solution right? you get the best you can at the time and then go back and try to make it better later, but do what you can when you can better to get something than to get nothing right? well. kirsten thank you so much for being with us. thank you so much for having me. i'm director of the virginia center for civil war studies. so our first speaker tonight and i'll just introduce each speaker in turn right before they speak. so our first speaker is dr. sarah jones wixel and she and her phd from the university of chicago. she's now the director of research and publications at the american historical association in washington dc. she's also an expert in the