1 00:00:16,79 --> 00:00:22,06 Hello my name is Casey aken and this is twenty one this week coming up next how is 2 00:00:22,07 --> 00:00:26,91 the Maryland Health Care Exchange worked Star asked for one point six billion in 3 00:00:26,92 --> 00:00:32,88 new spending Leggett refuses to sign pay increases for county council and our late 4 00:00:32,89 --> 00:00:37,80 night jokes hurting Obama our panel of insiders will give you the story behind the 5 00:00:37,81 --> 00:00:43,09 story we're joined by Democratic activists Sam Statman chairman of the Montgomery 6 00:00:43,10 --> 00:00:49,55 County Republican Central Committee Marco for Republican activist Gerry cave and 7 00:00:49,56 --> 00:00:54,04 Democratic activists Susan health Miss Stay tuned for these stories and more in the 8 00:00:54,05 --> 00:00:55,73 next twenty one this week. 9 00:01:12,64 --> 00:01:16,70 Much attention has been paid to the difficulty that individual Marylanders of head 10 00:01:16,92 --> 00:01:21,70 in trying to register for health insurance in Maryland and other people across the 11 00:01:21,71 --> 00:01:26,16 nation according to the Capitol because that dot com Maryland health care and rolls 12 00:01:26,20 --> 00:01:27,18 is proceeding at 13 00:01:27,19 --> 00:01:32,16 a glacial pace as of October twenty third only three thousand people have been 14 00:01:32,17 --> 00:01:36,33 rolled in the Maryland health connection an average of only one hundred thirty nine 15 00:01:36,34 --> 00:01:41,94 people per day in addition there is talk that it will take two years to fix all the 16 00:01:41,95 --> 00:01:47,77 problems associated with the implementation of the law Sam is it really that bad 17 00:01:48,32 --> 00:01:51,68 now Casey it's really not that bad and I don't know where your figures are coming 18 00:01:51,72 --> 00:01:56,50 from what is this paper you're reading The Washington Post said today that eighty 19 00:01:56,51 --> 00:02:01,14 six thousand people have eroded rolled into health care in Maryland and nationally 20 00:02:01,15 --> 00:02:04,49 over three hundred thousand in the first thirty days I think that's 21 00:02:04,50 --> 00:02:09,37 a remarkable record and after say that I must admit to you that it has been 22 00:02:09,38 --> 00:02:14,73 a nightmare trying to get people in rolled on the program but you know but the 23 00:02:14,74 --> 00:02:16,48 clinches that are coming out are more 24 00:02:16,49 --> 00:02:21,66 a result of trying to court date the subsidy from the federal and the tax 25 00:02:21,67 --> 00:02:26,22 implications because we're going to the Maryland system eventually it has to 26 00:02:26,23 --> 00:02:30,38 communicate with the Fed and it's not well what do we what we really know is that 27 00:02:30,39 --> 00:02:34,92 they're lies damn lies and statistics and all of that all of the the statistics 28 00:02:34,93 --> 00:02:39,08 that are coming out whether it's from the federal government or other sources can't 29 00:02:39,09 --> 00:02:41,43 be proven it seems that people that have been 30 00:02:41,44 --> 00:02:45,93 a rolling maybe enrolling in Medicare Medicaid or some other form of health 31 00:02:45,94 --> 00:02:49,24 insurance we're not getting true statistics Well that's I think is 32 00:02:49,25 --> 00:02:50,83 a fault of the media and I'll give you 33 00:02:50,84 --> 00:02:56,39 a perfect example of that yesterday on T O P I was just absolutely boiling because 34 00:02:56,40 --> 00:03:00,70 the media and media was reporting that if you do not roll with the program you are 35 00:03:00,71 --> 00:03:05,82 going to be fired ninety five dollars and that is absolutely not true it's ninety 36 00:03:05,83 --> 00:03:08,33 five dollars or one percent of 37 00:03:08,34 --> 00:03:13,40 a family's adjusted gross income based on your tooth. Thousand and eleven attacks 38 00:03:13,79 --> 00:03:18,32 so I think that the media doesn't report it properly I think that the government 39 00:03:18,33 --> 00:03:23,15 itself is not reporting it properly because it out fessing up when they have errors 40 00:03:23,16 --> 00:03:28,25 and mistakes and all of that leads to mistrust but we have to remember the purpose 41 00:03:28,26 --> 00:03:34,21 of this program is to insure people that are not insured and this has been going on 42 00:03:34,66 --> 00:03:39,03 now so going back to the forty's with Roosevelt and I think that the Obama 43 00:03:39,16 --> 00:03:40,49 administration has 44 00:03:40,50 --> 00:03:45,96 a tremendous at least great accomplishment in be able to intervene there it will be 45 00:03:45,97 --> 00:03:50,39 it's too soon I always say if anybody has accomplished anything yet more what's 46 00:03:50,40 --> 00:03:54,58 your opinion Sam You just missed one of the keep flaws to this right this problem 47 00:03:54,59 --> 00:03:58,96 we're having right now which is that the program has blown up the individual market 48 00:03:59,32 --> 00:04:03,22 so while you're talking about people being able to sign up you also got to take 49 00:04:03,23 --> 00:04:06,62 into account the people who've lost their health insurance that they were promised 50 00:04:06,63 --> 00:04:10,57 that they'd be able to keep and are not getting the coverage that they really want 51 00:04:10,83 --> 00:04:14,32 because the government says you're not smart enough to figure out what kind of 52 00:04:14,33 --> 00:04:19,51 health insurance you need so we're taking many many many steps backwards and taking 53 00:04:19,52 --> 00:04:24,10 a few steps forward and that's not progress well as that is absolutely part of the 54 00:04:24,11 --> 00:04:30,23 misinformation that's going out no one ever said it like that whatever said problem 55 00:04:30,24 --> 00:04:35,71 is that you have hell individual health plans out there that have benefits. Without 56 00:04:35,72 --> 00:04:41,46 coverage without help without psychiatric benefits some of it on prescription drugs 57 00:04:41,69 --> 00:04:47,44 some without maternity benefits and the idea of the Affordable Care Act is to 58 00:04:47,45 --> 00:04:51,36 provide those benefits so a person is giving really is to be given 59 00:04:51,37 --> 00:04:56,85 a choice well I am but I'm not the only person who's probably tried the system 60 00:04:57,00 --> 00:05:02,29 since I actually have done it I am well on my way to finding it but and I think we 61 00:05:02,30 --> 00:05:07,69 need to tamp on the conversation about how many people have signed up because if 62 00:05:07,70 --> 00:05:12,74 you are the people like me west to pay for my own insurance the insurance money is 63 00:05:12,75 --> 00:05:18,09 not due till December for January why in October or November would I pay for my 64 00:05:18,10 --> 00:05:21,24 insurance or should I want to you were able to register Yes Did you get 65 00:05:21,25 --> 00:05:24,85 a quote I'm yes I have some different quotes and I made 66 00:05:24,86 --> 00:05:29,67 a phone call today because I currently pay full fare at through the Maryland Health 67 00:05:29,68 --> 00:05:34,94 and surance program I called them today and they said well you can stay with us so 68 00:05:34,98 --> 00:05:38,81 you know I have more options and I thought I did better you are the options are 69 00:05:38,89 --> 00:05:44,05 more expensive or less expensive it depends on if I want to switch to an H.M.O. 70 00:05:44,26 --> 00:05:50,18 Which before I had never been eligible for oh that's the difference and I know what 71 00:05:50,19 --> 00:05:55,38 I want but before when I was before I purchased my insurance or the Maryland Health 72 00:05:55,39 --> 00:05:59,37 Insurance Program I was denied coverage all over the place because of 73 00:05:59,38 --> 00:06:05,35 a preexisting condition that no longer is a factor so if I want to go with an H.M.O. 74 00:06:05,39 --> 00:06:08,32 I'm going to save a whole lot of money Gerri we only have about 75 00:06:08,33 --> 00:06:13,00 a minute left in this segment more yard we have we're going to don't need We're now 76 00:06:13,01 --> 00:06:18,72 learning the second half of Obama's slogan yes we can but no you can't keep your 77 00:06:18,73 --> 00:06:23,53 health care plan no you can't get it for less you can't get it for the same amount 78 00:06:23,54 --> 00:06:28,27 of money and you aren't going to be able to keep your privacy with it it's just 79 00:06:28,28 --> 00:06:32,23 like all the other things he's not accountable on any of these issues and it 80 00:06:32,24 --> 00:06:37,43 doesn't work here you radioactivity and. Get the insurance you want you presume I 81 00:06:37,44 --> 00:06:42,05 couldn't get the insurance I had by law you know this is what I already went 82 00:06:42,06 --> 00:06:46,05 through this we got it we got to wrap up this topic and go on but I think what this 83 00:06:46,06 --> 00:06:51,09 demonstrates is that this entire program has caused a lot of confusion there's 84 00:06:51,10 --> 00:06:56,18 a lot of mis misinformation out there and nobody has the confidence of knowing what 85 00:06:56,19 --> 00:07:00,99 their what is actually happening to them with respect to health insurance I But 86 00:07:01,00 --> 00:07:06,00 we're going company well I'm good I'm glad we're going to find out that there are 87 00:07:06,01 --> 00:07:10,42 a lot of people that only Roy white so apps like Medicare and Medicaid just say all 88 00:07:10,43 --> 00:07:15,50 this stuff. Sam's knowing this is denying that there won't be 89 00:07:15,55 --> 00:07:21,02 a period of uncertainty but the question is that there were experiencing as whether 90 00:07:21,03 --> 00:07:27,22 or not the uncertainty that's been introduced is worse than than what we had before 91 00:07:27,23 --> 00:07:30,87 he gassed the three hundred thousand people that currently have coverage and they 92 00:07:31,38 --> 00:07:36,04 did in the last thirty days see here we go we don't know if we don't know if those 93 00:07:36,05 --> 00:07:40,29 are people that that add coverage and didn't I think got new coverage or whether 94 00:07:40,30 --> 00:07:44,05 whether or not these are these are people that didn't have coverage that now have 95 00:07:44,10 --> 00:07:47,23 a whole the bottom there is Sam ought to have Jay Carney's job he's been 96 00:07:47,24 --> 00:07:51,38 a better spent on of the car to go anywhere we've got to wrap it up because we're 97 00:07:51,39 --> 00:07:54,89 going to look at the County Council in their pay raise that they gave for 98 00:07:54,90 --> 00:07:57,98 themselves last week they gave themselves a seventeen and 99 00:07:57,99 --> 00:08:04,00 a half percent pay raise and oh. What happened this week the county executive 100 00:08:04,01 --> 00:08:09,77 decision said he was going to sign the bill shoes and the kids was angry about this 101 00:08:09,78 --> 00:08:13,75 because they thought they had the wheels greased with county executive to get this 102 00:08:13,76 --> 00:08:19,37 thing passed Well this is another time where the press war was ahead of itself the 103 00:08:19,76 --> 00:08:25,33 county executive did not veto what he is not going to sign it so we will go into 104 00:08:25,34 --> 00:08:30,58 law by default and when he made that decision the council voted eight to one you 105 00:08:30,59 --> 00:08:33,25 can count you only need six votes to override 106 00:08:33,26 --> 00:08:38,68 a veto so the executive said I have reservations but I know it's not going it 107 00:08:38,69 --> 00:08:42,63 doesn't make any difference so it is the law it really is going to say he just 108 00:08:42,64 --> 00:08:47,52 didn't want his fingerprints on this pay raise isn't that the fact the bottom line 109 00:08:47,53 --> 00:08:53,58 is is that he said he had concern writes Jerry it's up political theater he doesn't 110 00:08:53,59 --> 00:08:57,39 want his fingerprints on it that's clearly the case but this is really 111 00:08:57,40 --> 00:09:01,53 a wonderful opportunity for liberals to do something they don't like to do since we 112 00:09:01,54 --> 00:09:02,31 have some needs 113 00:09:02,32 --> 00:09:06,10 a monk Army county going to regret to require money they're getting an extra thirty 114 00:09:06,11 --> 00:09:09,75 thousand dollars I think it would be lovely if some of them would donate some of 115 00:09:09,76 --> 00:09:13,53 that money back to the county and show that they can actually want to get things 116 00:09:13,54 --> 00:09:17,58 done with somebody else's money but maybe even their own but this is spread out 117 00:09:17,62 --> 00:09:22,70 over four years and someone several people have brought up the point that if we 118 00:09:22,71 --> 00:09:27,81 want to get truly qualified people into that drought has to have permanent 119 00:09:27,82 --> 00:09:30,03 employees that I got a car so it's 120 00:09:30,04 --> 00:09:33,39 a decent you know I don't use it I answered Yes All we need new people on the 121 00:09:33,40 --> 00:09:38,79 council what I'm saying is now present Pat's future if you want to get the best 122 00:09:38,80 --> 00:09:43,82 people you have to pay them something and we voted several years to have to have 123 00:09:43,83 --> 00:09:48,23 a lot like capitalism particularly mother your parents now years ago we voted to 124 00:09:48,24 --> 00:09:53,56 make their positions full time positions so they are not considered part time you 125 00:09:53,57 --> 00:09:58,62 say full time or lifetime full time positions Gerri and the bottom line is they 126 00:09:58,63 --> 00:10:04,33 work very very very long. Ours and I have no problem with Susan and Susan they get 127 00:10:04,39 --> 00:10:10,84 paid more now that every single state legislator in the legislature or in the 128 00:10:10,85 --> 00:10:15,29 country I noticed some of those legislators only get together once every hell but 129 00:10:15,30 --> 00:10:20,13 you're all for not get California senators have districts that are the size of 130 00:10:20,14 --> 00:10:24,81 McGovern re County and they get blasted can we now can we come back to the basic 131 00:10:24,82 --> 00:10:29,30 question and the basic question is did I claim to have the right as 132 00:10:29,31 --> 00:10:34,08 a county executive showing leadership in doing what he did and the answer to that 133 00:10:34,09 --> 00:10:39,35 question is absolutely He's the executive he makes the decisions of the council 134 00:10:39,36 --> 00:10:43,90 wants to override them that's his business but at least I claimed it was being 135 00:10:44,15 --> 00:10:47,73 fiscally responsible and making that if you can be fiscally responsible he would 136 00:10:47,74 --> 00:10:52,12 have vetoed it and he didn't deny he didn't veto it so that's not leadership though 137 00:10:52,13 --> 00:10:56,19 as we were going to leave it at that gentlemen and lady when we come back from 138 00:10:56,20 --> 00:11:00,93 a short break there is more money for school construction and how is Obamacare 139 00:11:01,44 --> 00:11:02,69 hurting Obama. 140 00:11:16,96 --> 00:11:21,39 Ed welcome back even the county executive will not support the pay raises for the 141 00:11:21,40 --> 00:11:26,62 county council he is supporting my school superintendent Joshua Starr and his 142 00:11:26,63 --> 00:11:32,34 request for them to still one point six billion dollars in capital improvements see 143 00:11:32,35 --> 00:11:36,34 up stores proposal is one hundred eighty five million dollars over the current 144 00:11:36,35 --> 00:11:42,00 amount being allocated is it necessary it's absolutely does Siri especially in our 145 00:11:42,01 --> 00:11:47,89 down County our schools are all bussed to get to see we need more schools we need 146 00:11:47,90 --> 00:11:53,96 the money we need to go to the state and get it and again I think that the meeting 147 00:11:53,97 --> 00:11:55,88 that the executive had with 148 00:11:55,89 --> 00:12:00,37 a members of our legislature to good out to Annapolis to get our fair share which 149 00:12:00,38 --> 00:12:05,63 we have now. Got in the past is well overdue Why Baltimore she has so much money 150 00:12:05,64 --> 00:12:10,80 going into their school system versus McGovern County it's just terrible and we pay 151 00:12:10,81 --> 00:12:14,70 more money and I think week you know when you break it to have presented to wise we 152 00:12:14,71 --> 00:12:17,76 should get about seventy eight percent more from the state that we're currently 153 00:12:17,77 --> 00:12:24,45 getting jury or isn't it possible that there are other means to achieving the same 154 00:12:24,46 --> 00:12:28,05 in what if what if the county adopted 155 00:12:28,06 --> 00:12:32,70 a voucher program so that people would have greater choice we wouldn't need to 156 00:12:32,71 --> 00:12:38,20 build all of these schools because the private market would satisfy the demand we 157 00:12:38,21 --> 00:12:42,69 already have that issue I mean our county is the same size as Fairfax and they 158 00:12:42,70 --> 00:12:46,45 educate thirty thousand more kids on the same budget that we do because 159 00:12:46,46 --> 00:12:49,77 a lot of our students their parents choose to go to private school but the issue 160 00:12:49,78 --> 00:12:54,92 with they wasted so much money you know the little parish school that I went to was 161 00:12:54,93 --> 00:12:57,41 built in the fifty's that school still there what 162 00:12:57,42 --> 00:13:00,20 a curse which was the public school has been rebuilt and 163 00:13:00,21 --> 00:13:03,17 a contractor told me they're going to have to redo it again in ten or fifteen years 164 00:13:03,18 --> 00:13:09,95 because it's not and here's the phrase designed and built to last and it has eight 165 00:13:09,99 --> 00:13:14,84 or nine trailers behind it this design problem they don't have enough schools they 166 00:13:14,85 --> 00:13:18,38 don't build them well enough they waste the money and then they need it and if you 167 00:13:18,39 --> 00:13:23,92 think Maryland is going to allow Montgomery County to keep more of their money for 168 00:13:23,93 --> 00:13:25,44 their schools that is 169 00:13:25,45 --> 00:13:29,57 a level of wishful thinking and I just can't imagine why don't we just increase the 170 00:13:29,58 --> 00:13:34,51 number of students part per classroom instead of instead of trying to build new 171 00:13:34,52 --> 00:13:40,53 buildings the cost to support the build it's not just the capital improvement cost 172 00:13:40,69 --> 00:13:45,52 it's the sustainability of the heart of it I don't think any of us want to increase 173 00:13:45,53 --> 00:13:49,47 sizes in the and the elementary school I think all of us like having 174 00:13:49,76 --> 00:13:54,84 a low ratio of students per teacher but one of the issues that sets my gummy candy 175 00:13:54,85 --> 00:14:01,68 apart here is the need for East salt and other. Special needs 176 00:14:01,69 --> 00:14:06,21 that we have with our large immigrant population Jerry talks about you know 177 00:14:06,22 --> 00:14:08,24 spending money well we have 178 00:14:08,28 --> 00:14:13,98 a need in this county that sometimes we don't even acknowledge an end Sam alluded 179 00:14:13,99 --> 00:14:19,34 to it in down county we have a very large immigrant population there and as 180 00:14:19,35 --> 00:14:20,43 a result we're having 181 00:14:20,47 --> 00:14:25,15 a level thousand new students come on board in the next ten years we are to 182 00:14:25,19 --> 00:14:30,60 capacity and we need more space at the root of the problem goes to the school board 183 00:14:30,69 --> 00:14:35,08 and the leadership of the school board for the last twenty years especially the 184 00:14:35,09 --> 00:14:37,08 downtown area we build 185 00:14:37,09 --> 00:14:43,43 a really great school enrollment decreases at for some reason we have the inability 186 00:14:43,44 --> 00:14:49,07 to use those buildings until the population comes back and we can go back into the 187 00:14:49,08 --> 00:14:55,83 school we tear them down. We sell them we fill them up with other 188 00:14:55,87 --> 00:14:59,91 institutions that use them and we don't recount if you're going to does it doesn't 189 00:14:59,92 --> 00:15:04,95 that sound very I got it I do have your score underscore the point that because 190 00:15:04,96 --> 00:15:09,78 when there are fluctuations of population with the model that is being followed 191 00:15:10,37 --> 00:15:16,57 building major capital structures and then then seeing them go to waste years later 192 00:15:16,72 --> 00:15:16,93 is 193 00:15:16,94 --> 00:15:22,16 a is an old model that needs to be changed we need more innovative thinking we need 194 00:15:22,80 --> 00:15:27,98 new leadership at the school board and we need leadership within those people who 195 00:15:27,99 --> 00:15:31,74 do the forecasts of the schools who decide whether they're going to sell them or 196 00:15:31,75 --> 00:15:36,03 not and the other thing right now because of that we'll have to read we have some 197 00:15:36,04 --> 00:15:40,88 governor on our side the county executive who has been working with the Governor 198 00:15:40,89 --> 00:15:44,13 O'Malley and Lieutenant Governor Brown they're on our side we're going to get the 199 00:15:44,14 --> 00:15:49,51 money got to cut it off all right our last topic as Jay Carney well knows it isn't 200 00:15:49,52 --> 00:15:54,30 unusual for Republicans to criticize President Obama but it is never 201 00:15:54,31 --> 00:15:57,70 a good thing when late night comics start to make fun of the president of the 202 00:15:57,71 --> 00:16:02,40 United States as was the case three days ago when Jamie foundered performed 203 00:16:02,41 --> 00:16:03,15 a parody of 204 00:16:03,16 --> 00:16:08,41 a presidential news conference where the the liver punch line was just because I'm 205 00:16:08,42 --> 00:16:13,74 president doesn't mean I know everything Sam over the past few weeks the 206 00:16:13,75 --> 00:16:17,50 president's been criticized for his in attention to detail is that 207 00:16:17,51 --> 00:16:22,17 a fair criticism. No I don't think the criticism should be an it had been 208 00:16:23,03 --> 00:16:23,45 a lack of 209 00:16:23,46 --> 00:16:29,60 a tentative as to detail I think the criticism goes right to his staff I don't know 210 00:16:29,61 --> 00:16:35,39 who is how he's being advised I don't know how he gets his message out but I will 211 00:16:35,40 --> 00:16:40,13 tell you with and I'm very knowledgeable on health care and it had been involved in 212 00:16:40,14 --> 00:16:45,47 this I would been ranting and raving and stomping on his desk telling him where 213 00:16:45,48 --> 00:16:49,56 this decision was going because I could see it in the field here in Maryland not 214 00:16:49,57 --> 00:16:53,97 that far from the Capitol and he would. Made that statement I think his stack 215 00:16:53,98 --> 00:17:00,37 really has let him down OK Sam or Charles Krauthammer describes President Obama as 216 00:17:00,38 --> 00:17:02,34 the bystander president that's 217 00:17:02,35 --> 00:17:07,67 a harsh criticism isn't figure I think it is fair I think Mario Cuomo the described 218 00:17:07,68 --> 00:17:12,82 it when he said that you campaign in poetry and you govern in prose and one of the 219 00:17:12,83 --> 00:17:18,31 problems with this president is he wants to be judged solely on his intentions and 220 00:17:18,32 --> 00:17:22,50 it doesn't seem to matter it doesn't seem to be as important to deal with the 221 00:17:22,51 --> 00:17:27,46 actual consequences of governing of the mechanics of actually producing what he 222 00:17:27,47 --> 00:17:29,46 needs to do and I think that's 223 00:17:29,47 --> 00:17:34,55 a challenge for this administration many of these problems were problems that left 224 00:17:34,56 --> 00:17:39,18 right Republican because you know Democrat people could foresee the train wreck was 225 00:17:39,19 --> 00:17:43,87 coming and yet nobody was paying attention I think that thing well I know that they 226 00:17:43,88 --> 00:17:49,10 had qualified people in in the case of the health care reform I've learned that 227 00:17:49,11 --> 00:17:55,13 they had silos of very capable people working on different issues and the problem 228 00:17:55,14 --> 00:18:00,08 was there was no communications between the silos so the changes that these made 229 00:18:00,33 --> 00:18:05,19 should he and they say it's going to be thicks by the end of November we still have 230 00:18:05,20 --> 00:18:11,36 time but I do know now that President Obama's last briefing every night before he 231 00:18:11,37 --> 00:18:16,28 leaves this office that is for dinner then he comes back is on health care reform 232 00:18:16,29 --> 00:18:20,48 Well Gary go and what we want to your original point about how the comics are 233 00:18:20,49 --> 00:18:24,95 turned on Obama is completely consistent because you have to realize who wrote the 234 00:18:24,96 --> 00:18:29,82 health care plan and that was Mel Brooks he took the script from the producers to 235 00:18:29,83 --> 00:18:30,14 write 236 00:18:30,18 --> 00:18:34,61 a play that was going to fail to defraud the investors and Obamacare is going to 237 00:18:34,62 --> 00:18:39,88 defraud the American citizens because it is not supposed to work it is supposed to 238 00:18:39,89 --> 00:18:44,08 fail so they can throw up their hands and say we tried but now we need 239 00:18:44,09 --> 00:18:49,48 a single payer governing health care and that's you know it's either he's 240 00:18:49,49 --> 00:18:54,32 incompetent stupid org. It intends for it to fail and we all know I am not stupid 241 00:18:54,33 --> 00:18:54,81 show is 242 00:18:54,82 --> 00:19:00,09 a microcosm of what goes on in the political world we have Democrats against Republican 243 00:19:00,10 --> 00:19:04,16 each supporting the view of their party and what we're not focusing on which is 244 00:19:04,17 --> 00:19:09,02 a group working together to resolve the issue there were problems with Social 245 00:19:09,03 --> 00:19:13,65 Security there were problems with Medicare there's problems with Yahoo there's 246 00:19:13,66 --> 00:19:18,47 problems with Google there's problems with huge databases when you try to put them 247 00:19:18,48 --> 00:19:23,56 together to get a lot of things tied and the same bridges have to say there was 248 00:19:23,57 --> 00:19:27,74 a how it works but wasn't the thirty days the ninety day fund this little robin 249 00:19:28,08 --> 00:19:31,38 existed when healthcare with the A.C.L.U. 250 00:19:31,39 --> 00:19:37,54 Was passed and the Democrats wouldn't allow any Republican input in into the 251 00:19:37,55 --> 00:19:40,82 legislation that's that's they they created 252 00:19:40,83 --> 00:19:45,73 a mindset of we know what we're doing and we're not going to listen to anybody else 253 00:19:45,74 --> 00:19:50,21 well and I think you're wrong about that Casey I think the Republican it Congress 254 00:19:50,37 --> 00:19:53,27 and outside of Congress and in several Think tanks had 255 00:19:53,28 --> 00:19:58,81 a lot of input to the system and make changes within the system to put together 256 00:19:58,82 --> 00:20:02,34 what we have any it's like I say I mean I don't know if we're going to I mean you 257 00:20:02,35 --> 00:20:08,84 pointed out that in your an industry professional and you could spot and identify 258 00:20:09,01 --> 00:20:14,97 flaws and problems in the system from where you sat for levels away you said 259 00:20:14,98 --> 00:20:20,92 programming from on your show in the insurers but nobody else was was allowed to 260 00:20:20,93 --> 00:20:25,90 make comment on this if these people can't build the website haven't is another 261 00:20:25,91 --> 00:20:30,52 GOING TO website the website is it is a is a red hearing that is 262 00:20:30,53 --> 00:20:35,94 a distraction the real question is or Americans going to be able to get adequate 263 00:20:35,99 --> 00:20:39,81 health care and the answer is yes and they are getting analysts and there's going 264 00:20:39,82 --> 00:20:43,37 to know every day when you can make all the productions you want but look at the 265 00:20:43,38 --> 00:20:44,73 what the situation would be like in 266 00:20:44,74 --> 00:20:49,31 a year or two from now right now and have we have three hundred thousand people 267 00:20:49,32 --> 00:20:52,78 that are insured whether they had it when they. They didn't have it or don't have 268 00:20:52,79 --> 00:20:57,37 it right now they've got it at from my point of view that's three hundred thousand 269 00:20:57,38 --> 00:21:02,35 people that are not going to the emergency room to get health care and have those 270 00:21:02,36 --> 00:21:07,23 health care subsidized by Spent all running in the audio you read the second by all 271 00:21:07,24 --> 00:21:11,44 the rest of the population which raises existing health care rates that's always 272 00:21:11,45 --> 00:21:14,85 been the heart of the problem that I say well we've got to wrap it up this is this 273 00:21:14,89 --> 00:21:16,60 This unfortunately is 274 00:21:16,61 --> 00:21:21,48 a great topic we're going to be dealing with this topic for probably for the next 275 00:21:21,49 --> 00:21:26,49 six to nine months while this system sorts itself out stay tuned for Parting Shots 276 00:21:26,49 --> 00:21:26,49 . 277 00:21:33,87 --> 00:21:38,52 And welcome back to our Parting Shots saves that one. My parting shot goes to the 278 00:21:38,53 --> 00:21:45,00 media for not properly reporting the facts on the Affordable Care Act and 279 00:21:45,01 --> 00:21:50,13 hyping what is going on as you've just seen here in today's conversation and I'll 280 00:21:50,14 --> 00:21:54,87 leave you with one thought. The media has reported that if you don't sign up for 281 00:21:54,88 --> 00:21:59,90 health care it's going to cost you one hundred five dollars Folks that's absolutely 282 00:21:59,91 --> 00:22:05,41 not true the fact is is that the minimum cost is ninety five dollars and it can and 283 00:22:05,42 --> 00:22:11,42 it can cost you as much as one percent of your family's adjusted gross income I 284 00:22:11,43 --> 00:22:17,28 wish the media would stop reporting things that are not true their media go for the 285 00:22:17,29 --> 00:22:23,00 facts were on twenty one why do we know the facts A.B.C. And C.B.S. And N.B.C. 286 00:22:23,01 --> 00:22:25,27 And C.N.N. Is reporting B.S. 287 00:22:25,79 --> 00:22:30,24 Thank you Mark Ugh for your parting shot I want to return to another issue we 288 00:22:30,25 --> 00:22:35,30 talked about and that was the County Council salaries in New Hampshire the average 289 00:22:35,31 --> 00:22:36,16 the salary they have 290 00:22:36,17 --> 00:22:39,17 a legislature of over four hundred people there are only about 291 00:22:39,21 --> 00:22:44,27 a third to fifty percent larger than McGovern County they have four hundred people 292 00:22:44,28 --> 00:22:48,67 in the four hundred twenty something legislators their annual salary is one hundred 293 00:22:48,68 --> 00:22:49,08 dollars 294 00:22:49,09 --> 00:22:54,05 a year you do one hundred dollars times four hundred Actually they do the entire 295 00:22:54,06 --> 00:22:58,34 New Hampshire legislature for about one third of the salary of 296 00:22:58,35 --> 00:23:03,00 a single McHenry County Councilman thank you Mark Gerry cave your Parting Shots I'd 297 00:23:03,01 --> 00:23:03,34 like to give 298 00:23:03,35 --> 00:23:09,64 a shout out. To Paul Francis Casey who was my hero only lost in this week just 299 00:23:09,65 --> 00:23:13,50 a few days short of his ninetieth birthday he lived in the county for over six 300 00:23:13,51 --> 00:23:16,26 years was a great guy had a wonderful career in 301 00:23:16,27 --> 00:23:20,88 a car business started his own moving company and everybody that knew him didn't 302 00:23:20,89 --> 00:23:25,10 like him they loved him he had nine wonderful children and I liked hanging out with 303 00:23:25,11 --> 00:23:30,15 him so much that go invited him to marry one of them with him all Jesse. She's 304 00:23:30,16 --> 00:23:34,07 a bill to us and I am thrilled that the Montgomery County Police and the school 305 00:23:34,08 --> 00:23:39,58 system is working together to put cameras on busses the first twenty five will come 306 00:23:39,62 --> 00:23:44,83 in January with seventy five additional that will rotate between buses these buses 307 00:23:44,97 --> 00:23:51,69 will catch people who go through the red stoplight sign that goes out and the red 308 00:23:51,70 --> 00:23:55,81 lights they did a survey across the state of Maryland earlier this year and 309 00:23:55,82 --> 00:24:00,56 a thousand and seventy eight people in one day in Montgomery County went through 310 00:24:00,64 --> 00:24:05,88 the stop arms of buses this is a catastrophe waiting to happen there's going to be 311 00:24:05,89 --> 00:24:09,96 a media campaign it's going to be one hundred twenty five dollars per ticket they 312 00:24:09,97 --> 00:24:12,57 deserve it remember stop when you see 313 00:24:12,58 --> 00:24:17,72 a bus with flashing lights and the stop arm out thank you Susan and thank you panel 314 00:24:17,73 --> 00:24:20,99 for being here but I want to I want to thank the viewers for being here because as 315 00:24:21,00 --> 00:24:25,73 you can see there is passion on this show and really we are not Democrat or 316 00:24:25,74 --> 00:24:30,36 Republican we are about good government and we want our government to work best for 317 00:24:30,37 --> 00:24:32,82 all of us for twenty one this week I'm K.C. 318 00:24:32,83 --> 00:24:37,15 You can stay tune each and every week for Montgomery County participating political 319 00:24:37,16 --> 00:24:37,69 talk show.