there's a special counsel investigation. he's at the english senior fellow and where you lost school and the author of where law ends, inside the mueller investigation. thank you so much for joining me today. >> glad to be here. >> so, i want to ask you, on november 14th, you tweeted, quote, times up, doj. the rule of law requires trump to be held to account, as others have been for like crimes. it's been over 14 weeks since the mar-a-lago search and many months since the doj investigation began. timely action is needed. now, i ask you t

, which is a trump signature move. that was the moment that i think it became clear that trump knew that these folks were going to come to him, that he was going to continue bending them to his will even out of office, that they needed him in their elections. but the degree to which the entire party has turned itself over to promoting things he's saying about 2020 that are just not true, that have been demonstrated as not true over and over again, and that the majority of the voters in the party don't seem to care. it's -- it's shocking. >> there are reports that trump and his allies will challenge the election results in the midterm elections in the state of pennsylvania, in the senate race there. the arizona gubernatorial candidate has suggested that, you know, she may or may not accept the results. >> right. >> is this just the downstream effect of donald trump's warped reality? >> i think that it is a new reality. i think that it is republicans believing that they need him to be on their side, no matter what happen

donald trump jr. was secretly telling trump's top aide, chief of staff meadow, quote, we have multiple paths. we control them all. was that bluster? or an admission? well, our report is going to track how that was the plot, several paths to overturn the result or steal the race. we count at least eight distinct plans, some were legal. we mark them in green. some are legally debatable marked in yellow, but most of them you will see tonight turned either unconstitutional or criminally illegal. these are the big, bad red plots to steal the race, to stage an illegal coup and we will show you they spanned weeks and sometimes months. and after all the documents and testimony, it can be hard to see the entire alleged criminal conspiracy without seeing these plots on this actual time line. so let's focus right now on those first two, lawsuits and installing trump electors in biden states. now, initial preparation for electors is generally legal and lawsuits are legal. trump began with these legal long shots b

this comes after james announced a civil suit against trump, three of his adult children, and the trump organization. and in his suit, trump appears to be asking a florida judge to restrain the new york attorney general from being able to get a hold of his assets in the state of florida. trump had previously sued james in federal court in new york. but a judge to reject. we'll see what happens with this one. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. and now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> >> good evening, alex. i'm glad you reported on that settlement today, especially including the famous donald trump's 2016 vote of how he never settles. when in fact, as litigation history has a lot of settlements, even before trump university, where he just kind of gave up and paid people off. >> it's what he does. >> yeah. >> he settles. it's also a great window into his adherence to the truth. >> exactly. thank, you alex. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you. we have breaking news tonight in the federal criminal investigation of donald t

donald trump was told by mr. ornato who relayed it to mark meadows, not just that they were armed, but what they were armed with. this seems like a vital witness for the congressional probe as well as doj's. >> that's 100% right, nicolle. so, there's kind of two state of mind issues here, both politically, as well as criminally, should this become a criminal investigation. one is, what did donald trump think about the election? did he think he won or lost? and second was, what was he connection to the violence and what was he aware of? and i think you're absolutely right, the january 6th committee has done a phenomenal job with more than 1,000 interviews and all sorts of separate hearings and including the late stage interviews, even today, and that tells me they're continuing their fact-finding efforts up until the very, very last moment. and here it is looking very significant, i mean, it's not just -- clip, but also that cassidy hutchinson testified that trump was ordering the removal of the metal detectors. t

caller: trump was a populist. it's just that people, we want this country to be a goodly and godly country. that's what it was years ago and stuff. i think you just missed the mark on some things. thank you and god bless c-span. happy thanksgiving to everybody. guest: i agree with the caller that ross perot was a populist. i don't think ronald reagan wanted to go to war with iran. fortunately for him, up until the moment that ronald reagan was about to be inaugurated, jimmy carter was on the phone, securing the release of hostages from iran. the iranians despised carter and the u.s. administration so much, they did not want to announce it. reagan got some of the credit for that on his inauguration day, because it wasn't out until reagan became president. the iranians wanted carter to get no credit for that. but that aside, reagan was not a warmonger. his critics said he was. his critics were afraid that he was trigger-happy and pushing the world towards nuclear war, but not counting his support for, as i mentioned

well, donald trump has the photo feeling of trumped out, cuz in the one hand, if you don't trump in, then you're not like what you didn't hear. you didn't listen to what he said. you didn't pay attention to his body language. you didn't talk about right. we've all become truck deconstruction as we are trying to figure out what the heck donald trump is about what he's saying. did you see his left eye twitch? you just noticed that his hair was pushed to the right further, right. we're doing all this trop analysis and, and that the reality is yes, he is the creature of the media. but he's been the master of the media and having mastered the media in reality television, he understands how to push the envelope and to push the right buttons to get the media to pay attention. there has been a surge in white nationalism during trumps presidency. we saw an increase in electron denial ism, we've seen, ah, the january 6th insurrection. ah, we seen a 55 percent increase in the number of white nationals hate groups during the trump era. it's according to the southern poverty law center. when we t

the court hearing this week for trump's lawyers and the justice department was bad for trump. there was no way about it. and they are questioning from the panel, the three judge panel was why should you, donald trump, get special treatment? this is a case where there haven't been any indictments, haven't been any charges. -- but doesn't have much access to these, the materials seized. the question from the chief appellate judge was what makes you difference? the only argument trump's lawyers had was he's the former president. frankly, the 11th circuit did not seem particularly convinced by that argument. >> i want to end on this. something is coming to you, there's new reporting we are hearing about liz cheney, vice chair liz cheney, her focus, her fixation as staffers are putting it, within the january six committee, on former president donald trump. you write this, that fixation on trump has exposed in recent weeks a deepening rift on the panel, going on to say since the departed lawyers on the other teams including the, quote, blue team, zigzag emitting failures by the fbi

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desantis, not trump. tonight, on his own fake twitter platform, the ex president is -- what's the right word -- i guess, responding? he's losing it. he's always losing it. it's not anything new. he's effectively declaring war on both the murdoch media empire and ron desantis. it is a sight to behold. here to behold it with me, well tara setmayer, former republican communications director on capitol hill, sarah longwell, host of the focus group podcast. welcome to you both. i don't have in front of me the long aunt typically deranged -- scurried offered by donald trump on ron desantis. he wants to have it out now, sarah. he is ready to have it out now. he is mad at murdoch because you can see murdoch and the big wigs, the establishment, the class moving behind desantis. how does this play out? >> look, in some ways, we've actually seen this movie before. as somebody who desperately wants to be rid of donald trump, i have waited with access hollywood, with helsinki, with the charlottesville, with january 6t

i think 30% of the vote is hard-core trump. i'm not counting trump out. that would be not smart based on his record before. there is going to be a hugely contested domination and i think it's wide open. how did -- >> how to gerrymandering impact the election. >> new york, there was more favorable past that were rejected by a local court. that's one of the reasons republicans are going to have such strong performance. in florida come tomorrow election -- recollection, ron desantis came and said no. you are not republican enough. ron desantis has a lot -- has a story to tell out of this election. he did very well with a lot of elements in terms of hispanic, cubans and venezuelans as well. i think it was, the most important thing. a lot can change in politics, but is it centering now the house of representatives will remain quite competitive. the democrats if they fall short will have a chance to win it in 2024. that is a little bit unusual. it was only 2018 the first election after trump. the second after that was -- republicans were almost insulated. so th

is down there, trump himself. anchor: one of the names many figures in the republican party been throwing around in the aftermath of the midterm is of course ron desantis from florida. yet in the past he signaled he would not run if donald trump was to run again for the presidency. do you think that has started to shift, his thinking has started to shift in the aftermath of how he fared in the midterms? lawrence: again, obviously it is just speculation, but i would imagine yes, of course. i would not take on face value what a politician says in the past. his star is definitely on the rise. it is obviously the case that trump considers desantis already a threat, we have seen that in recent messages coming out from trump. he is directing his ire at desantis himself. so yes, it is very possible desantis would decide to run against trump and no doubt many people in the republican party would welcome such a move. anchor: we saw what one term of donald trump looks like, where he packed the supreme court, we know what th

they come across signs that say trump everywhere, no trespassing, trump, trump, trump flags everywhere. you cross this line, you will be shot. it is scary, it is really scary. and, it is everywhere. i don't want to see that anymore, i want to be able to walk at my door, go grocery shopping, and not worry about whether or not i am going to get shot. a lot of violence occurred when he was in office. we do need a peacemaker, i believe biden is a peacemaker. yet, he had a lot on his plate when he came into office, and he did wait two years to get these things done. he has to focus on ukraine, of course, the war in ukraine, we cut oil supplies from russia, but, it had a lot to do with it as well. everybody is angry. >> okay, that is roxanne in maine. let's hear from dan and virginia. look to your town. >> hi, good morning, pedro and everyone. listen, i mean, really? he is going to run again? he is going to be indicted. the bottom line is the gop has lost trust while the united states of america. and now they are imploding. the midterms should show you that, and, it is continuing to implode.

trump is already doing what trump does, right. finding a way to spin these results in his -- to his benefit. he's focusing on the fact that he did put out a ton of endorsements over the course of the 2022 campaign and just focusing on those largely noncompetitive races where his candidates were successful and he's either ignoring the results in places like pennsylvania or finding blame. for instance, in the race in new hampshire, where he claimed that don bolduc, the republican nominee there, didn't focus enough on the 2020 election in his race against the incumbent maggie hassan which hassan won easily. this is all against the backdrop of what ali was talking about. he's already announced plans for a major announcement next week here in palm beach and whether or not that is still going to be to announce a race for president we have to wait and see. this is not the narrative that trump and his team were expecting to come out of the results from last night. >> if trump does announce, which i think it looks like he's going to, and i

a trump aide saying quote, people are looking at desantis to run against trump. here's another reason why. with me now nbc news capitol hill kyler spawned it elliott tally and correspondent for the washington post. it is good to see you. both ali, first, what can you tell us about the reactions specifically from republicans, from trump's inner circle following a center? >> well, look, i mean you had the quotes that our friend mark caputo got from his sources in trump world calling this an effing nightmare. that is the view from people willing to speak on that background in trump world. but the reality is that the conversations that we are hearing he had over this dinner, or that you just laid out in your introduction, trump always responds well to you anyone who is spawning over him. but there are really so few guardrails left in trump world at this point. now, for his third presidential run this could be an example of what we see going forward. and then it lands to the idea that anyone who was looking for a different candidate has reasons to want to find one now

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donald trump, donald trump. host: irene e california on the republican line. caller: yes, i am ashamed of these democrats. and i love the former democrats who have seen the light and have woken up for god, country and family. democrats, they are for destroying innocent children. our children and our schools are being destroyed by these -- by crt, by the gender reassignment, the books in these schools. these writers and illustrators, with pictures of that are pornographic and if they are destroying the innocence and youth. these people need to be in prison for child born. i do not even -- porn. i do not even want that for adults. it is disgusting what is going on in the schools, and it is hard to believe, but the proof is there. democrats represent that. how can you be proud to be a democrat and say you are american and patriotic. that's against the law. it's against god and morality. we need to return to god. and our children are at stake. there's children who have had -- little girls have had their breasts removed and brainwashed that you are really a boy, an

trump, trump, trump, trump! >> thank you very much. under our leadership, we were a great and glorious nation. something you have not heard for quite a long period of time. we were a strong nation. importantly we were a free nation. now we are a nation in decline. we are a failing nation. for millions of americans the past 2 years under joe biden have been a time of pain, hardship, anxiety and despair. as we speak inflation is the highest in over 50 years. gas prices have reached the highest levels in history and expect them to go much higher now that the national reserves which i filled up were drained to keep gasoline prices lower just prior to the election. joe biden has surrendered our energy independence. there is no longer even a thought of dominance. we are now begging for energy help from foreign nations, many of whom find us detestable. our southern border has been erased and our country is being invaded by millions of unknown people. many of whom entering for a bad and sinister reason. you know what that reason is. we will be

if you're an anti-trumper he was on the trump pence, he was on the sign with donald trump. if you want to move on completely, why would you -- what's the lane? >> it seems like there's a new lane developing. trump policies without the trump chaos and mike pence is trying to plow that lane, kind of the ron desantis lane. it's not so much never trump, we liked what he did policy wise, but we're ready to go maga without, you know, king maga. >> is that the mike pompeo lane, cia director, secretary of state for donald trump says listen -- >> one of the reasons i think we didn't do as well on tuesday is we didn't make the case that we were the trusted hands, the serious leaders who had real answers for the american people. people are starving for real leadership that is serious. they're not looking for celebrity. >> serious not looking for celebrity, i think he might have had somebody in mind there. >> and i think about this in the context of, you know, marjorie taylor greene faced the same type of primary opposition from opponents who said i can give you the trumpism. u i can g

is it the trump effect? >> it is the trump effect. we didn't know what the trump effect was going to be in the long term. we know it was not gonna be great. but i think this is one of the manifestations that not any of us was expecting. we used to run campaigns on the issues. whether we are going to protect social security or medicare. it was a long time ago. now we have this extra layer of democracy protection, on top of the other issues. and a lot of us have seen kari lake. and that infamous interview that she did on that network. where she said i will only accept the results if i won. we are in some dangerous times. and it's only the beginning. >> how dangerous? are you concerned about local violence? >> absolutely. i do believe that 99.9% of voting incidences for people are safe. and they are accurate. but absolutely, i mean you've got some of the oath keepers that are monitoring absentee ballot boxes in the states. i've been working with some secretaries of states, and in some of the key elections. and they are putting a lot of m

but that's not on trump. he, in fact, you invites that. as you just said, they take validation from this. that he does not condemn nick fuentes, or the things nick fuentes has set. and i think -- the people who agree with nick fuentes are saying, see, he's one of us. he believes what we believe. >> this is a reasonably easy thing to the nets. we've heard from some gop senators, some gop governors who are condemning what trump did. but why are we hearing from a publican leadership on the hill, peter? >> well, the people who showed, susan collins, mitt romney, they're the same ones who voted to convict him at the second impeachment trial. they've already broken with trump over the last year and a half and they feel empowered to continue to criticize him. what's really interesting is -- mike pence being one example of that, mike pence was reluctant to criticize former president trump on most things. but you're right. we've seen this before. we saw this with charlotte spark. we sought after january 6th. we've seen this time and again, where th

when trump was elected, he said we have a psycic connection to trump and they had that all along. it's not just psychic now. there's actually a physical embrace. >> there's a physical embrace and they actually literally tried to overthrow the government for him, mara. it's not as if white nationalists just popped up when trump came along. there have been whites in american politics from the very beginning and there were white nationalists who used to be very much in charge of the democratic party. they became the dixiecrats and then they became republicans. these people have always been with us, they just keep switching parties. now that they have control of the republican party, i feel like there's a collective amnesia that happens every time trump does something racist. wait a second. this is a nonexhaustive list. trump allegedly praised hitler to john kelly during his europe trip. vanity fair claimed trump's fist wife claimed he kept a book of hitler's speeches by his bed. these are old stories from the '90s. black guys counting my money, said trump, i hate it. i want short guy

do you think this analysis is largely trump's fault or is it more compact than that? >> it tickets a little bit more complex than that if her no other reason you step back and take a larger picture of things and were going to get into ron desantis more in a minute. but a lot of the candidates that republican candidates that did well, you're exactly right they show display independence from donald trump but the republican party today where they are successful there running on the issues that donald trump brought to the table and you can't separate that from the fact that you did a very good job of listenilisting these examples we donald trump clearly interfered or got into some of these elections and made bad decisions that impact bad people, that is something going forward republican voters are going to have to figure out but you can't completely separated from the fact that the issue that republicans are talking about in the issues that republicans are winning on right now are the issues that were defined by donald trump and ignored by the establishment of republican

but trump-style tv candidate dr. oz, did he do better by sucking up to trump and stumping with him on this final weekend? no. he joins trump as the loser of another election. same in the relatively independent moderate new hampshire, where you see don bolduc lost after tying himself to not only trump but fixating on obscure lies about the last election. a lot of new hampshire voters who swing back between the parties felt if this guy was obsessed with relitigating 2020 and pushing lies about it, maybe he wasn't really focused on things they care about. or go over to michigan. similar story there. many of the election deniers, who again were just echoing donald trump's conspiracy theories from 2020, i mean it's not even a conservative view give or take. it's just trying to help his weird ego. a lot of them lost. and the opponents to the maga strategy say the republicans, they blanked it up. then you have georgia headed to the second runoff. this is a state where trump's involvement led republicans to lose the presiden

sounds very trump-ian. joining us now on set is doug, former communications director for the rnc and republican strategist. also with us meredith mcgraw, national political correspondent for "politico." and back on set with jennifer palmieri. i've been dying to talk to you about this, doug. haven't spoken since the election results. donald trump was called in the new york post likened to a can of raid. he is toxic for the republican party. john said this. is he toxic? >> he's toxic to the broader public who is voting. and in the trump base, in the republican party base, there's still loyalty to him. but if you talk to members of congress, if you talk to senators, privately, and more and more publicly, they're more honest about what their feelings have been, and part of this is because if you're mitch mcconnell and you've warned about quality candidates not just in this cycle but in 2010, 2012, some of this pre-dates trump, you've seen, we've lost again, we lost the united states senate, two years ago, in pa

you saw it with donald trump. you saw it with the freedom caucus in the last couple of rounds of republican leadership, as we mentioned, with boehner and paul ryan. i am not sure that there is any dynamic that changes the in this congress. in fact, i think it makes it even worse because the republican party as a party, the values, has imploded on itself. it is now a cold party of donald trump, who has already lost the 2020 election. he lost a whole bunch of elections across the country, and as put this republican party in a place where it has no place to stand for. >> thank you for saying that. this is such an important in this two way symetry on the left side, with pelosi and -- there are less of subsided things that members want. we want a big infrastructure investment and green energy. if you say, it's a trillion, now down to a billion, you could say that's half a loaf, if we really care about getting that money out the door, every really care because it's important for what we believe in. i am not sure what th

the federal investigation into the trump 2016 campaign ties to russia loomed over donald trump and sparked a campaign by trump against the government he led for four years. he is underappreciated how those efforts by the russian government ultimately contributed to the war in ukraine and what has become the most significant american foreign policy crisis in decades. putin's assault on ukraine and his attack on american democracy have until now been treated largely as two story lines. across the intervening years, russia's election meddling has been viewed as a closed chapter, a moment in which a foreign leader set to put the u.s. against itself. another story was ukraine's efforts to establish a modern democracy and as a result its position as a hot zone of the new cold war between russia and the west. to a remarkable degree, the long struggle for ukraine was at best base known to the upheaval and scandal of the trump years, from the earliest days of the 2016 campaign and then the presidential transition, through trump's first impeachment and into the final days of the 2020 election. this

trump is much more polarizing. but, herschel walker can't avoid the trump factor. he can't avoid the fact that he was trump's handpicked candidate for this race. he can't avoid the fact that trump was instrumental in his career and all the ways that they have been delight aligned over the decades that they've known each other. but what herschel walker and and his advisers have said that physically appearing trump it's a bridge too far that we think would be problematic, so please stay away. >> for now he looks like he is playing ball on the. tia mitchell, washington correspondent for the atlanta journal-constitution. thanks for your time tonight tÉa mitchell. >> thank you. >> we have one more story for you tonight. team usa soccer fans rejoice! the team was a hard-fought victory in its world cup match against iran today. we'll have more details coming up. she hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with her cholesterol. taken with a statin, leqvio can lower bad cholesterol by over 50% and keep it low with two doses a year. side effects were injection site rea