1 00:00:02,03 --> 00:00:02,71 It's. 2 00:00:07,24 --> 00:00:14,09 One thing with one. Big 3 00:00:14,10 --> 00:00:15,07 kind of event 4 00:00:15,73 --> 00:00:21,29 what 5 00:00:21,30 --> 00:00:27,75 by one. 6 00:00:30,01 --> 00:00:35,86 Thousand One. Thousand 7 00:00:35,87 --> 00:00:41,46 one hundred 8 00:00:41,47 --> 00:00:47,32 one one 9 00:00:47,33 --> 00:00:53,61 with bank get 10 00:00:53,62 --> 00:00:59,80 one one one 11 00:01:00,43 --> 00:01:06,88 one one one one. Thank goodness 12 00:01:06,89 --> 00:01:10,96 when creating 13 00:01:10,97 --> 00:01:15,63 a welcome to the local I was subject Murphy and I will be your host flaw the next 14 00:01:15,67 --> 00:01:17,99 sixty minutes and 15 00:01:18,31 --> 00:01:23,89 a stranger just walked into the studio here your name's there unannounced yeah 16 00:01:23,90 --> 00:01:28,23 completely unprepared Yeah so good evening as usual in Hollywood I'm going to win 17 00:01:28,24 --> 00:01:31,69 this one day I'll have to Baguio out on our way out I'm going out today and I'll 18 00:01:31,70 --> 00:01:31,85 get 19 00:01:31,86 --> 00:01:37,07 a paycheck you've got to you've got to kind of learn how to put it in my back and 20 00:01:37,24 --> 00:01:41,53 you know I cry you call me I call you when we never seem to be able to pull it off 21 00:01:42,16 --> 00:01:48,13 all right but tonight but tonight we do want to thank the the heroes the men and 22 00:01:48,14 --> 00:01:50,56 women the G.I. Joe and G.I. 23 00:01:50,57 --> 00:01:54,87 Jane on that you know that are watching our program Veterans Day And oh yeah I know 24 00:01:54,88 --> 00:02:00,45 that both of us extend our gratitude and right and how grateful we are that you 25 00:02:00,46 --> 00:02:04,89 have served this country great. Tree and protect we the people you know and I know 26 00:02:04,90 --> 00:02:09,20 you share in that sentiment to her and so yes I do yes I do think very highly of 27 00:02:09,21 --> 00:02:13,50 veterans and speaking about Federer and some of the origin of Veterans Day I know 28 00:02:13,51 --> 00:02:17,49 we you know we talked about this the other day on the phone right is that it was 29 00:02:17,50 --> 00:02:24,10 Woodrow Wilson who actually designated the eleventh month November the eleventh 30 00:02:24,11 --> 00:02:30,28 day and the eleventh hour as Armistice Day it first Veterans Day first received 31 00:02:30,29 --> 00:02:35,75 traction as Armistice Day The War To End All Wars right you know how to make the 32 00:02:35,76 --> 00:02:40,02 world safe for democracy while you know what I what 33 00:02:40,03 --> 00:02:44,77 a ball is thesis that was then of course that haven't never took place but on the 34 00:02:44,98 --> 00:02:46,78 Armistice Day is an armistice It's 35 00:02:46,79 --> 00:02:51,96 a cease fire and the Germans thought that they had. They had laid their arms down 36 00:02:51,97 --> 00:02:54,71 a cease fire later on they found out that 37 00:02:55,09 --> 00:02:58,10 a cease fire turned into surrender and that led to 38 00:02:58,11 --> 00:03:02,39 a whole problem with the run up to the Second World War OK but it was it was Dwight 39 00:03:02,40 --> 00:03:06,40 Eisenhower Supreme Allied Commander Dick who in one thousand nine hundred four 40 00:03:06,52 --> 00:03:12,24 right Rawdon did from Armistice Day to Veterans Day to include all veterans you 41 00:03:12,25 --> 00:03:16,88 know who have served the country and that went back to the you know the revolution 42 00:03:16,89 --> 00:03:21,89 the war of eighteen twelve of the Spanish-American War I know up here right in the 43 00:03:21,90 --> 00:03:24,46 in the cemetery on Pearl Street right that there are 44 00:03:24,47 --> 00:03:30,17 a little little bit dalliance that designate American revolutionary hero so you are 45 00:03:30,18 --> 00:03:36,64 from Stoughton So that is Eisenhower who broadened it to to include all veterans. 46 00:03:37,89 --> 00:03:43,46 Is very good too it's better it's very much so well and that's that's I'm glad to 47 00:03:43,47 --> 00:03:48,54 hear that and it was and we all know that in parades you know veterans get 48 00:03:48,55 --> 00:03:53,78 a very strong in and vigorous round of applause don't think right and deservedly so 49 00:03:54,51 --> 00:03:59,53 well we again you follow me on that topic to me of course I grasped that right away 50 00:04:00,27 --> 00:04:04,19 you know chatting I thought it would be interesting to talk about you know that 51 00:04:04,20 --> 00:04:09,08 this year was the seventh anniversary you know of the end of World War two and with 52 00:04:09,09 --> 00:04:12,45 Veterans Day in commanders and I thought it would be 53 00:04:12,46 --> 00:04:18,17 a nice segue to talk about to talk about the the sinking of the Indianapolis in 54 00:04:18,18 --> 00:04:23,18 July of one thousand nine hundred five OK And this is the sinking of the 55 00:04:23,19 --> 00:04:30,03 Indianapolis. Was and was the news of that was suppressed 56 00:04:30,26 --> 00:04:30,58 there was 57 00:04:30,59 --> 00:04:35,30 a major cover up you know by the United States Navy and I did this happen July of 58 00:04:35,31 --> 00:04:41,41 one thousand nine hundred five OK And Captain Charles MacPhail walked the plank for 59 00:04:41,42 --> 00:04:47,16 the sinking of the Indianapolis win and his story part of me will is that song it 60 00:04:47,17 --> 00:04:52,45 was sunk in the South Pacific on the way it was in between. In late take golf the 61 00:04:52,46 --> 00:04:54,13 Indianapolis was on its way to late 62 00:04:54,14 --> 00:04:59,62 a golf so that so the crew members of McVeigh had twenty five percent of his crew 63 00:04:59,66 --> 00:05:03,78 were brand new and that included officers and they needed some gunnery practice 64 00:05:03,99 --> 00:05:08,64 because they were to proceed from late take golf in and hook up with with 65 00:05:08,65 --> 00:05:13,76 MacArthur's invasion force for the Operation Downfall the invasion 66 00:05:13,77 --> 00:05:18,77 a land invasion of the of the of the Japanese home islands which never took place 67 00:05:18,81 --> 00:05:22,95 right which leads me to go back to the start of the story OK all right and this is 68 00:05:22,96 --> 00:05:28,17 a nice way to do you know to to loop it back big for a phrase dad had been 69 00:05:28,18 --> 00:05:34,03 a natural in the in the United States Navy McVeigh trials McVeigh had gone to an 70 00:05:34,34 --> 00:05:39,75 Annapolis and in one thousand nine hundred three he got the captaincy of his for 71 00:05:39,76 --> 00:05:41,30 a ship you know the U.S.S. 72 00:05:41,31 --> 00:05:45,64 Indianapolis which was a a heavy cruiser and it was 73 00:05:45,65 --> 00:05:50,17 a fascistic it was fast it could do it could do thirty three knots 74 00:05:50,18 --> 00:05:54,52 a way that is you know which is about forty miles an hour and that's hustling for 75 00:05:54,53 --> 00:06:01,00 a heavy cruiser in fact Roosevelt had the Indianapolis was built in thirty two AM 76 00:06:01,86 --> 00:06:05,06 Roosevelt chose Indianapolis as its flagship and as 77 00:06:05,07 --> 00:06:09,52 a great photograph of Roosevelt in his adults Cape really I've seen 78 00:06:09,53 --> 00:06:13,75 a standing on the deck of the Indianapolis and he's standing as he could stand and 79 00:06:13,96 --> 00:06:19,28 looking ahead with that gaze in that captain's Cape lowing office back like Batman 80 00:06:19,36 --> 00:06:22,42 or really know what it is to reflect really all he looks like 81 00:06:22,43 --> 00:06:28,91 a commander in chief which was of course so make fair this is his first ship. And 82 00:06:28,92 --> 00:06:34,18 as I said he received the captaincy in forty three and the ship was badly damaged 83 00:06:34,47 --> 00:06:40,82 at the Battle of Okinawa kamikaze planes that really bang it up and it limped back 84 00:06:40,83 --> 00:06:43,15 to San Francisco in in 85 00:06:43,16 --> 00:06:47,13 a shipyard and it was and it was being repaired and the repairs were behind 86 00:06:47,14 --> 00:06:51,79 schedule about six weeks behind schedule right and then the news came to MacPhail 87 00:06:52,43 --> 00:06:56,76 get your crew ready you know we have an urgent secret mission that you're going to 88 00:06:56,77 --> 00:07:02,40 take to make faith never knew what he had Dick were that he was told that there 89 00:07:02,41 --> 00:07:09,23 were two to to weigh anchor once you have received two 90 00:07:09,73 --> 00:07:15,27 crates heavily guarded by our Marines way and where well to head to attending an 91 00:07:15,28 --> 00:07:20,69 island OK let me tell you he had no idea what he had what he was carrying were the 92 00:07:20,70 --> 00:07:27,46 warheads from the Manhattan Project one for one to be dropped on Hiroshima and the 93 00:07:27,47 --> 00:07:31,87 other one to be dropped on Nagasaki you know them as the atomic bomb yes he had no 94 00:07:31,88 --> 00:07:36,87 idea what he was carrying didn't know all he knew this was top secret. And that he 95 00:07:36,88 --> 00:07:39,42 was to gather a screw promptly and he said wait 96 00:07:39,43 --> 00:07:44,30 a minute I need that the ship has even been tested yet to see where were the 97 00:07:44,31 --> 00:07:48,37 newness that these men I've got twenty five percent new crewmen and they need 98 00:07:48,38 --> 00:07:54,79 gunnery practice they need radio drill practice they need dick abandon ship 99 00:07:54,80 --> 00:07:59,48 practice as well right there twelve hundred men on the ship and that's no time for 100 00:07:59,49 --> 00:08:04,63 that Captain because I want you to accept these two crates as I said they came down 101 00:08:04,64 --> 00:08:10,66 they were brought in by truck on the dock and lifted by crane into the hold of the 102 00:08:10,67 --> 00:08:15,85 inn in Indianapolis heavily guarded around the clock by our Marines which puzzled 103 00:08:15,86 --> 00:08:21,64 the sailors were all American service personnel why these two enormous crates so 104 00:08:21,65 --> 00:08:26,36 heavily guarded where were where were they inserted where were they at this time 105 00:08:26,81 --> 00:08:32,59 while they were they were heading off from San Francisco with these crates and you 106 00:08:32,60 --> 00:08:36,95 just mention it they're carrying atomic bombs Yeah nobody knew that they just knew 107 00:08:37,20 --> 00:08:37,53 this is 108 00:08:37,54 --> 00:08:43,25 a secret mission he was told complete radio silence and sail for Tinian Island and 109 00:08:43,26 --> 00:08:49,28 waiting on Tinian Island where was your pal Sweeney Chuck Sweeney Oh yeah and Paul 110 00:08:49,29 --> 00:08:55,34 Tibbets Weatherby twenty nine size you know to deliver these warheads and an on the 111 00:08:55,35 --> 00:09:00,48 sixteenth so he set sail again he's got a green crew no abandon ship drills 112 00:09:01,12 --> 00:09:07,08 a fascist in the region by the way this heavy cruiser was so fast is that armor had 113 00:09:07,09 --> 00:09:12,72 been sacrificed for speed at the waterline you know where or how machine will 114 00:09:12,73 --> 00:09:15,66 deliver those torpedoes commander how machine all of 115 00:09:15,67 --> 00:09:18,87 a fifty eight Japanese submarine OK What 116 00:09:18,88 --> 00:09:24,95 a line at the waterline the Indianapolis was only protected by two inches of armor 117 00:09:24,95 --> 00:09:28,70 . Really typically two to three inches of armor typically in 118 00:09:29,41 --> 00:09:35,10 a heavy cruiser had twelve thirteen fourteen inches of heavy armor there the deck 119 00:09:35,11 --> 00:09:40,52 the deck only had two inches of heavy armor typically it's thirteen twelve inches 120 00:09:40,53 --> 00:09:42,04 of heavy armor and here is 121 00:09:42,05 --> 00:09:48,67 a ship whose safety was sacrificed for speed the flagship of Roosevelt so everyone 122 00:09:48,68 --> 00:09:49,53 knew this is 123 00:09:49,54 --> 00:09:54,64 a quick ship to get those warheads out to Tinian Island did the crow know it was 124 00:09:54,65 --> 00:09:58,72 a boy and nobody knew what was on the board they just added I was the know well he 125 00:09:58,73 --> 00:10:03,03 did not tell you when he knew he was told to proceed out of from San Francisco and 126 00:10:03,04 --> 00:10:07,49 on July sixteenth stopped dead in the water to go to await further instructions 127 00:10:07,53 --> 00:10:12,51 stopped dead in the water because on July sixteenth the Tomic bomb was tested at 128 00:10:12,52 --> 00:10:14,05 Los Alamos and 129 00:10:14,06 --> 00:10:19,57 a test that successfully all know and he was told Open your orders you've got the 130 00:10:19,58 --> 00:10:25,41 end of the war below deck rarely ever see in strict radio silence to the tin in 131 00:10:25,42 --> 00:10:31,25 islands and offload these warheads little boy named after Truman for to be dropped 132 00:10:31,26 --> 00:10:37,89 on Hiroshima and Fat Man and named after Churchill to be dropped on eventually 133 00:10:37,90 --> 00:10:42,80 Nagasaki So at this point of the whole crew know what no no no captain no no that 134 00:10:42,91 --> 00:10:48,03 the captain. If he may not have known specifically atomic bomb was such 135 00:10:48,04 --> 00:10:49,07 a new topic it write 136 00:10:49,08 --> 00:10:55,30 a new phrase well I knew this may end the war and preclude maybe the need for an 137 00:10:55,31 --> 00:11:00,21 invasion but nobody knew that at this time so he hightails it for Tinian Island and 138 00:11:00,22 --> 00:11:04,61 Sweeney and Tippett So waiting for this this was August flowers and this is July or 139 00:11:04,97 --> 00:11:11,21 end of July nine hundred forty five and it may end the war no one knew that and 140 00:11:11,88 --> 00:11:17,40 so I see he delivers the warheads whatever they are and of course tippets you know 141 00:11:17,41 --> 00:11:22,12 tippets and Sweeney they had no idea what they were what the what they did know is 142 00:11:22,13 --> 00:11:27,78 that in those two bunkers over there are two brand new weapons that might and the 143 00:11:27,79 --> 00:11:33,40 war and they assembled their crew and both tippets and Sweeney told the crew this 144 00:11:33,41 --> 00:11:33,53 is 145 00:11:33,54 --> 00:11:38,12 a dangerous mission they did tell him they'll be no fighter escort and if you want 146 00:11:38,13 --> 00:11:42,09 to you know and if you want to back off no one will question your car it's just 147 00:11:42,10 --> 00:11:47,75 that one ship. Two planes two planes each plane carrying an individual weapon Oh 148 00:11:47,76 --> 00:11:54,43 all the Sweeney will I say box car and and the you know you're gay was captain by 149 00:11:54,44 --> 00:11:56,88 tippets So both men knew that this was 150 00:11:56,89 --> 00:12:02,43 a dangerous mission no fight or else no fighter escort were we're going over our 151 00:12:02,44 --> 00:12:07,21 targets and if anybody wants to sit out this mission they're welcome to of course 152 00:12:07,31 --> 00:12:10,05 you know no one did oh no we've been a crew we've been 153 00:12:10,06 --> 00:12:14,64 a crew since forty four right and I got the best of an hour we're either going to 154 00:12:14,75 --> 00:12:15,78 this is either going to be 155 00:12:15,79 --> 00:12:20,22 a one way mission that we're never going to come back from or we're going to go 156 00:12:20,23 --> 00:12:25,23 down together or we're going to fly this last mission together and land and maybe 157 00:12:25,70 --> 00:12:30,91 maybe these bombs will end the war so so McVeigh has to live it is cargo did the 158 00:12:30,92 --> 00:12:34,22 crew know all out now at that point all the crew and the crew knew they had 159 00:12:34,23 --> 00:12:37,66 something big they did know about the crew the aircraft or the prove the ship well 160 00:12:37,67 --> 00:12:40,80 both the the crew on the B. 161 00:12:40,81 --> 00:12:45,63 Twenty nine snoo they had something big and that. Well wiring up something that 162 00:12:45,64 --> 00:12:49,73 never been dropped before OK and they wired it on board the B. 163 00:12:49,74 --> 00:12:54,72 Twenty nine as they approach the target so this is I mean you can imagine Sweeney 164 00:12:55,42 --> 00:12:59,00 you know you know getting on the air you know getting on the the microphone you 165 00:12:59,01 --> 00:13:02,14 know we've you know ten minutes ten minutes a target ten months 166 00:13:02,15 --> 00:13:06,81 a target the weapon on the weapon and then back in Sweeney's ear now we're back in 167 00:13:06,82 --> 00:13:12,24 tip it's here weapon arm bomb bay doors open bombs away and let's get out of here 168 00:13:12,25 --> 00:13:13,57 quick because 169 00:13:13,58 --> 00:13:17,85 a bit because they were told by their by their superiors when you drop this thing 170 00:13:18,35 --> 00:13:22,85 it's never been used in a wartime situation no we have no idea what kind of 171 00:13:22,86 --> 00:13:27,35 a blast is going to come up so get out of there quickly Don't linger and look 172 00:13:27,58 --> 00:13:30,17 because of my rip the wings off the plane drop 173 00:13:30,18 --> 00:13:32,45 a load and take that might spin the plane like 174 00:13:32,46 --> 00:13:37,55 a car will get out of here and of course they both threw the yoke over at one 175 00:13:37,56 --> 00:13:39,63 hundred fifty degree stick that's almost 176 00:13:40,02 --> 00:13:43,99 a jet ski swift swinging around like the hell and these guys looking back over 177 00:13:44,00 --> 00:13:45,30 their shoulders like in 178 00:13:45,31 --> 00:13:51,93 a rearview mirror and saying whoa whoa whoa what was that really and that was 179 00:13:51,97 --> 00:13:54,45 Hiroshima Nagasaki and 180 00:13:54,46 --> 00:13:59,56 a few days later on August fourteenth Truman announcing you know the end of the war 181 00:13:59,82 --> 00:14:05,48 by August fourteenth the men from the Indianapolis had finally been plucked from 182 00:14:05,49 --> 00:14:10,72 the water nine hundred men so let's go to that story let's get back to that story 183 00:14:10,76 --> 00:14:17,50 OK So McVeigh drops his cargo off and he proceeds to Guam island and at that 184 00:14:17,51 --> 00:14:21,89 point he completely drops off everybody's radar this is 185 00:14:21,90 --> 00:14:28,51 a top secret mission No one knows he's out there in fact he was 186 00:14:28,52 --> 00:14:34,79 denied he was denied a destroyer escort. Never in the entire war was 187 00:14:34,80 --> 00:14:38,42 a heavy cruiser out on the open ocean without 188 00:14:38,43 --> 00:14:42,49 a destroyer escort right because the destroyers would pick up with their sonar 189 00:14:43,01 --> 00:14:48,78 a an approaching submarine and go out and depth charge it and McVeigh at them if 190 00:14:48,79 --> 00:14:49,38 a asked for 191 00:14:49,39 --> 00:14:53,39 a destroyer escort and was told no we don't have any Furthermore you've got 192 00:14:53,40 --> 00:14:58,67 a fascist Secondly this is an absolute secret mission No one knows you're out there 193 00:14:59,41 --> 00:15:02,97 what drop it do not break radio silence unless there was 194 00:15:02,98 --> 00:15:08,49 a urgent emergency right and so he as I said delivered 195 00:15:09,71 --> 00:15:15,27 and it was on his way through to late take off for his crew to take gunnery 196 00:15:15,28 --> 00:15:19,81 practice target practice and they would have joined up with MacArthur Operation 197 00:15:19,82 --> 00:15:24,66 Downfall for the invasion of the Japanese home islands and they expected massive 198 00:15:24,67 --> 00:15:30,84 kamikaze attacks so I want my new guys to have gunnery practice to take out these 199 00:15:30,85 --> 00:15:36,22 kamikaze planes because I got hit at Okinawa and the ship was never fully repaired 200 00:15:36,23 --> 00:15:39,83 with the planes on the ship there were no planes on it on 201 00:15:39,84 --> 00:15:45,74 a cruise or no planes it's just day he was moving quickly OK He had no sonar OK and 202 00:15:45,80 --> 00:15:50,91 he had not been told that because we're not maintaining radio silence within 203 00:15:50,95 --> 00:15:54,20 Indianapolis he had not been told that there had been 204 00:15:54,21 --> 00:15:59,51 a few days earlier an American destroyer that had been torpedoed by Japanese U. 205 00:15:59,52 --> 00:16:04,51 Boat in the South Pacific really in the very waters that he was proceeding into 206 00:16:04,60 --> 00:16:11,25 from Guam to Les to Gulf right he wasn't told. He was told not to break radio 207 00:16:11,26 --> 00:16:17,93 silence and that during the daylight hours to zigzag to throw off any 208 00:16:18,13 --> 00:16:21,91 and he tempt to you know to to to to fire 209 00:16:21,92 --> 00:16:28,71 a torpedo I meant to hit right and also and this is important deck. At night. Or 210 00:16:28,72 --> 00:16:34,94 heavy weather to use his discretion as to whether or not he wanted to zigzag the 211 00:16:34,95 --> 00:16:39,29 night of the attack on the twenty six the twenty seventh of July. 212 00:16:41,46 --> 00:16:48,42 Commando Hashimoto heard the Indianapolis heard the Indianapolis and 213 00:16:48,43 --> 00:16:49,64 it heard it this was 214 00:16:49,65 --> 00:16:54,85 a brand new class of Japanese submarines are only six of them and this is the last 215 00:16:54,95 --> 00:16:57,46 production of this type of submarine This is 216 00:16:57,47 --> 00:17:03,34 a submarine was almost four hundred feet in length dick in fact it was so large 217 00:17:03,62 --> 00:17:08,17 that it was carrying was called Kate him midget submarines in which there were 218 00:17:08,60 --> 00:17:14,94 kamikaze submariners who if if Hashimoto wanted to use them that the men would be 219 00:17:14,95 --> 00:17:19,80 lowered into a torpedo and they would drive it into the side of 220 00:17:19,81 --> 00:17:22,48 a ship and they would be launched like 221 00:17:22,49 --> 00:17:24,54 a kamikaze plane except they'd be launched like 222 00:17:24,55 --> 00:17:29,63 a torpedo So the Japanese thought this was fresh made well yeah and he didn't know 223 00:17:29,64 --> 00:17:34,77 what was out there they were twelve miles away and his sonar guys his sound guys 224 00:17:34,99 --> 00:17:40,52 heard this strange sound coming through the water and they want to Hashimoto and 225 00:17:40,53 --> 00:17:44,16 they said this is strange it sounds like doesn't sound like 226 00:17:44,17 --> 00:17:49,81 a whale you know whales honking or communicating it sounds like rattling dishes. 227 00:17:50,83 --> 00:17:55,31 And that's what it was what they had heard twelve miles out of that. 228 00:17:57,86 --> 00:18:03,58 The mess was over and they were clearing the dishes of twelve hundred men to watch 229 00:18:03,59 --> 00:18:09,73 them so the sound of the clatter of dishes travelling twelve miles through the 230 00:18:09,74 --> 00:18:14,80 ocean and the sound the the so the sound guys are picking us up and they're telling 231 00:18:14,81 --> 00:18:20,31 their Captain Commander Hashimoto we don't know what this is but it sounds like 232 00:18:20,50 --> 00:18:27,45 dishes so he crept in he crept in around midnight and just 233 00:18:27,46 --> 00:18:28,09 to take a look 234 00:18:28,13 --> 00:18:34,77 a periscope and there it was this enormous battleship heavy cruiser and 235 00:18:34,78 --> 00:18:40,21 McFate had chosen not to zigzag it was so heavy the weather was so heavy was so 236 00:18:40,22 --> 00:18:45,45 murky so fog that on the deck when the when the men came and went on the deck they 237 00:18:45,46 --> 00:18:49,81 could not even see each other they had to identify themselves for Billy you know so 238 00:18:49,82 --> 00:18:55,42 I would say to you and said Highlander so you knew who I was as I came on deck sure 239 00:18:55,59 --> 00:18:59,66 and you would say Captain Murphy I mean right so I know who you were right so make 240 00:18:59,67 --> 00:19:04,60 faces I don't want to waste fuel and I don't want to waste any time so I'm not 241 00:19:04,61 --> 00:19:10,18 going to zigzag tonight I'm going to head straight to later. Like Tate didn't even 242 00:19:10,19 --> 00:19:14,40 know they were coming late he didn't even know they with there no one knew they 243 00:19:14,41 --> 00:19:20,81 were out there they are sitting ducks as you said this fresh meat and this is 244 00:19:20,82 --> 00:19:26,70 a commander who with a brand new U. Boat and monster of a U. 245 00:19:26,71 --> 00:19:33,49 Boat shows I'm not going to use by kamikaze naval guys and have them steer it right 246 00:19:33,50 --> 00:19:37,47 I want to save them for another attack if there was one of your Because when these 247 00:19:37,48 --> 00:19:40,28 guys were launched what would happen is they had 248 00:19:40,29 --> 00:19:44,38 a they could it's not like they could come back if he gave the order to launch 249 00:19:44,39 --> 00:19:46,52 these guys or one of two of them right that they had 250 00:19:46,53 --> 00:19:49,38 a range of twenty five miles and if they couldn't find 251 00:19:49,39 --> 00:19:54,84 a target down they go they drown already so I'm going to save these guys for maybe 252 00:19:54,85 --> 00:20:01,22 another another effort. I can creep in at night creeping on the 253 00:20:01,23 --> 00:20:03,99 Indianapolis is enormous ship filming 254 00:20:04,00 --> 00:20:08,42 a periscope and now they can really hear the client dishes and silverware and 255 00:20:08,43 --> 00:20:12,90 glasses that are no ship brand new brand new brand new ship that had an interesting 256 00:20:12,91 --> 00:20:18,78 design it had a it was designed very much in it even in the exaggerated way like 257 00:20:18,79 --> 00:20:20,07 a sausage with 258 00:20:20,08 --> 00:20:25,46 a new way to bounce off enemy radar signal recently so I don't even know if it 259 00:20:25,47 --> 00:20:25,94 failed had 260 00:20:25,95 --> 00:20:31,69 a destroyer escort it whether or not the destroyer would have picked up. The this 261 00:20:31,70 --> 00:20:38,13 this brand new you boat who knows right how much show to lay down six torpedoes two 262 00:20:38,14 --> 00:20:44,39 of them will hit four miss and it's twelve Actually it was twelve or so 263 00:20:44,43 --> 00:20:46,15 three P.M. 264 00:20:46,58 --> 00:20:49,00 Am rather in the morning right he's and he's in 265 00:20:49,01 --> 00:20:53,75 a bunk you know and lights out and suddenly he's thrown out of his bunk he thinks 266 00:20:53,88 --> 00:20:54,21 he's had 267 00:20:54,22 --> 00:20:59,27 a landmine he thinks there's another kamikaze attack he doesn't know what to think 268 00:20:59,31 --> 00:20:59,85 but all of 269 00:20:59,86 --> 00:21:05,31 a sudden within minutes the ship is an inferno below deck and he makes his way he 270 00:21:05,32 --> 00:21:11,50 makes his way to the. To the deck. And there's fire and smoke everywhere there's no 271 00:21:11,51 --> 00:21:14,43 way he can communicate down to get 272 00:21:14,44 --> 00:21:19,43 a damage report Everything's burned out I mean three hundred men below deck are 273 00:21:19,60 --> 00:21:25,40 incinerated scorched to death by the by the fire with the fuel and the and the and 274 00:21:25,41 --> 00:21:32,03 the shells going off the ship sinks in twelve minutes in twelve and 275 00:21:32,04 --> 00:21:36,94 a half minutes at the three minute mark so twelve zero three twelve zero six at the 276 00:21:36,95 --> 00:21:42,28 three minute mark the ship is already listing to starboard it's all already listing 277 00:21:42,29 --> 00:21:46,55 fifteen or twenty degrees to start it in after Let's make fake cannot even give the 278 00:21:46,56 --> 00:21:49,40 order to abandon ship because there's no P.S.A. 279 00:21:50,18 --> 00:21:57,09 These guys are new crew members they had not been trained in abandon ship 280 00:21:57,10 --> 00:22:03,40 drills in fact the Navy EPU camp and training really talked about they really took 281 00:22:03,41 --> 00:22:08,20 well that they talked about abandoning ship what they did not talk about was 282 00:22:08,33 --> 00:22:13,27 abandoning ship in shark infested waters because that's been different bad for 283 00:22:13,28 --> 00:22:19,63 morale that so I went there so we don't even talk about sharks and so these men had 284 00:22:19,64 --> 00:22:25,99 no idea how to fend off sharks when they came and they will come for four days 285 00:22:26,38 --> 00:22:32,08 and so that in fact the men on the starboard side the ship was going down so fast 286 00:22:32,09 --> 00:22:37,46 Dick that as these men remember there were three hundred sixteen survivors as these 287 00:22:37,47 --> 00:22:41,17 are being remembered on the starboard side it was going down so quickly that when 288 00:22:41,18 --> 00:22:45,16 they put on their you know their life jackets and their life belts all they had to 289 00:22:45,17 --> 00:22:49,32 do was just step into the ocean it was eighty five degrees like stepping into 290 00:22:49,33 --> 00:22:51,90 a pool in the backyard How many men were there and actually 291 00:22:51,91 --> 00:22:55,01 a nine hundred went into the water. Yeah the ship had 292 00:22:55,02 --> 00:22:59,32 a crew of twelve hundred and three hundred perished on most immediately all we lost 293 00:22:59,33 --> 00:23:03,32 a low day and there's nothing anybody could do for these guys they simply were 294 00:23:03,33 --> 00:23:09,65 burnt just fried in all that diesel oil So imagine this is 295 00:23:09,69 --> 00:23:16,44 a heavy cruiser and these guys just step in in the Pacific like you're 296 00:23:16,45 --> 00:23:22,36 stepping into an outdoor pool the other guys had to jump in leap into the water now 297 00:23:22,37 --> 00:23:27,05 they had none of them had any shark repellents in their life vests because the Navy 298 00:23:27,75 --> 00:23:30,33 which is which developed a shark repellent which was 299 00:23:30,34 --> 00:23:35,21 a dark inky substance with some dead shark meat and they tested out didn't even 300 00:23:35,22 --> 00:23:42,13 work didn't even work so these guys just are in the water he acted up. So 301 00:23:42,14 --> 00:23:45,52 these guys are in the water and they're swimming away from the ship and it's 302 00:23:45,53 --> 00:23:52,31 leaking this heavy viscous oil and the gulping it I mean you're panicking and the 303 00:23:52,32 --> 00:23:57,18 word the word from the officers to the men swim away swim away swim away fast 304 00:23:57,50 --> 00:24:01,18 because the ship is going down so quickly it will suck everyone in yeah you know 305 00:24:01,19 --> 00:24:07,39 with the void techs so these guys are going water in their gulping fiscus or oil 306 00:24:07,58 --> 00:24:12,56 it's in their lungs it's in their eyes it's in their nostrils it's in their ears I 307 00:24:12,57 --> 00:24:19,11 mean some guys simply died of that and of inhaling all of that thick viscous diesel 308 00:24:19,12 --> 00:24:24,57 oil and swim away swim away swim away stay together stay together you know form 309 00:24:24,58 --> 00:24:30,11 a line tire life jackets together tell you life belts together and they did make 310 00:24:30,12 --> 00:24:34,13 fame went into the water with them he wished he had gone down with the ship 311 00:24:34,19 --> 00:24:34,74 a whale of 312 00:24:34,75 --> 00:24:38,90 a supposed to go once they were in the water they were supposed to wait for rescue 313 00:24:39,14 --> 00:24:45,08 all he was say in the panic in the commotion he broke radio silence he got off one 314 00:24:45,13 --> 00:24:47,78 mayday mayday mayday mayday mayday call we did and 315 00:24:47,79 --> 00:24:52,20 a mayday mayday mayday or distress call giving us coordinates as best he could do 316 00:24:52,37 --> 00:24:57,74 in all that fixed. As I say every lamp unless we're talking about the Indianapolis 317 00:24:58,24 --> 00:25:02,44 down it goes nobody knows it's there OK No one knows who spent attacked except 318 00:25:02,68 --> 00:25:03,66 Hashimoto the U. 319 00:25:03,67 --> 00:25:08,14 Boat commander and the men the now in the water and the royal ring assuring 320 00:25:08,15 --> 00:25:12,64 themselves out at the Navy knows where we are and they musta picked up 321 00:25:12,65 --> 00:25:16,23 a distress call and when we don't when we're overdue it late 322 00:25:16,24 --> 00:25:21,95 a golf they'll come looking for us no one at Lake take all new to expect them were 323 00:25:21,96 --> 00:25:27,00 No one knew they were common no one knew they were out there here's what the Navy 324 00:25:27,01 --> 00:25:32,49 covered up and I'll come back the several times for our viewers. He got that 325 00:25:32,50 --> 00:25:38,36 distress call off he got that mayday mayday mayday and did he got it off and it was 326 00:25:38,37 --> 00:25:44,46 picked up it was picked up by by American naval guys and they knew it 327 00:25:45,24 --> 00:25:50,63 they ignored it for two reasons stick one there's no ship out there. It's not 328 00:25:50,64 --> 00:25:54,98 supposed to be a ship and says a Ruth's thank you this is 329 00:25:54,99 --> 00:26:00,83 a ruse put up by the Japanese tour lure us into this area so they can destroy 330 00:26:00,98 --> 00:26:02,62 rescue ship oh this is 331 00:26:02,63 --> 00:26:09,59 a complete bogus Mayday So these guys are out there no one 332 00:26:09,60 --> 00:26:11,44 knows they're there dick they're on 333 00:26:11,45 --> 00:26:17,62 a top secret mission right they get off one distress call that's ignored back at 334 00:26:17,63 --> 00:26:19,73 Guam because this is 335 00:26:19,74 --> 00:26:25,79 a roost your word to lure right that have the Japanese Laurus in and to attack us 336 00:26:25,96 --> 00:26:30,39 so these men are in the water and the reassuring each other that I mean there are 337 00:26:30,40 --> 00:26:34,47 doctors in the War of the captains in the water there are chaplains in the water 338 00:26:34,67 --> 00:26:39,94 reassuring the men hang on stay together really they know we're they know we're 339 00:26:39,95 --> 00:26:45,52 here they know we're in the water at daylight they'll come through and they'll pick 340 00:26:45,53 --> 00:26:52,49 us up day one became day two became day three became days guys are all in the 341 00:26:52,50 --> 00:26:59,04 water they're in the water. The they saying their prayers of course 342 00:26:59,70 --> 00:27:03,60 they're saying more than their prayers that some of these men begin to hallucinate 343 00:27:03,60 --> 00:27:09,91 . Now remember it's in the broiling sun this you know it's in the broiling sun 344 00:27:10,50 --> 00:27:16,95 hallucinations it's dehydration gagging and sick from gulping all that fuel oil 345 00:27:17,83 --> 00:27:23,35 drinking salt water when they were told to not drink the salt water salt water 346 00:27:23,36 --> 00:27:27,61 poisoning but they're thirsty they've got all that's got in their lungs in their 347 00:27:27,62 --> 00:27:33,75 throat What would you do you're gulping salt water salt water poisoning dehydration 348 00:27:34,00 --> 00:27:38,93 these little microbes these little fish plankton coming up in nibbling at their at 349 00:27:38,94 --> 00:27:42,32 their life how many men were in the water nine hundred men on the water they were 350 00:27:42,33 --> 00:27:46,18 they were all out nobody left aboard ship three hundred dead I mean the ship went 351 00:27:46,19 --> 00:27:50,27 down to three hundred dead and the ship in it below deck that ship went down in 352 00:27:50,28 --> 00:27:55,88 twelve minutes and it went down bow first I mean they could it was like the Titanic 353 00:27:55,89 --> 00:28:00,64 as I swam away they could see those propellers going now and that ship went down 354 00:28:00,65 --> 00:28:06,51 and four miles of water nobody's ever found that ship Nationalgeographic many times 355 00:28:06,52 --> 00:28:11,16 the ship was not yet then to find they don't have no idea where it is but I just 356 00:28:11,23 --> 00:28:15,63 the last time anybody saw it it was just going on like an arrow so what did the man 357 00:28:15,64 --> 00:28:22,01 die for well they died from drowning exposure they died from dehydration 358 00:28:22,34 --> 00:28:27,55 gulping in that fuel that they died from some of the men begin to hallucinate and 359 00:28:27,56 --> 00:28:31,89 they began to see there's the Indianapolis right there we're going to swim to it 360 00:28:32,37 --> 00:28:35,92 they're going to pull us out of the water there it is right there and there's hot 361 00:28:35,93 --> 00:28:37,25 coffee and a fresh and 362 00:28:37,26 --> 00:28:43,55 a fresh bath in and cold water we're really seeing it and they swam away and some 363 00:28:43,56 --> 00:28:49,18 men Day to Day three dick big hypothermia now the body temperature ninety eight 364 00:28:49,19 --> 00:28:54,66 point six Now there are Pacific water eighty five degrees but there's an imbalance 365 00:28:54,67 --> 00:28:56,35 of body temperature and after 366 00:28:56,36 --> 00:29:02,01 a while the balance of ten twelve degrees it begins to depending on your body 367 00:29:02,02 --> 00:29:06,90 weight in your Constitution. A thermos sets and you begin to freeze to death to 368 00:29:06,91 --> 00:29:13,20 shutter to shiver and you dive exposure of hypothermia and some simply rescind side 369 00:29:13,21 --> 00:29:18,52 their jackets their their their their life jackets and just took out 370 00:29:18,56 --> 00:29:21,19 a small knife in opened up 371 00:29:21,20 --> 00:29:27,69 a vein really rather than being ripped out of your life jacket by sharks 372 00:29:28,32 --> 00:29:34,94 you see the sharks would feed the sharks would feed at daybreak and they fed at 373 00:29:34,98 --> 00:29:41,06 dusk sharks are opportunistic opportunistic eaters they just eat 374 00:29:41,95 --> 00:29:47,16 right they're eating machines Yeah they have fifteen tons of pressure per square 375 00:29:47,17 --> 00:29:53,78 inch when those jaws close on you and so therefore five 376 00:29:53,79 --> 00:29:58,44 men and we're together and we're roped together or whatever which we're trying to 377 00:29:58,45 --> 00:30:03,10 stay together and by now of course what the tides are drifting away so suddenly go 378 00:30:03,11 --> 00:30:09,50 next to me and you suddenly tip over. In your in your life jacket why your legs 379 00:30:09,64 --> 00:30:11,99 right and your legs have been just snatched off by 380 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:18,17 a shark. And men would scream and they're gone and as you're in the life as you're 381 00:30:18,18 --> 00:30:23,60 in your life Jack and you could look in the water there almost lagoon like and you 382 00:30:23,61 --> 00:30:30,33 could see the sharks circling circling at dusk and daybreak in coming up 383 00:30:30,84 --> 00:30:33,78 and coming up and maybe one brushed your leg and as 384 00:30:33,79 --> 00:30:38,20 a pressure leg it ripped the guy next to you right out of the life jacket on many 385 00:30:38,21 --> 00:30:43,100 men were in the water at this nine hundred again now how many were killed three 386 00:30:44,01 --> 00:30:48,62 hundred and sixteen survived out of that and how that now not everyone but I'm 387 00:30:48,63 --> 00:30:51,38 killed on board ship not everyone died of 388 00:30:51,39 --> 00:30:56,75 a shark attack OK but Dick the thought that you're in the water and hearing these 389 00:30:56,76 --> 00:31:02,22 men scream as they're ripped out of their own life jackets or suddenly up in the 390 00:31:02,23 --> 00:31:03,26 year with 391 00:31:03,27 --> 00:31:09,14 a shark and pulling them down and the in these life jackets they don't they only 392 00:31:09,15 --> 00:31:13,13 had a buoyancy of forty eight hours there in the water for four days sure in 393 00:31:13,14 --> 00:31:19,91 a life jacket and it begins to absorb water and you begin to some men some men 394 00:31:19,92 --> 00:31:25,82 simply were carried down by the weight of their life jacket when this when this 395 00:31:25,83 --> 00:31:31,84 happened had to spend anticipated by those who were making the decision I mean the 396 00:31:31,85 --> 00:31:35,44 men didn't know they were going to be dying did they know they didn't and they were 397 00:31:35,45 --> 00:31:40,27 told McFate was toll there's no report and these reports were ten days old you know 398 00:31:40,28 --> 00:31:41,96 for sale of any Japanese U. 399 00:31:41,97 --> 00:31:46,74 Boat activity in the area between got Guam in late take off so there were three 400 00:31:46,75 --> 00:31:52,68 hundred two hundred fifty miles away from any land Dick nobody knows them. And but 401 00:31:52,69 --> 00:31:57,39 they did know they were going to be. No no I didn't expect to be attacked that's 402 00:31:57,40 --> 00:32:01,87 what I mean and this is why in this is why I mean this is why at night he wasn't 403 00:32:01,88 --> 00:32:03,43 zigzagging I'm running 404 00:32:03,44 --> 00:32:08,61 a straight path to get to late take get there quickly out of these waters even 405 00:32:08,62 --> 00:32:10,64 though I've been told there's been no U. 406 00:32:10,65 --> 00:32:15,60 Boat activity who knows at this point when they're all in the water as the ball 407 00:32:15,93 --> 00:32:21,76 dropped the bomb was dropped no no the bomb was dropped on the eighth and ninth 408 00:32:22,09 --> 00:32:28,38 they're pulled out on the sixth the ninth they're pulled out on the. It would been 409 00:32:28,42 --> 00:32:32,43 on August fourth or August felt out of the hold out of the water well they still 410 00:32:32,44 --> 00:32:38,60 got some out there and they got some out now they saw planes overhead and slapping 411 00:32:38,61 --> 00:32:44,19 the water and trying to wave but all the Pacific is HUGE get so it's huge and when 412 00:32:44,20 --> 00:32:48,62 you're not looking for survivors in the water you're looking to go from point A to 413 00:32:48,63 --> 00:32:49,42 point B. 414 00:32:49,65 --> 00:32:54,83 So you do not get lost in the vastness of the Pacific I mean Amelia Earhart went 415 00:32:54,84 --> 00:33:00,09 down because she got lost in going from one island one fueling station to another 416 00:33:00,29 --> 00:33:05,43 so if you're not looking and you were told to look nobody knew what was thier dick 417 00:33:05,88 --> 00:33:10,12 so they spotted some of the guys I'll tell you how they spot of them there was 418 00:33:10,13 --> 00:33:14,73 a seaplane Catalina seaplane make you know going from point A to Point B. 419 00:33:15,02 --> 00:33:19,16 And a pilot just looking down happened to notice 420 00:33:19,37 --> 00:33:25,99 a huge oil slick really hundred mile oil slick he follow the oil slick 421 00:33:26,03 --> 00:33:28,52 he thought there might be Japanese U. 422 00:33:28,53 --> 00:33:30,47 Boat on the surface the voters are in 423 00:33:30,48 --> 00:33:35,57 a government already been dropped right the bomb has not been dropped you know 424 00:33:35,72 --> 00:33:39,78 these guys are pulled out of the water on the fourth and fifth of August oh my god 425 00:33:39,79 --> 00:33:44,62 not the fourth and fifth of August the bomb strapped on August sixth on August 426 00:33:44,63 --> 00:33:49,80 ninth August sixth is Hiroshima That was August ninth as is Nagasaki and then 427 00:33:49,81 --> 00:33:54,49 Truman suspends all military activities against the Japanese on August fourteenth 428 00:33:54,82 --> 00:34:00,50 after the Emperor surrenders but the pilot seizes oil slick and he follows it he's 429 00:34:00,51 --> 00:34:03,30 the thinks it's a limping Japanese U. 430 00:34:03,31 --> 00:34:05,26 Boat that he's going to finish off with 431 00:34:05,27 --> 00:34:11,17 a dive attack and as he closes in he sees three hundred four three hundred men on 432 00:34:11,18 --> 00:34:16,81 the water. Who are these guys we're really from how did they get here I didn't know 433 00:34:16,82 --> 00:34:22,00 there were Americans he didn't know who they want to know they so he he brings the 434 00:34:22,01 --> 00:34:28,61 plane down and these are Americans they've been in the water for days. And as I 435 00:34:28,62 --> 00:34:34,71 said while most of them were not ripped apart by sharks enough were. It's 436 00:34:34,93 --> 00:34:41,02 dehydration it's suffocation from the oil it's the it's drinking salt water it's 437 00:34:41,03 --> 00:34:46,22 exposure in that heat what I mean I. Can you imagine 438 00:34:46,23 --> 00:34:49,91 a post-traumatic stress disorder after that yeah and I can 439 00:34:49,95 --> 00:34:55,88 a little bit nobody knew nobody knew about post-traumatic stress disorder I was 440 00:34:55,89 --> 00:35:01,14 talking to a woman last Friday I spoke at the world breakfast 441 00:35:01,18 --> 00:35:05,50 a Veterans Park for so two hundred people there I speak there every veteran stay 442 00:35:05,51 --> 00:35:10,78 around Veterans Day It was last Friday and this is my tenth year there and I 443 00:35:11,01 --> 00:35:14,06 related to them the sinking of the Indianapolis there was 444 00:35:14,07 --> 00:35:19,08 a woman who came who came specifically for that presentation her dad was 445 00:35:19,09 --> 00:35:24,17 a physician. He was in the water he was in the water he was in the water and we 446 00:35:24,18 --> 00:35:29,99 talked out there today no no we talked afterwards at length and because I wanted to 447 00:35:30,00 --> 00:35:36,54 know when I we talked about oh your dad's memory and and I asked her did he talk 448 00:35:36,55 --> 00:35:43,50 about it and she said rarely but when he did after he talked about it that night 449 00:35:43,88 --> 00:35:44,15 was 450 00:35:44,19 --> 00:35:51,28 a horrific at in the house because all night long he would be screaming because post-traumatic 451 00:35:51,29 --> 00:35:55,64 stress disorder so all night long you saw what I was you know very scary came out 452 00:35:55,65 --> 00:35:59,54 and you know it well was that when I when he did talk about it that when he went to 453 00:35:59,55 --> 00:36:04,15 bed that night I mean he would just be screaming at night and sit and she would say 454 00:36:04,16 --> 00:36:08,98 in the morning the sheets would be ripped the pillows all over the floor really 455 00:36:08,99 --> 00:36:10,91 because that P.T.S.D. 456 00:36:10,92 --> 00:36:11,56 Had kicked in 457 00:36:11,57 --> 00:36:17,38 a while and she said that what he did is that he swam on the man with his life 458 00:36:17,39 --> 00:36:24,01 jacket on and he would if your pupils were well and he would pronounce you dead and 459 00:36:24,05 --> 00:36:28,34 take the life jacket off you and you would slip away because the sharks would feed 460 00:36:28,35 --> 00:36:28,48 on 461 00:36:28,49 --> 00:36:34,76 a corpse and maybe not take out somebody still living on the surface and and they would 462 00:36:34,77 --> 00:36:39,82 take the life jacket and if it and if it still had some some some life to it 463 00:36:39,83 --> 00:36:43,83 literally and it wasn't full of water that would grab that life she had Can you 464 00:36:43,84 --> 00:36:48,84 imagine and she's And the the person who was hosting it said There's 465 00:36:48,85 --> 00:36:53,20 a woman here that would like to talk to you afterwards and I so I was make some 466 00:36:53,21 --> 00:36:55,08 wise remark like I said that she have 467 00:36:55,09 --> 00:37:00,51 a warrant for my arrest I just I have such stuff right. And she said no her dad was 468 00:37:00,52 --> 00:37:03,55 a survivor Why is he survived she said yes he was of 469 00:37:03,60 --> 00:37:09,43 a physician in the water and I said I want to talk to her. So we chatted for about 470 00:37:09,44 --> 00:37:14,69 fifteen twenty minutes and I said Wow Well you don't know how long he lived 471 00:37:14,70 --> 00:37:20,26 afterwards I forgot to ask but she did tell me about when he talked about it the 472 00:37:20,27 --> 00:37:24,39 now. Came back and the heat to get rid of so these guys are pulled out of the water 473 00:37:24,47 --> 00:37:29,57 how many were killed here and how many Well there was again there were twelve 474 00:37:29,58 --> 00:37:35,65 hundred in round numbers crew members and about three hundred sixteen survived so 475 00:37:35,66 --> 00:37:40,67 you're talking about almost nine hundred one ship now one ship almost nine hundred 476 00:37:40,68 --> 00:37:46,93 perished between the fire below deck and the elements of exposure in the seventy 477 00:37:46,94 --> 00:37:53,84 five percent. You know. The movie Jaws you might remember the movie Jaws 478 00:37:53,85 --> 00:37:57,89 I know you saw it and I know we talked about this that you're not an American if 479 00:37:57,90 --> 00:38:02,62 you haven't seen Joss right and Jaws was released this past summer because this 480 00:38:02,63 --> 00:38:06,35 year was the fortieth anniversary in one thousand nine hundred five of Jaws and I 481 00:38:06,36 --> 00:38:12,27 remember in the movie Quint is on the ship and Quint remembers the Sharks he was in 482 00:38:12,28 --> 00:38:17,24 the water for the Indianapolis and I mean it this is the way they put the story to 483 00:38:17,25 --> 00:38:21,97 get out and eventually gets eaten by the great white Quint us in effect joining his 484 00:38:21,98 --> 00:38:28,93 comrades and I kind of grisly death in the film the Indianapolis. It is going to 485 00:38:28,94 --> 00:38:34,06 be released over moral day this is for our viewers is over Memorial Day of next 486 00:38:34,07 --> 00:38:38,93 year second released in two thousand and sixteen Nicholas Cage is going to play 487 00:38:38,94 --> 00:38:44,75 Captain McVeigh and the director of the Indianapolis is going to be the very man 488 00:38:44,76 --> 00:38:50,88 who directed Jaws is that right so how about that for bookends shark to shy so toss 489 00:38:50,89 --> 00:38:57,33 to the Indian old man killed excuse me total man killed and totaled somebody in 490 00:38:57,34 --> 00:39:02,03 round numbers nine hundred dead three hundred survived they were all trying to 491 00:39:02,04 --> 00:39:05,14 shout I'm willing as I'm I'm shaving the numbers up and down just 492 00:39:05,15 --> 00:39:09,14 a little bit just in round number we had just the one ship there it is just one 493 00:39:09,15 --> 00:39:14,32 ship until the sea planes came out of the rescue vessels came and had the plans 494 00:39:14,33 --> 00:39:19,99 gone up and they said they landed the they landed these seaplanes to pick to pluck 495 00:39:20,00 --> 00:39:22,25 the guys up but there were three hundred and he had 496 00:39:22,26 --> 00:39:25,54 a radio battle but I mean had the blossoms been the bombs were dropped 497 00:39:25,55 --> 00:39:32,43 a few days later and the war is over for these guys. The war was over you bet it is 498 00:39:32,47 --> 00:39:39,01 it's about survival now make facer vive and pan. Around to right and 499 00:39:39,28 --> 00:39:44,30 right after the Japanese formally surrendered dick on September second the Emperor 500 00:39:44,31 --> 00:39:50,40 surrounded Japan on he surrounded on August fourteenth he told the Japanese 501 00:39:50,41 --> 00:39:54,92 military the army navy air personnel that you no longer have to die for me the war 502 00:39:54,93 --> 00:40:00,52 was over and they saw what had because of Hiroshima Nagasaki you know eventually 503 00:40:00,53 --> 00:40:05,00 the war eventually the word got back that something awful has happened right at 504 00:40:05,01 --> 00:40:09,85 Hiroshima and Nagasaki nobody's picking up the phone you know we can't contact them 505 00:40:10,05 --> 00:40:16,00 something awful has happened here and it was the atomic bomb of course and at that 506 00:40:16,01 --> 00:40:18,58 point the Emperor surrenders and then 507 00:40:18,59 --> 00:40:23,62 a few weeks later MacArthur doesn't get his invasion Operation Downfall his 508 00:40:23,63 --> 00:40:29,69 invasion. The size of it was four times as he planned it was four times the size of 509 00:40:29,82 --> 00:40:32,06 D.-Day it would have made D.-Day look like 510 00:40:32,97 --> 00:40:38,72 a skirmish it all but it never happened instead MacArthur was directed to organize 511 00:40:38,73 --> 00:40:44,08 a surrender ceremony on the Aboard The aboard the U.S.S. 512 00:40:44,09 --> 00:40:46,36 Missouri and these guys afloat always has 513 00:40:46,37 --> 00:40:50,39 a floating around the ocean there and it need yeah yeah get pulled out of the line 514 00:40:50,40 --> 00:40:55,60 into plain sight come and go and well they had to drop the bombs the planes the 515 00:40:55,61 --> 00:41:00,31 planes dropped the bomb after they were rescued all they did yeah right there they 516 00:41:00,32 --> 00:41:04,57 were rescued on the fourth of August OK The the the bombs are dropped as I said on 517 00:41:04,58 --> 00:41:09,49 the sixth and I said Why goes OK but the sea planes come in and grab these guys and 518 00:41:09,50 --> 00:41:13,98 then also rescue ships come in yeah but the point is for the fifth time for 519 00:41:13,99 --> 00:41:19,70 audience please no one knew they were there they weren't supposed to be there this 520 00:41:19,71 --> 00:41:19,83 is 521 00:41:19,84 --> 00:41:25,18 a top secret mission couldn't they contact someone he went down the ship went down 522 00:41:25,19 --> 00:41:29,31 in twelve minutes he with all that chaos on board and make fates 523 00:41:29,32 --> 00:41:35,81 a good captain and this is for ship yeah it's his only ship my dad was an admiral 524 00:41:35,97 --> 00:41:41,07 in the Pacific and know enough to come and say Selo they got there they got some of 525 00:41:41,08 --> 00:41:46,35 them out but only by luck it's by luck Well they this guy follow that oil slick and 526 00:41:46,36 --> 00:41:51,25 there they were these heads all spread over the ocean I see bobbing in the water so 527 00:41:51,26 --> 00:41:58,17 make fake it's back am his court martial or court martial his court martial 528 00:41:58,35 --> 00:42:02,80 for three there were three charges leveled against MacPhail He's court martialed 529 00:42:02,81 --> 00:42:08,88 for hassling the ship failures court martialled interests in November December of 530 00:42:08,90 --> 00:42:13,76 ninety four although a lot as far as I knew well here we go here we go this is 531 00:42:13,77 --> 00:42:20,23 a big cover up Admiral Nimitz and Admiral Spruance wanted to let it go simply put 532 00:42:20,24 --> 00:42:27,20 a letter of reprimand and it was file. Captain Mick Fay is the 533 00:42:27,21 --> 00:42:32,99 only captain in the history of the United States military to be court martialed for 534 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:39,14 losing his ship due to enemy action the only one and you can take that back to the 535 00:42:39,15 --> 00:42:44,20 American Revolution Dick the let me say it again for our viewers Captain Charles 536 00:42:44,21 --> 00:42:51,04 McVeigh was the only captain ever court martialed for losing his ship due to enemy 537 00:42:51,19 --> 00:42:56,29 action almost four hundred captains lost their ships during World War two He was 538 00:42:56,30 --> 00:43:02,65 the only one he was scapegoated Why I'll tell you why now and then he was following 539 00:43:02,66 --> 00:43:07,70 a lot of sources three things he was court martialed for and the phrases hazarding 540 00:43:07,71 --> 00:43:12,16 his ship in other words not say exactly at night OK that was his discretion the 541 00:43:12,17 --> 00:43:16,54 weather was lousy I want to say fuel I want to proceed as quickly as I possibly got 542 00:43:16,55 --> 00:43:21,09 in there right what they perceive as quickly as possible using the cover of night 543 00:43:21,10 --> 00:43:26,70 you have to cover fog get to later. Gunnery practice for my gunners because I know 544 00:43:27,02 --> 00:43:32,88 I'll be attacked by kamikaze planes so I'm for has in the ship secondly for not 545 00:43:32,92 --> 00:43:34,30 abandoning the ship in 546 00:43:34,31 --> 00:43:41,07 a timely manner it went down in twelve minutes the place was it in and for are now 547 00:43:41,39 --> 00:43:45,24 in a timely manner that's the directions you give 548 00:43:45,25 --> 00:43:51,68 a professor that you need to return blue books and in research papers and timely 549 00:43:51,69 --> 00:43:56,51 Why did they take this action that led to the third leg of the war and thirdly 550 00:43:56,77 --> 00:43:59,25 thirdly there was a coverup there was 551 00:43:59,26 --> 00:44:04,23 a cover up this didn't happen no the cover up was you did not get send out 552 00:44:04,46 --> 00:44:11,07 a distress signal he did he did tick. The cover up was it was received and 553 00:44:11,08 --> 00:44:17,20 ignored all so we've got to cover that up we have to cover that up and blame the 554 00:44:17,21 --> 00:44:22,35 captain for hassling the ship Oh and for a failure to abandon ship in 555 00:44:22,36 --> 00:44:26,03 a timely manner and for failure to send out an S.O.S. 556 00:44:26,07 --> 00:44:27,66 I must scapegoating going on 557 00:44:27,67 --> 00:44:33,35 a base aps he walked the plank no pun intended scapegoating going on he testified 558 00:44:33,80 --> 00:44:38,69 why some of his crew members came by did they feel that was necessary to cover up 559 00:44:38,70 --> 00:44:43,56 the fact that with you no one in World War two three things happen in war well the 560 00:44:43,57 --> 00:44:49,30 enemy position Yeah it's called friendly fire sometimes you kill your own guys in 561 00:44:49,31 --> 00:44:50,13 this case it was 562 00:44:50,14 --> 00:44:54,68 a complete well we know this from World War two Two words that were career that 563 00:44:54,69 --> 00:45:01,31 were to became an acronyms one was FUBAR and one was snafu and we both know what 564 00:45:01,60 --> 00:45:05,60 what those acronyms mean whenever I put them on the board and asked What's what 565 00:45:05,61 --> 00:45:06,91 does that mean I'll say it so it's 566 00:45:06,92 --> 00:45:12,79 a acronym ask your mother what it stands for food bar and snafu this and the Navy 567 00:45:12,79 --> 00:45:12,99 was 568 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:19,32 a massive food bar here and they had to cover it up while I think because the enormity 569 00:45:19,81 --> 00:45:24,91 the enormity of the mistake nine hundred men in the water six hundred dead what was 570 00:45:24,92 --> 00:45:31,14 the mistake the mistake was not they did not respond to his distress call the 571 00:45:31,15 --> 00:45:34,05 mistake was nobody knew they were there they thought it was 572 00:45:34,06 --> 00:45:38,39 a ruse that the Japanese are luring in American radar you know Jay had set out 573 00:45:38,62 --> 00:45:43,05 a distress call but it was ignored tick it was ignored in the Navy said you never 574 00:45:43,06 --> 00:45:47,98 did he said I did all and it wasn't till nine hundred fifty I'll tell you when I 575 00:45:47,99 --> 00:45:53,36 was found out that he did I'll save that for our viewers so again hassling the ship 576 00:45:53,99 --> 00:45:56,03 failure to have to abandon ship in 577 00:45:56,04 --> 00:46:02,58 a timely manner to the ship was sinking. One hundred eighty seconds later right 578 00:46:03,15 --> 00:46:05,82 Thirdly no no S.O.S. 579 00:46:05,86 --> 00:46:10,32 He did send the also Wes Now why do you have to be scapegoated to cover up the 580 00:46:10,33 --> 00:46:16,16 Navy's mistake well and I mistake that they didn't respond to the S.O.S. 581 00:46:16,20 --> 00:46:21,19 Oh if that's the and that he had sent it in there saying you did not send it on the 582 00:46:21,20 --> 00:46:26,63 high sent it I sent it out that was discovered years and years later it was ignored 583 00:46:27,34 --> 00:46:31,32 wow because there's no ship out there what is this all about Indianapolis I never 584 00:46:31,33 --> 00:46:35,37 heard of the Indianapolis or what I see every mission there's no secret mission the 585 00:46:35,38 --> 00:46:37,29 ship's not the air we're being lured into 586 00:46:37,30 --> 00:46:44,23 a trap the his his crew members came and testified to defend him was no good as I 587 00:46:44,24 --> 00:46:48,04 started to say Admiral Nimitz an admiral Spruance just wanted 588 00:46:48,05 --> 00:46:54,63 a letter of reprimand in was file it was Admiral King who was an S O B C He was 589 00:46:54,67 --> 00:47:00,59 a by the book guy somebody has to walk the plank we made we made. 590 00:47:02,02 --> 00:47:07,12 Admiral Kimmel and Lieutenant General Walter short walk the plank for Pearl Harbor 591 00:47:07,94 --> 00:47:12,11 because we didn't tell Kimmel and short the Japanese were coming even though we had 592 00:47:12,12 --> 00:47:12,47 broken 593 00:47:12,48 --> 00:47:16,81 a code somebody has to walk the plank for Pearl Harbor somebody has to walk the 594 00:47:16,82 --> 00:47:19,40 plank for this for this reason the Normandy of 595 00:47:19,41 --> 00:47:25,82 a dick and I thought I had said follow it up and. The Wall had just ad and it had 596 00:47:25,83 --> 00:47:31,14 just ended its December of forty five yeah the enormity of it the enormity of it 597 00:47:31,15 --> 00:47:35,30 that and nine hundred men on the water and the fact there was 598 00:47:35,31 --> 00:47:40,64 a single ship we can only cover the sub for so long it's not like kamikaze attacks 599 00:47:40,65 --> 00:47:45,02 at Les take off in Okinawa where dozens of ships way and you can cover things up 600 00:47:45,03 --> 00:47:49,66 there with on their own right the Navy did it covered up close I mean covered up. 601 00:47:50,30 --> 00:47:51,78 Wapnick Fahey's that makes 602 00:47:51,79 --> 00:47:57,20 a why would they cover it up if it was led to the because it showed fault on the 603 00:47:57,21 --> 00:48:03,72 part of Naval High Command even though it was can lead to the end of the wall yeah 604 00:48:03,76 --> 00:48:09,74 it was king and Secretary of the Navy James Farmer stalls and we need 605 00:48:09,75 --> 00:48:16,48 a scapegoat here was because the family members thinking my son my 606 00:48:16,49 --> 00:48:21,53 husband my brother by neighbor. Ripped out of his what 607 00:48:21,54 --> 00:48:27,30 a way to die ripped out of his life jacket by these eating machines when when 608 00:48:27,91 --> 00:48:32,19 nobody came to rescue them well the reason they weren't rescued ma'am is because 609 00:48:32,29 --> 00:48:36,58 Captain MacPhail never got off an F. So S. He got off that S.O.S. 610 00:48:36,90 --> 00:48:37,36 But he's 611 00:48:37,37 --> 00:48:42,80 a captain but he did get it he got it off but as I said this is why he wished to go 612 00:48:42,81 --> 00:48:46,27 down with the ship why didn't they answer it if they thought it was 613 00:48:46,28 --> 00:48:50,74 a trick the Japanese were tricking them now you see McVeigh was not 614 00:48:50,75 --> 00:48:57,52 a survivor he survived physically but emotionally he never survived really and and 615 00:48:57,53 --> 00:49:02,47 he committed suicide he committed suicide in November of one nine hundred sixty 616 00:49:02,48 --> 00:49:06,40 eight which was the anniversary of when he first received news he was going to be 617 00:49:06,41 --> 00:49:12,11 court martialled he went through three marriages so he committed suicide and looked 618 00:49:12,12 --> 00:49:17,80 field Connecticut in his home and the tough time for here and for him was 619 00:49:17,81 --> 00:49:22,32 a Thanksgiving and Christmas because that's when the phone calls came that's when 620 00:49:22,33 --> 00:49:26,93 the cards came. That's when the lettuce came from people from family members who 621 00:49:26,94 --> 00:49:27,76 had who had lost 622 00:49:27,77 --> 00:49:34,23 a loved one on the Indianapolis why because you kept and did not zigzag why because 623 00:49:34,24 --> 00:49:37,20 you kept and did not give in abandon ship water in 624 00:49:37,21 --> 00:49:41,36 a timely manner why because you failed to send out 625 00:49:41,44 --> 00:49:47,70 a distress call all of which is on true that was the lie that the Navy gave the 626 00:49:47,71 --> 00:49:51,40 country are you surprised that the government lies that are you surprised at the 627 00:49:51,41 --> 00:49:57,90 government lies no of course not but that was not rectified to the present day it's 628 00:49:57,91 --> 00:50:02,03 been rectified I'm going to rectify it right now for you and I'm going to I'm going 629 00:50:02,04 --> 00:50:05,65 home but I mean officially Oh it's been officially rectified and I'm going to tell 630 00:50:05,66 --> 00:50:11,14 you how it got wrecked I'll tell you how it got right to. Tell me when it was I'll 631 00:50:11,15 --> 00:50:16,58 tell you how it got rectified All right. YOUNG BOY six of seventh eighth grader I 632 00:50:16,59 --> 00:50:22,08 know how old you are on the twelfth grade he lives in Pensacola Florida and 633 00:50:22,09 --> 00:50:23,07 a good seventy must have had 634 00:50:23,08 --> 00:50:27,70 a love of history and every year and we have one to two thousand and fifteen 635 00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:30,94 there's a National History Day and there's a topic 636 00:50:30,95 --> 00:50:34,36 a very broad topic and students are invited to write 637 00:50:34,40 --> 00:50:38,67 a term paper fully researched and they can win the award and it's wonderful on your 638 00:50:39,22 --> 00:50:44,76 on your college I know you are lying in this kid at the tender age of twelve in 639 00:50:44,77 --> 00:50:48,85 Pensacola Florida maybe his dad was an Army guy a Navy guy I don't know when it's 640 00:50:48,86 --> 00:50:51,98 a stand this is in one thousand nine hundred seventy Wow In one thousand nine 641 00:50:51,99 --> 00:50:57,18 hundred seventy the topic for the National History Day was triumph and tragedy the 642 00:50:57,19 --> 00:51:01,69 broad topic triumph and tragedy this year in two thousand and fifteen for anybody 643 00:51:01,70 --> 00:51:05,83 that's interested any students out there for this year in two thousand and fifteen 644 00:51:06,07 --> 00:51:09,81 the broad theme is leadership and legacy So you see 645 00:51:09,82 --> 00:51:14,39 a broad issue you can yeah you know you can fit in many many topics your so this 646 00:51:14,40 --> 00:51:18,65 kid somehow got wind of the story of the Indianapolis and what happened to make 647 00:51:18,66 --> 00:51:18,93 face 648 00:51:18,94 --> 00:51:24,88 a and how wrong it was so he wrote his essay on The only reason he interviewed this 649 00:51:24,89 --> 00:51:29,88 kid his name was Hunter Scott this kid interviewed one hundred fifty survivors 650 00:51:29,92 --> 00:51:34,24 really of the Indianapolis said he got the story in one thousand nine hundred seven 651 00:51:34,25 --> 00:51:39,88 put it out there it got picked up by the press he won the National Award I imagine 652 00:51:39,92 --> 00:51:45,48 Congress picked this up and he was invited to Congress to talk about the paper and 653 00:51:45,49 --> 00:51:51,43 to talk about his research and why face should be exonerated you know what he had 654 00:51:51,44 --> 00:51:56,61 with them I have no idea how with this kid got it he had kept the nick phase dog 655 00:51:56,62 --> 00:51:59,34 tax somebody slipped a dog with a with 656 00:51:59,35 --> 00:52:05,37 a thumb print in the back the ID print doc tax and he said I'm here to vindicate 657 00:52:05,95 --> 00:52:07,31 the captain that there was 658 00:52:07,32 --> 00:52:13,31 a coverup and Congress listened. And in the year two thousand he was fully 659 00:52:13,32 --> 00:52:18,66 vindicated there had been protests pardon me the Navy protests this oh I don't 660 00:52:18,67 --> 00:52:24,56 think so well you know I've read nothing where the Navy OK by two so when I run as 661 00:52:24,77 --> 00:52:30,84 always it was it was forty five fifty five years later one of the now and it's 662 00:52:30,85 --> 00:52:36,80 fifty five years later story and this kid and so this kid wanted the attention of 663 00:52:36,81 --> 00:52:41,88 the country to the Congress and Bill Clinton signed off on it and McVeigh was fully 664 00:52:41,89 --> 00:52:47,31 exonerated Wow And how old was he when bad happened if it was Step Family fake 665 00:52:47,32 --> 00:52:51,50 a minute suicide in November All right so he had no idea but nobody got you know it 666 00:52:51,65 --> 00:52:56,25 was fact during the during the during the when I said that ordering the trial 667 00:52:56,26 --> 00:53:00,96 during the court martial the United States Navy invited over Commander Hashimoto 668 00:53:01,59 --> 00:53:08,28 who was the commander of the I fifty eight and. Hashimoto was a Shinto became 669 00:53:08,29 --> 00:53:08,63 a ship to 670 00:53:08,64 --> 00:53:13,20 a priest after the war and he the Shinto shrine on board the ship and he prayed to 671 00:53:13,21 --> 00:53:18,17 the shrine that he would get at least one kill before the end of the war in the 672 00:53:18,18 --> 00:53:21,38 kill was the Indianapolis he became a priest he became 673 00:53:21,39 --> 00:53:28,26 a holy man after the war and they invited him to come to Washington to testify 674 00:53:28,53 --> 00:53:32,53 against Make face and to look at least shocked against makes 675 00:53:32,54 --> 00:53:36,36 a you know that if you had zigzagged I never would have got him with the game over 676 00:53:36,37 --> 00:53:41,14 which is what I do is McVeigh testifying testified and he talked about what I 677 00:53:41,15 --> 00:53:43,99 talked about you know and so they're bringing us from zero to win in one thousand 678 00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:48,47 nine hundred five from Japan to testify against McFate that if he had zigzag I 679 00:53:48,48 --> 00:53:54,21 never would have got him. The Hashimoto said it didn't matter I would have got them 680 00:53:54,22 --> 00:53:54,83 I'd lay down 681 00:53:54,87 --> 00:53:58,87 a spread of six torpedoes I would have gotten where they testified or not and they 682 00:53:58,88 --> 00:54:02,59 said that's enough Captain thank you very much we don't want to hear any more of 683 00:54:02,60 --> 00:54:07,13 that they sent him back that's not the story want you to tell so he became 684 00:54:07,14 --> 00:54:11,25 a Shinto priest and in one thousand nine hundred nine two years after this kid 685 00:54:12,19 --> 00:54:17,07 published this paper and I got it two years after the kid published this paper that 686 00:54:17,96 --> 00:54:18,46 he sent 687 00:54:18,50 --> 00:54:24,35 a letter to the president and to the I think one of status was the life they sent 688 00:54:24,42 --> 00:54:31,19 on forces the Senate Forces Committee the letter said the Japanese have 689 00:54:31,20 --> 00:54:38,19 forgiven you for Hiroshima Nagasaki you haven't forgiven us for the war isn't it 690 00:54:38,20 --> 00:54:43,64 time to forgive Captain MacPhail. And now you helped and that helped if you had you 691 00:54:43,65 --> 00:54:49,06 know that have that have helped to fuel the the full exoneration who would have to 692 00:54:49,07 --> 00:54:53,43 exonerate him that went into Clinton signed off on the all really Mandarin chief 693 00:54:53,44 --> 00:54:56,94 exonerated him good but make fade was dead make fade the day of 694 00:54:56,95 --> 00:55:02,42 a suicide in November of one thousand nine hundred sixty eight was home alone and 695 00:55:02,46 --> 00:55:06,93 he just could take it any more the depression the letters and he got out his 696 00:55:06,98 --> 00:55:08,84 uniform reached it creased 697 00:55:08,85 --> 00:55:14,34 a crease that iron an absolute razor crease honest rousers had a haircut got 698 00:55:14,35 --> 00:55:20,56 a haircut spit polish to shoes. Went out into the garden shot himself in the head 699 00:55:20,63 --> 00:55:27,29 holding a toy sailor that his father had given him as a gift when he was 700 00:55:27,30 --> 00:55:33,62 a child nobody could make up this story. That's why history is so appealing you 701 00:55:33,63 --> 00:55:38,93 can't make those stories up how old was he when he did this so well he would have 702 00:55:38,94 --> 00:55:43,24 been he was twenty and maybe in his fifties but he couldn't take it he had already 703 00:55:43,25 --> 00:55:48,26 got exonerated right but he was dead he could exonerate and in two thousand zero 704 00:55:48,27 --> 00:55:52,06 eight he shot himself in sixty eight zero zero even today down to the sea ending 705 00:55:52,07 --> 00:55:57,73 tick both Kimmel and short have not been fully exonerated for Pearl Harbor they've 706 00:55:57,74 --> 00:56:03,52 been cleared of dereliction of duty but they have not been fully exonerated What is 707 00:56:03,53 --> 00:56:09,56 the country care now about that if you don't share the bio would exonerating these 708 00:56:09,57 --> 00:56:13,42 men that's what I mean because they want to that's what I mean why would they it's 709 00:56:13,43 --> 00:56:17,70 all because it's hard to admit you're wrong you know when to have when are they 710 00:56:17,71 --> 00:56:23,90 wrong when you're an officer and you're the commander. You could only roll it down 711 00:56:23,91 --> 00:56:28,84 hill Well Roosevelt rolled it downhill to these two guys Kimmel in short had to 712 00:56:28,85 --> 00:56:33,09 walk the plank for a stall sector the Navy King a hard 713 00:56:33,73 --> 00:56:39,00 a hard guy I almost said the other word that this guy is the fall guy and he's 714 00:56:39,01 --> 00:56:44,56 going to walk the way for the sinking of the you now plus and that story never gets 715 00:56:44,57 --> 00:56:50,85 told but it will be told Memorial Day of twenty sixteen and the film will be 716 00:56:50,87 --> 00:56:55,49 released as I said Nicolas Cage is playing McVeigh on this one this is next year or 717 00:56:55,49 --> 00:57:01,81 next Maya day next Memorial Day Really you see and Memorial Day when it was 718 00:57:01,81 --> 00:57:07,95 a officially designated one and it was designated to celebrate those who died in 719 00:57:07,97 --> 00:57:12,80 action. Now today it's been broadened to include servicemen A family members and so 720 00:57:12,81 --> 00:57:17,07 forth you know but there's a story for the seating boy and there's a story of 721 00:57:17,08 --> 00:57:21,40 a Veteran's Day and the end of World War two right and 722 00:57:21,44 --> 00:57:24,47 a terrible wrong that finally was righted because 723 00:57:24,48 --> 00:57:30,45 a twelve year old sixth grader wrote an essay for National History Day which caught 724 00:57:30,46 --> 00:57:35,51 the attention of the country the Congress and Bill Clinton who exonerated that's 725 00:57:35,52 --> 00:57:38,06 happened child spineless story and you tell 726 00:57:38,07 --> 00:57:42,82 a very well as you always do well and now it's people do not feel most people do 727 00:57:42,83 --> 00:57:47,09 not know that story Dick and I thought we thought that it was an important story to 728 00:57:47,10 --> 00:57:52,32 get out on the eve of Veterans Day which is Wednesday Absolutely and again I thank 729 00:57:52,33 --> 00:57:56,16 those heroes out there that are watching and you were sure that you got this story 730 00:57:56,17 --> 00:57:58,48 out of the places once it was at 731 00:57:58,49 --> 00:58:02,95 a bar will now go borrow Well yeah when we had that veterans' breakfast so we have 732 00:58:02,96 --> 00:58:08,12 to say right now thank you all for watching we add and I thank you if you enjoy 733 00:58:08,13 --> 00:58:14,17 that great tale good show yeah. You think it 734 00:58:14,18 --> 00:58:18,82 blew through the you know 735 00:58:18,83 --> 00:58:22,83 what 736 00:58:22,84 --> 00:58:33,38 what 737 00:58:33,39 --> 00:58:36,01 what 738 00:58:36,02 --> 00:58:42,17 what what 739 00:58:42,18 --> 00:58:45,34 with.