1 00:00:16,86 --> 00:00:17,47 A long Casey 2 00:00:17,48 --> 00:00:21,96 a can and this is twenty one this week coming up next what the heck's and Hoover 3 00:00:22,29 --> 00:00:25,82 were going to sit down with the owner of Barr would cabs do the scuffs the 4 00:00:25,83 --> 00:00:30,62 phenomena of several new companies such as Goober lift and side car which have 5 00:00:30,63 --> 00:00:35,13 sprung up providing alternative driver for hire services then our panel will 6 00:00:35,14 --> 00:00:37,96 discuss what grade would you give him C.P.S. 7 00:00:37,97 --> 00:00:41,15 For educating our kids would you give them a P.T. 8 00:00:41,19 --> 00:00:46,68 For proficiency and why did gun manufacturer Beretta move its operations from 9 00:00:46,69 --> 00:00:52,05 Maryland to Tennessee Stay tuned for our panel of insiders to give you the story 10 00:00:52,17 --> 00:00:56,22 behind the story we're joined by former majority leader of the Maryland House of 11 00:00:56,23 --> 00:01:03,20 Delegates John Herson Republican activists Jerry cave former Maryland State 12 00:01:03,21 --> 00:01:08,74 Senator Jean Ross or stay tuned for these stories and more on the next twenty one 13 00:01:08,75 --> 00:01:09,20 this week. 14 00:01:28,60 --> 00:01:30,44 And welcome back what the heck's 15 00:01:30,45 --> 00:01:35,05 a nuber in German the true herb or means the ultimate but around the washing 16 00:01:35,06 --> 00:01:40,27 metropolitan area it's funny words as five Maryland area cab companies and most 17 00:01:40,28 --> 00:01:40,74 recently 18 00:01:40,75 --> 00:01:45,02 a Taxi and Limousine companies in northern Virginia have filed suit against the Gen 19 00:01:45,03 --> 00:01:45,25 X. 20 00:01:45,26 --> 00:01:51,79 Popular company called Cooper which in its Internet advertising calls itself ride sharing 21 00:01:51,95 --> 00:01:57,58 taxi and taxi alternative app to put this issue into perspective we're joined by 22 00:01:57,59 --> 00:02:02,25 lead Barnes owner of Montgomery County's largest fleet of taxicabs and for the 23 00:02:02,26 --> 00:02:06,49 record I've known lead for too many years that we both like to forget and we're 24 00:02:06,50 --> 00:02:12,12 both graduates of leadership Montgomery class of two thousand the the issue is more 25 00:02:12,13 --> 00:02:16,44 complex than why are all these companies so angry about an app that you can let 26 00:02:16,45 --> 00:02:20,74 download on your smartphone you can't write an app but you can use your smartphone 27 00:02:20,75 --> 00:02:21,15 to hire 28 00:02:21,16 --> 00:02:27,14 a private car for hire what's the issue here issues it's new it's different but the 29 00:02:27,18 --> 00:02:31,73 issue for the industry is is that this is an unregulated business this is 30 00:02:31,74 --> 00:02:35,09 a business where is where our industry a taxi industry for 31 00:02:35,10 --> 00:02:39,29 a long time has operated under very stringent regulations we have an entire book of 32 00:02:39,30 --> 00:02:41,36 regulations Hooper has 33 00:02:41,70 --> 00:02:45,95 a plain white sheet of paper they have no regulation to operate under Well that's 34 00:02:45,96 --> 00:02:49,88 a great question Leigh because the livery business has been providing vehicles that 35 00:02:49,89 --> 00:02:51,23 people can hire as 36 00:02:51,27 --> 00:02:56,32 a long history the City of London has regulated Acme carriage driver since all over 37 00:02:56,33 --> 00:03:02,40 Krom well presented legislation and sixteen fifty four yet the popularity of of 38 00:03:02,41 --> 00:03:06,92 companies such as Hoover lift side car has grown so explosively the G.Q. 39 00:03:06,93 --> 00:03:12,65 Magazine wrote this recently city by city. Goober's up in the taxi business even 40 00:03:12,66 --> 00:03:17,45 though it's rides can be pricier than cabs so what's the hook instant gratification 41 00:03:17,78 --> 00:03:22,98 I have the glamour some sex appeal it's for people who want to feel like Jay Z. 42 00:03:23,27 --> 00:03:23,58 For 43 00:03:23,59 --> 00:03:29,65 a night is that it isn't that simple is it all about perception. No it's not about 44 00:03:29,66 --> 00:03:32,19 perception it's about a free market and it's not 45 00:03:32,20 --> 00:03:37,47 a free market absolutely not because you're dealing with an unregulated provider 46 00:03:37,48 --> 00:03:41,96 providing the exact same services the taxi industry is doing but they're doing it 47 00:03:41,97 --> 00:03:48,80 completely unregulated and sound fair only what would people say is Well we're 48 00:03:48,81 --> 00:03:51,13 all we're doing is right Sharon we're just making 49 00:03:51,14 --> 00:03:55,74 a simple phone call and somebody picks up and we agree to or we agree to 50 00:03:55,75 --> 00:04:00,06 a ride what's wrong with that well it's not that simple because it's no different 51 00:04:00,07 --> 00:04:00,17 than 52 00:04:00,18 --> 00:04:04,84 a taxi cab what happens is that they set the price they determine what the driver 53 00:04:04,85 --> 00:04:10,51 is they have the vehicles that are not inspected by the local and state government 54 00:04:10,52 --> 00:04:14,37 like the taxis are their fares are set by them and it's 55 00:04:14,38 --> 00:04:19,85 a. It's not fair well as it sounds like you're concerned about 56 00:04:19,86 --> 00:04:24,07 a level playing field with the New York City taxi Limousine Commission the agency 57 00:04:24,08 --> 00:04:28,98 responsible for licensing the regulating New York City's medallion taxi cabs and 58 00:04:28,99 --> 00:04:33,75 for hire vehicles they regulate fifty thousand vehicles and approximately one 59 00:04:33,76 --> 00:04:38,57 hundred thousand drivers they shut down the operations of list because it's not 60 00:04:38,58 --> 00:04:42,68 complied with safety requirements and the other licensing pretty area so we're 61 00:04:42,69 --> 00:04:46,61 getting back to the the issue of public safety we're also getting back to the 62 00:04:46,62 --> 00:04:52,57 regulation of fares and regulations of drivers is that the issue absolutely it's 63 00:04:52,67 --> 00:04:53,55 absolutely 64 00:04:53,59 --> 00:04:59,83 a public safety and consumer protection issue the industry that is that we are 65 00:04:59,84 --> 00:05:03,50 competing with we can compete in the marketplace if it's 66 00:05:03,51 --> 00:05:08,21 a level playing field and the issue of public safety for instance the recently in 67 00:05:08,22 --> 00:05:10,28 D.C. a Couple weeks ago. There was 68 00:05:10,49 --> 00:05:13,86 a group of business men were held hostage as it were driver one 69 00:05:13,87 --> 00:05:15,81 a high speed chase through the city 70 00:05:15,82 --> 00:05:20,65 a etc In City of San Francisco sadly the death of a child by 71 00:05:20,66 --> 00:05:25,64 a of an uber driver and whoever takes no responsibility. When you download their 72 00:05:25,65 --> 00:05:30,53 app you waive any liability that you can have against them so it's absolutely 73 00:05:30,54 --> 00:05:36,05 public safety and the price gouging in the very profile of G G Q magazine where one 74 00:05:36,06 --> 00:05:42,71 of their writers. Masquerade as an over driver he talked about very candidly about 75 00:05:42,72 --> 00:05:44,67 the fact that why would somebody get into 76 00:05:44,68 --> 00:05:49,46 a cab where they don't have any idea who the driver is and more importantly why 77 00:05:49,47 --> 00:05:53,64 would the driver pick up somebody who they have no idea where they're going and how 78 00:05:53,65 --> 00:05:57,55 to control it for years crime has been an issue is that one of the reasons your 79 00:05:57,56 --> 00:06:02,51 industry isn't regulated industry Well I think has many reasons why our industry is 80 00:06:02,79 --> 00:06:07,27 regulated as free for instance one of the reasons is public safety as mentioned 81 00:06:07,31 --> 00:06:12,48 earlier I think also because to protect both passenger and driver but what you're 82 00:06:12,49 --> 00:06:17,70 talking about then is some neighborhoods and certain zip codes because today to 83 00:06:17,74 --> 00:06:21,61 ride in any one of the loop or like services you have to have 84 00:06:21,62 --> 00:06:23,19 a credit card you have to have 85 00:06:23,39 --> 00:06:28,85 a smartphone and you have to be have the disposable income as the prices vary and 86 00:06:28,86 --> 00:06:32,86 to be in the right neighborhood we serve all of the areas of the air we can so are 87 00:06:32,87 --> 00:06:36,07 your driver's license our drivers our license do they have 88 00:06:36,08 --> 00:06:37,93 a criminal background check they have better than 89 00:06:37,94 --> 00:06:39,08 a krone background check they have 90 00:06:39,09 --> 00:06:44,22 a fingerprint criminal background background check and that's significant because 91 00:06:44,38 --> 00:06:48,75 people can falsify Dennehy but not your fingerprint as well as insurance 92 00:06:48,76 --> 00:06:53,87 requirements you won't believe it but. Seventeen state insurance commissioners have 93 00:06:53,88 --> 00:06:59,17 issued warnings to consumers about riding in these car services because they don't 94 00:06:59,18 --> 00:07:03,89 have commercial insurance you're left up to your own good luck if you have 95 00:07:03,90 --> 00:07:07,85 something happen supporters of you were saying that the real attraction is 96 00:07:08,11 --> 00:07:12,92 convenience but your industry hasn't kept up with the times how do you respond to 97 00:07:12,93 --> 00:07:18,22 that our industry does innovate has been innovative and under regulation we've been 98 00:07:18,23 --> 00:07:24,38 innovative for instance at our company you can order the taxi on an app we have you 99 00:07:24,39 --> 00:07:28,54 can order online you can text us your order you can call into our call center so 100 00:07:28,55 --> 00:07:29,41 there's quite 101 00:07:29,42 --> 00:07:34,62 a bit of that all under regulation that we've been able to do that we've got about 102 00:07:34,63 --> 00:07:38,68 one minute left in our segment and earlier said that all you really wanted was 103 00:07:38,69 --> 00:07:40,46 a level playing field what is 104 00:07:40,47 --> 00:07:46,13 a level playing field look like to you. To us what it looks like his that the state 105 00:07:46,14 --> 00:07:50,52 and local governments will enforce the current regulations that we operate under 106 00:07:50,74 --> 00:07:54,57 because we're they enforced on us every day and we respect that and we have 107 00:07:54,58 --> 00:07:58,73 operated out of that for years so if the state and local governments will begin 108 00:07:58,77 --> 00:08:04,07 enforcement of the existing regulations and our industry has been innovative is 109 00:08:04,08 --> 00:08:09,90 picked up passengers and our companies face more than fifty years and so we haven't 110 00:08:09,91 --> 00:08:13,57 you know we're going to we're going to have to wrap this up earlier you talk you 111 00:08:13,58 --> 00:08:17,42 talk to me instead about so that you are regulated by every jurisdiction in this 112 00:08:17,43 --> 00:08:21,92 area every county Prince George's MARK ARMOR in the district So is it time for 113 00:08:21,93 --> 00:08:28,43 a complete overhaul of the regulations of your industry to an area wide basis I do 114 00:08:28,44 --> 00:08:32,25 believe it is time I believe that now the technology exists so that each 115 00:08:32,26 --> 00:08:37,19 jurisdiction could be assured of compliance to their own standards and to have some 116 00:08:37,20 --> 00:08:41,70 sort of a regional operating permit Leath Accu for being here you shed 117 00:08:41,71 --> 00:08:45,71 a great light on what is an interesting topic when we come back from this short 118 00:08:45,72 --> 00:08:50,23 break our panel will comment on the ride sharing issue the changes in Montgomery 119 00:08:50,24 --> 00:08:55,10 County public school grading systems and why did gun manufacturer Beretta move its 120 00:08:55,11 --> 00:08:57,61 operations to Tennessee State two. 121 00:09:10,46 --> 00:09:15,06 So welcome back we're now joined by our panel panel you heard the comments of Lee 122 00:09:15,07 --> 00:09:21,51 Barnes What do you think of this issue of cabs and apps and whether or not this 123 00:09:21,52 --> 00:09:21,81 should be 124 00:09:21,82 --> 00:09:26,23 a regulated industry when we start with Gerri on this case is one of the rare 125 00:09:26,24 --> 00:09:29,82 occasions Rob do not have the definitive answer so I'm going to talk around this 126 00:09:29,83 --> 00:09:34,39 a little bit what's interesting is technology is very disruptive and destroys 127 00:09:34,72 --> 00:09:38,60 current business models and it looks like it's going to do the same here what's 128 00:09:38,61 --> 00:09:41,28 different are two things Number one is this is 129 00:09:41,29 --> 00:09:44,33 a regulated industry the Internet has. Destroyed 130 00:09:44,34 --> 00:09:48,40 a lot of the advertising business which is totally unregulated and the second issue 131 00:09:48,41 --> 00:09:48,85 here is got 132 00:09:48,86 --> 00:09:52,73 a lot of military issue as Mr Barnes brought up so I don't know how this is all 133 00:09:52,74 --> 00:09:58,43 going to sort out but technology destroys the old business model set up new ones he 134 00:09:58,44 --> 00:09:58,67 is in 135 00:09:58,68 --> 00:10:03,18 a very tough spot because he has regulated his live military issues and these other 136 00:10:03,19 --> 00:10:07,59 people do not so it's going to be very interesting to see how it sorts out you know 137 00:10:07,60 --> 00:10:11,48 Gene one of the one of the interesting things that Mr Barnes brought up during our 138 00:10:11,49 --> 00:10:16,27 conversation and earlier was the fact that he has rigged regulations from every 139 00:10:16,28 --> 00:10:22,14 jurisdiction in this industry he can't pick up a rider in D.C. 140 00:10:22,28 --> 00:10:28,11 For a mock Emery County unless the cab is specially sent into into D.C. 141 00:10:28,12 --> 00:10:30,02 For the pickup So is this 142 00:10:30,03 --> 00:10:35,83 a fair way of treating businesses I was shocked to hear that they were so 143 00:10:35,84 --> 00:10:42,39 restrictive in these tourist across jurisdictional areas and I think that 144 00:10:42,99 --> 00:10:48,69 your last comment and the bines last comment that there needs to be 145 00:10:48,70 --> 00:10:55,53 a regional pact among the among the Washington metropolitan area where 146 00:10:55,54 --> 00:10:58,30 there's more flexibility for cabs in D.C. 147 00:10:58,31 --> 00:11:01,91 Or Prince George's or MONTGOMERY It doesn't doesn't make sense for 148 00:11:01,92 --> 00:11:06,23 a cab driver to drive made at the Kennedy Center and not be able to get 149 00:11:06,24 --> 00:11:08,50 a pickup to go back to Montgomery County that's 150 00:11:08,51 --> 00:11:14,08 a loser but John doesn't that just sort of reinforce reinforces the idea the 151 00:11:14,09 --> 00:11:18,77 government regulation sometimes to be too restrictive and now that we have newer 152 00:11:18,78 --> 00:11:25,47 technologies. We get we can solve some of the safety issues but also deregulate the 153 00:11:25,48 --> 00:11:27,90 industry well you have 154 00:11:27,91 --> 00:11:32,21 a balance here that you have to achieve sort of surprised I'm in agreement with 155 00:11:32,22 --> 00:11:38,19 Gerry here I mean basically technology is changing this industry as it's changed 156 00:11:38,51 --> 00:11:44,97 lots of industries newspaper industry I mean that's gone the way of the 157 00:11:44,98 --> 00:11:50,61 Dodo I mean it is there are lots of things that are being changed by technology and 158 00:11:50,62 --> 00:11:55,38 this industry needs to adapt but government needs to adapt as well I mean you have 159 00:11:55,39 --> 00:12:00,50 to change the regulatory framework I agree with Gene that you need 160 00:12:00,51 --> 00:12:07,17 a more regional framework on on taxi cabs and and. Transportation 161 00:12:07,43 --> 00:12:09,38 So this is 162 00:12:09,46 --> 00:12:16,09 a changing world I appreciate where. Mr Barnes is but. 163 00:12:17,23 --> 00:12:21,62 It's got to change and we have to do that you know what was interesting was the 164 00:12:21,63 --> 00:12:28,16 same week that New York City blocked the use of lift tabs or lift the lift service 165 00:12:28,51 --> 00:12:34,93 the city of Seoul Korea also imposed restrictions on where this is an international 166 00:12:34,94 --> 00:12:40,89 issue because the livery industry has been regulated for centuries everywhere so in 167 00:12:40,90 --> 00:12:46,03 that one one of the quote the experiences I got out of Annapolis is there's turf 168 00:12:46,04 --> 00:12:50,94 wars OK There always are turf wars in the business community and this is 169 00:12:50,95 --> 00:12:52,50 a turf war I mean you've got 170 00:12:52,51 --> 00:12:58,40 a new basic service that's being provided there and they're going to battle it out 171 00:12:58,44 --> 00:13:01,92 and it's got to get died well that the last question that I asked Lee Barnes is 172 00:13:02,11 --> 00:13:02,41 what would 173 00:13:02,42 --> 00:13:06,30 a level playing field look like we're going to have to wait and see as these turf 174 00:13:06,31 --> 00:13:10,01 wars get fought in all of these different jurisdictions now let's take 175 00:13:10,02 --> 00:13:16,41 a look here in Montgomery County because education fads they come and go and one so 176 00:13:16,42 --> 00:13:21,24 want to go well maybe it was when I was in school in the seventy's. Pass Fail was 177 00:13:21,25 --> 00:13:25,61 thought to be the way to grade student performance then the reality of how to 178 00:13:25,62 --> 00:13:30,42 separate the achievers from the slackers let schools back into the measure grading 179 00:13:30,46 --> 00:13:36,50 system so why now is Montgomery County public school system proposing to revert to 180 00:13:36,51 --> 00:13:42,09 the grading as proficient and not proficient we'll start with you did I say we're 181 00:13:42,10 --> 00:13:42,53 going to start 182 00:13:42,57 --> 00:13:49,62 a huge jump. Here here's my take on this first of all I want to say look 183 00:13:49,69 --> 00:13:50,07 we've got 184 00:13:50,08 --> 00:13:54,31 a great school system with them uncanny I mean it's one of the best in the state of 185 00:13:54,32 --> 00:13:58,93 Maryland people move here to get their kids into our school system we've got great 186 00:13:58,94 --> 00:14:05,87 teachers that said what's going on here I mean you know I understand they 187 00:14:05,88 --> 00:14:10,84 need to try new things and they have that core curriculum and all that stuff going 188 00:14:10,85 --> 00:14:16,64 on but honestly you need to have something more than a P. Or a no P. 189 00:14:16,73 --> 00:14:22,75 I mean I I actually I mean A B. C. D. E. F. 190 00:14:22,79 --> 00:14:28,35 Or whatever you know you knew where your kids were and my kids went to public 191 00:14:28,36 --> 00:14:34,59 school system I don't agree with this kind of system unless there's 192 00:14:34,60 --> 00:14:40,68 a communication from the departments from the education community about why this 193 00:14:40,69 --> 00:14:45,48 makes sense and I don't think they've communicated well at all sure it's the lack 194 00:14:45,49 --> 00:14:49,41 of accountability you can't be doing that you've got it tells students where they 195 00:14:49,42 --> 00:14:52,33 are it's funny when I went to Catholic school they gave me 196 00:14:52,34 --> 00:14:57,89 a satisfactory improvement needin them says facts right and our improvement needed 197 00:14:57,90 --> 00:15:02,87 in penmanship and Portman which I'm sure that no surprise to you but I do you want 198 00:15:02,88 --> 00:15:07,38 to differ with Brother Herson on A C issue everybody says oh McGovern County 199 00:15:07,39 --> 00:15:12,01 schools are so great the pretty good but the issue is when you have 200 00:15:12,02 --> 00:15:16,96 a well educated white collar group of people who are very intelligent they didn't 201 00:15:16,97 --> 00:15:22,51 have kids that are the same and that skews our. Are results in education how they 202 00:15:22,52 --> 00:15:27,38 perform so I'm not sure that McCormack out of schools are quite as good as 203 00:15:27,68 --> 00:15:31,11 everybody thinks they aren't quite as good as they should be for the money we put 204 00:15:31,12 --> 00:15:35,07 into it but I think I think that you've you've actually struck 205 00:15:35,08 --> 00:15:39,69 a nerve here Jerry and not the fact that I was I spent most of fourth grade in the 206 00:15:39,70 --> 00:15:45,80 hallway being disciplined the real issue is accountability and whether or not our 207 00:15:45,81 --> 00:15:51,22 schools are providing the type of education that we expect I think parents wanted 208 00:15:51,26 --> 00:15:55,73 should demand the accountability from the schools and I don't think this pass fail 209 00:15:55,74 --> 00:16:00,23 or proficient non proficiency really gives the parents anough involvement I think 210 00:16:00,47 --> 00:16:04,74 the thing that lacks in most public schools particularly in the poorest cools is 211 00:16:04,75 --> 00:16:11,29 parental involvement the parents aren't. Pushing for better education and I think 212 00:16:11,36 --> 00:16:14,98 that's what's what's really wrong here and I you know I don't think I don't I 213 00:16:14,99 --> 00:16:20,27 repeat back I really think it's the tool that is that parents are looking for they 214 00:16:20,28 --> 00:16:25,53 need a tool to know how to interact with the system and a report card is 215 00:16:25,54 --> 00:16:30,88 a tool so if their report card doesn't mean anything to them then how do they 216 00:16:30,89 --> 00:16:32,92 interact I don't know I totally agree with you we've got 217 00:16:32,93 --> 00:16:34,20 a hyper competitive we've got 218 00:16:34,21 --> 00:16:38,11 a hyper competitive parental some schools are hyper competitive you know the A.P. 219 00:16:38,12 --> 00:16:42,16 Classes in the in the honors classes and all of that I can imagine those parents 220 00:16:42,17 --> 00:16:43,41 are going to be happy with 221 00:16:43,42 --> 00:16:47,95 a pass fail or proficient not proficiency system and that would be if I can help 222 00:16:47,96 --> 00:16:54,67 the TIO that sometimes folks they done done this kind of this core 223 00:16:54,68 --> 00:17:00,82 curriculum and they say now what do we do they're always looking for something to 224 00:17:00,83 --> 00:17:07,75 do and I think this is just I don't think it really has meaning it's just 225 00:17:08,12 --> 00:17:12,17 and I add on you know I mean last last week we did it we discussed the fact that 226 00:17:12,39 --> 00:17:18,39 test scores in math and in English were were failing before the third or fourth 227 00:17:18,40 --> 00:17:18,77 year in 228 00:17:18,78 --> 00:17:24,81 a row for middle school. And elementary school children and the the issue is were 229 00:17:24,82 --> 00:17:30,83 not doesn't what you can say the test that they took was what was wasn't fair but 230 00:17:30,84 --> 00:17:35,25 if they they can't read they can't write and they can't they can't learn their 231 00:17:35,26 --> 00:17:39,49 mathematics we're not we're not functioning right in the school system it's not 232 00:17:39,50 --> 00:17:43,20 just the test Gerri you're going to have to hold it because we've got one more 233 00:17:43,21 --> 00:17:46,93 topic and we've got very little time and so we're going to we're going to we're 234 00:17:46,94 --> 00:17:51,28 going to go and get we'll get to you in September Gerri are you with the barrel in 235 00:17:51,29 --> 00:17:55,37 General Assembly began its debate last year to enforce new and more stringent gun 236 00:17:55,38 --> 00:18:00,67 laws he tell you this could be the Italian gun manufacturer brought up which has 237 00:18:00,68 --> 00:18:04,54 it's put out its plant in Prince George's County dest testified that it would have 238 00:18:04,55 --> 00:18:08,40 difficulty maintaining its manufacturing facility in 239 00:18:08,41 --> 00:18:12,78 a state where it was illegal to sell most of their products now this past week 240 00:18:12,79 --> 00:18:16,54 brought announce that it was closing that plant in Prince George's County 241 00:18:17,06 --> 00:18:21,79 terminating one hundred sixty people one hundred sixty jobs are leaving again and 242 00:18:21,80 --> 00:18:27,22 it's going to move its operations to Tennessee. Jean is this 243 00:18:27,23 --> 00:18:32,47 a fair thing to do and is this just another message that Maryland is not friendly 244 00:18:32,48 --> 00:18:37,37 to business there is one thing that I learned in the legislature to quote you John 245 00:18:38,12 --> 00:18:44,21 and that is that every law that passes has consequences intended and unintended. 246 00:18:44,82 --> 00:18:50,00 And I don't know if this move by Veronica is one or the other but that is what 247 00:18:50,01 --> 00:18:55,83 happens when they have when the legislature passes meritorious or not 248 00:18:56,21 --> 00:19:03,11 legislation that affects industries or has the potential to affect business there 249 00:19:03,16 --> 00:19:07,81 they will move out of the state and this is what is happening to Parada. They've 250 00:19:07,82 --> 00:19:12,62 been in here over forty years and they're pulling up stakes and moving to Tennessee 251 00:19:12,63 --> 00:19:13,27 and as 252 00:19:13,28 --> 00:19:19,73 a result of this legislation or what they say down the road because at each case 253 00:19:19,74 --> 00:19:25,83 the pledges. Lation it isn't an end in itself it usually. Brings about more 254 00:19:25,84 --> 00:19:31,40 legislation well as as I said in the old mean read John the some of the 255 00:19:31,41 --> 00:19:37,40 consequences were forecast now if I recall you are in favor of the the gun 256 00:19:37,41 --> 00:19:42,52 legislation that was passed so is this a fair consequence and is 257 00:19:42,53 --> 00:19:48,04 a really has one hundred sixty jobs in the scheme of things aren't that great but 258 00:19:48,05 --> 00:19:49,87 is so is this 259 00:19:49,88 --> 00:19:56,21 a good trade off for that legislation I totally agree with what you just said. I 260 00:19:56,22 --> 00:20:02,77 think this was very predictable in terms of the result. I don't think it's 261 00:20:02,78 --> 00:20:09,45 a major impact on the economy. Bretta needs to make their business decisions in an 262 00:20:09,46 --> 00:20:15,17 appropriate way they've made it. I don't think it's I mean this is Maryland has 263 00:20:15,18 --> 00:20:21,63 a dynamic economy I mean that is growing and I don't think we should you know 264 00:20:22,31 --> 00:20:22,86 take 265 00:20:23,57 --> 00:20:29,48 a decision about one hundred sixty jobs and change what we believe is the right 266 00:20:29,49 --> 00:20:32,89 public policy and that's what we decided but it wouldn't we get excited if one 267 00:20:32,90 --> 00:20:37,01 hundred sixty new jobs are coming American and I think one hundred sixty new jobs 268 00:20:37,02 --> 00:20:41,82 come to Maryland every day and we should be excited about it every day and I just 269 00:20:41,83 --> 00:20:45,22 honestly don't believe that we should actually make 270 00:20:45,23 --> 00:20:48,95 a decision about what we think is the right public policy based on 271 00:20:48,96 --> 00:20:52,67 a hundred sixty jobs Carrick's I didn't spend much time or any time in the 272 00:20:52,68 --> 00:20:58,09 legislature thanks to the good citizens of this now about Spanish business so 273 00:20:58,10 --> 00:21:03,44 anything that people make decisions and business they make emotionally and justify 274 00:21:03,45 --> 00:21:09,34 them logically there is so much information of businesses that have left this state 275 00:21:09,55 --> 00:21:13,36 the only thing the state is benefiting from of its proximity to Washington D.C. 276 00:21:13,37 --> 00:21:19,23 In the federal government. But they've insulted gun owners gun manufacturers they 277 00:21:19,24 --> 00:21:24,75 insulted barrel. With this bill and lay the groundwork for more onerous but rather 278 00:21:24,76 --> 00:21:29,18 is making military weapons for our military people primarily and they as much as 279 00:21:29,19 --> 00:21:32,11 said we don't want you in the state get out as 280 00:21:32,12 --> 00:21:36,20 a bad message but it's consistent with what Merrill is all about which is dripping 281 00:21:36,21 --> 00:21:40,24 are citizens of the Second Amendment getting non-business as they have nothing to 282 00:21:40,25 --> 00:21:43,96 do getting business out that have nothing to do with federal government they left 283 00:21:44,16 --> 00:21:48,31 their headquarters here because they still have to lobby and talk to the federal 284 00:21:48,32 --> 00:21:53,02 government but the blue collar jobs blue and not everybody can not everybody is 285 00:21:53,03 --> 00:21:56,68 suited for white collar jobs guys some people are suited for blue collar and 286 00:21:56,69 --> 00:22:01,42 Maryland's letting those all go will arrive in amounts what they're doing but but 287 00:22:01,43 --> 00:22:05,69 but it really gets back to the fact that the people who have have elected the 288 00:22:05,70 --> 00:22:09,84 Geralyn General Assembly both in the house in the House of Delegates in the Senate 289 00:22:10,32 --> 00:22:13,24 and you know their representatives decided 290 00:22:13,28 --> 00:22:19,60 a policy issue here and whether we like it or not that you know the policy was 291 00:22:19,87 --> 00:22:25,16 to instill in force stricter gun laws Yeah and it has 292 00:22:25,17 --> 00:22:30,17 a negative impact which I pointed out on the show many times. And I won't break you 293 00:22:30,18 --> 00:22:36,14 and now I will reject you have left the gun laws and less murder rate and marijuana 294 00:22:36,15 --> 00:22:40,37 stricter gun laws and stricter gun rights and now we got one hundred sixty US jobs 295 00:22:40,58 --> 00:22:45,89 you know what year and you have the last word for the show before we take our 296 00:22:45,90 --> 00:22:50,09 summer break when we come back from this short break Parting Shots. 297 00:23:02,37 --> 00:23:07,76 And welcome back now with Parting Shots Gerry cave I'm going to follow up on what I 298 00:23:07,77 --> 00:23:09,20 just said and it's a bit of 299 00:23:09,21 --> 00:23:15,27 a stretch. Terrible problem in the Ukraine. Not President Obama's fall 300 00:23:16,19 --> 00:23:20,79 not helping much but it's not as fall the problem in the Ukraine. It is the 301 00:23:20,80 --> 00:23:24,77 responsibility of the people in the Ukraine when they made 302 00:23:24,81 --> 00:23:30,77 a very foolish decision to give up their nuclear weapons they were billeted to 303 00:23:30,78 --> 00:23:36,22 defend themselves and count on their territorial integrity to be maintained by 304 00:23:36,23 --> 00:23:40,70 other countries that was the mistake they made and they're paying for that now it's 305 00:23:40,71 --> 00:23:44,05 a far more complicated issue and I'd love to talk about it but it's 306 00:23:44,06 --> 00:23:48,12 a good lesson for people in Maryland when you strip people stripped citizens of 307 00:23:48,13 --> 00:23:52,34 their Second Amendment rights they lose their ability to protect themselves that's 308 00:23:52,35 --> 00:23:56,99 a big issue and it lives on the micro level too thank you your generous and your 309 00:23:57,00 --> 00:24:03,25 Parting Shots I want to shout out to the people who are in this canny trying to 310 00:24:03,26 --> 00:24:06,90 help out in the war in the Middle East the Gazette did 311 00:24:06,91 --> 00:24:10,97 a great article this week about Robert Katz who's 312 00:24:10,98 --> 00:24:16,19 a firefighter he's going over to Israel and is standing in during the war to take 313 00:24:16,20 --> 00:24:22,12 care of Israel you know during the time when their fighters are actually in 314 00:24:22,73 --> 00:24:28,56 Gaza those firefighters are moving out and then the churches in the Montgomery 315 00:24:28,57 --> 00:24:34,27 County area who are who are trying to find hospitals in Gaza and trying to help out 316 00:24:34,28 --> 00:24:39,54 so you know we think these things are far away from us but they're not far away 317 00:24:39,55 --> 00:24:44,87 from us and we need to help and I shout out to the Gazette for highlighting it and 318 00:24:45,23 --> 00:24:49,53 to the people who are actually doing it so that's my thank you Judge Gene Ross for 319 00:24:49,54 --> 00:24:53,10 your Parting Shots in June the Washington Post ran 320 00:24:53,11 --> 00:24:58,30 a story about the primary election in the candidate and at the very end of the 321 00:24:58,31 --> 00:25:04,59 story the tenant Governor Brown was quoted as saying that he would take this hill 322 00:25:04,65 --> 00:25:09,91 meaning the primary that he would win the primary election and then go on to take 323 00:25:10,38 --> 00:25:16,88 the tiny molehill and that has still stuck with me and I 324 00:25:16,89 --> 00:25:22,35 just it's just an example of why. Hundred twenty five Repub 325 00:25:22,44 --> 00:25:27,33 a thousand Republicans in Montgomery County plus sympathetic Democrats and 326 00:25:27,37 --> 00:25:34,19 independents must turn out for the general election and vote. And we must get 327 00:25:34,44 --> 00:25:37,66 we must show them that we are not 328 00:25:38,33 --> 00:25:42,34 a minor molehill Thank you Jane and thank you panel this is great we have some 329 00:25:42,35 --> 00:25:46,57 great topics tonight I want to thank the viewers for joining us and we'll be back 330 00:25:46,58 --> 00:25:51,28 with new hard hitting discussions in September but in the meantime you can follow 331 00:25:51,29 --> 00:25:56,21 us on Twitter like it's someplace book and you can really watch Jerry on You Tube 332 00:25:56,58 --> 00:26:01,46 as we watch for your little heart desires for twenty one this week. He could.