WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:26.080 Welcome to the Changing Paradigm. 00:26.080 --> 00:33.080 I'm Dr. Patricia Hill and in this continuing series on extraterrestrial and interdimensional 00:33.080 --> 00:39.560 intelligence my guest today is a very interesting woman, Carolyn Smith, who has been receiving 00:39.560 --> 00:45.360 information from another dimension through something like automatic writing. 00:45.360 --> 00:47.840 Could you tell us a little bit more about that Carolyn? 00:47.840 --> 00:48.880 Yes. 00:48.880 --> 00:55.960 What I am doing is receiving information from the unified field which is the quantum soup 00:55.960 --> 01:03.360 that Albert Einstein described and that Deepak Chopra writes about in some of his books. 01:03.360 --> 01:07.880 It's the source of all creativity and all creation. 01:07.880 --> 01:11.000 Is that something like the collective conscious? 01:11.000 --> 01:13.360 Exactly, very much that. 01:13.360 --> 01:21.100 It is actually the repository of all that has ever been and it's all stored digitally. 01:21.100 --> 01:25.920 It's information, it's all the information of everything that's ever happened. 01:25.920 --> 01:28.840 That's part of what's very interesting about what you're doing. 01:28.840 --> 01:33.320 I saw the actual writing that you're doing and it looks like computer language. 01:33.320 --> 01:34.320 Some of it does. 01:34.320 --> 01:36.240 Some of it looks like hydraulics. 01:36.240 --> 01:40.600 Some of it looks like faxes and modem language. 01:40.600 --> 01:43.040 It's been fascinating for me to do this. 01:43.040 --> 01:44.400 But you're getting this by hand. 01:44.400 --> 01:46.120 It's not coming through a computer. 01:46.120 --> 01:55.480 No, I'm writing it with a pen on typing paper and I get a feeling that I need to write and 01:55.480 --> 01:58.640 I sit down with the paper and the pen and then it just comes. 01:58.640 --> 01:59.640 It just starts happening. 01:59.640 --> 02:00.640 And it's fascinating. 02:00.640 --> 02:04.000 It's really excellent news too. 02:04.000 --> 02:06.880 The content of it is very interesting. 02:06.880 --> 02:12.560 We've talked earlier and I've seen how many pages, 3,000 pages that you've gotten through 02:12.560 --> 02:14.040 this method. 02:14.040 --> 02:16.800 How long has this been going on? 02:16.800 --> 02:18.840 Since last April. 02:18.840 --> 02:23.440 Since last April you've written 3,000 pages by this automatic writing. 02:23.440 --> 02:26.760 I would have loved to have had them published but nobody seems to be paying attention at 02:26.760 --> 02:27.760 the moment. 02:27.760 --> 02:29.280 But the news is all really good. 02:29.280 --> 02:34.360 Well, I understand you've received a grant actually to further your work. 02:34.360 --> 02:35.360 Yes, I did. 02:35.360 --> 02:46.760 I got the first grant from the Jaguar Herba Mate Foundation in Aspen and they are importing 02:46.760 --> 02:57.040 a natural herb to make a tea to help sponsor peace and harmony among us. 02:57.040 --> 02:59.160 They're doing some environmental work too I believe. 02:59.160 --> 03:04.800 They're buying large tracts of land and trying to preserve them in South America. 03:04.800 --> 03:14.240 Yes, we're trying to preserve the earth and what my work does is describe the reality, 03:14.240 --> 03:19.200 the real reality that exists as only one. 03:19.200 --> 03:20.880 It's virtual reality. 03:20.880 --> 03:24.880 It's four dimensions. 03:24.880 --> 03:30.160 The dimension that we're in now is three dimensions and it's CD mode. 03:30.160 --> 03:34.120 CD mode, what does that stand for? 03:34.120 --> 03:35.800 It stands for several different things. 03:35.800 --> 03:41.760 I like to call it complex dilemmas because in this world that we've created right here 03:41.760 --> 03:46.520 just about everything is a complex dilemma but also control drama as in the Celestine 03:46.520 --> 03:49.520 prophecy and charge density. 03:49.520 --> 03:54.360 There are a number of things that it stands for but what it is is a three dimensional 03:54.360 --> 04:05.880 world in which order and control are the basic principles and what we're doing now is moving 04:05.880 --> 04:11.960 into chaos because that's what happens when you try to order and control and limit human 04:11.960 --> 04:17.000 beings who are in fact autonomous and free and equal. 04:17.000 --> 04:21.040 But sometimes chaos is the predecessor to a new order. 04:21.040 --> 04:26.680 Well, the longer we maintain a CD world the more chaos we'll be seeing. 04:26.680 --> 04:28.440 It'll totally break down in other words. 04:28.440 --> 04:32.160 A lot of us have been receiving some of this information the same as I have. 04:32.160 --> 04:33.440 I'm just an ordinary person. 04:33.440 --> 04:37.040 There's nothing extraordinary about me except that I just happen to be the lucky one to 04:37.040 --> 04:39.360 get there first. 04:39.360 --> 04:42.480 You just got the automatic writing before anybody else. 04:42.480 --> 04:47.520 What I've been doing for the last ten months is being in virtual reality and experiencing 04:47.520 --> 04:49.160 it and describing it. 04:49.160 --> 04:55.280 My work describes what the differences are between what we know and what's there because 04:55.280 --> 04:59.600 we're right at the point where we're about to move into virtual reality. 04:59.600 --> 05:03.960 When people understand it they will definitely choose it and it is an individual choice. 05:03.960 --> 05:07.360 Tell us what you mean by virtual reality. 05:07.360 --> 05:15.060 Virtual reality is four dimensions of experience and it's the completion of a circle. 05:15.060 --> 05:24.200 In CD mode and as humanity has advanced we have sort of thought of learning and experience 05:24.200 --> 05:29.680 as a pyramidal or triangular in shape, something that you climb to the top of and then there's 05:29.680 --> 05:32.840 one person up there and everybody else is below that person. 05:32.840 --> 05:34.360 When lose kind of situation. 05:34.360 --> 05:38.760 Exactly, hierarchy and imbalance. 05:38.760 --> 05:44.520 What we're moving over into is virtual reality where everyone is equal, everyone's autonomous. 05:44.520 --> 05:50.960 That means he or she owns only his or herself and nothing more. 05:50.960 --> 05:53.600 Even all the animals the same way. 05:53.600 --> 05:54.600 It's a state of consciousness. 05:54.600 --> 05:57.960 Yes it is, it's a higher state of consciousness. 05:57.960 --> 06:00.360 It's a higher quantum energy level. 06:00.360 --> 06:05.560 There are three different quantum energy levels and the first one is CD, I mean lizard mode 06:05.560 --> 06:08.920 which is linear or apparent reality. 06:08.920 --> 06:11.040 Lizard mode, does that refer to? 06:11.040 --> 06:13.600 That's a very respectful term to the lizard. 06:13.600 --> 06:20.760 We have a reptilian mid-brain that governs the autonomic system and that brain does not 06:20.760 --> 06:21.760 think. 06:21.760 --> 06:27.240 What it does is react, it acts and reacts and it is fight or flight thinking. 06:27.240 --> 06:29.040 It's totally for survival. 06:29.040 --> 06:30.040 That's exactly right. 06:30.040 --> 06:35.000 Reptiles will eat their own children to survive. 06:35.000 --> 06:40.680 In lizard mode you're only experiencing two dimensions and it is literally life threatening 06:40.680 --> 06:45.080 and that is why it's so critically important that we meet the basic needs of everyone on 06:45.080 --> 06:46.080 this earth. 06:46.080 --> 06:49.880 If we want to be safe we need to be doing that and we have ways of doing it and that's 06:49.880 --> 06:52.640 what my work is about. 06:52.640 --> 06:56.560 Well it certainly would be nice if we could move up out of some of those lower levels 06:56.560 --> 07:00.120 of consciousness and into that, what you call virtual reality. 07:00.120 --> 07:02.680 I think it would be a much better world. 07:02.680 --> 07:09.600 Well it's interesting that in VR is located all the wisdom, all the truth, all the understanding 07:09.600 --> 07:14.920 and in the mode that we're in, which is an actual reality or three dimensional, we don't 07:14.920 --> 07:18.160 really even understand anything. 07:18.160 --> 07:20.520 We think we do, we know a lot. 07:20.520 --> 07:25.520 But what we actually know when you study anything, you actually do a circle around it and you 07:25.520 --> 07:29.440 can get 360 different facts about it and then you know that. 07:29.440 --> 07:34.960 But what you know and what you understand are two different mutually exclusive states 07:34.960 --> 07:35.960 of awareness. 07:35.960 --> 07:40.080 Is this more related to intuition and that sort of thing? 07:40.080 --> 07:46.440 Intuition is when you respond to your feelings of intuition, you are responding to your real 07:46.440 --> 07:52.920 self, which is the only place your real self exists is in virtual reality. 07:52.920 --> 07:57.840 And in virtual reality you've been there every time you were having fun, when you were sharing, 07:57.840 --> 08:00.400 if you're creating art or music. 08:00.400 --> 08:01.400 When you're in the flow in other words. 08:01.400 --> 08:03.840 When you're celebrating, yes exactly. 08:03.840 --> 08:08.640 It's the full four dimensions that we were born to be. 08:08.640 --> 08:09.880 Well how do we get into that? 08:09.880 --> 08:12.940 How can we all experience that more? 08:12.940 --> 08:19.000 It helps to listen to yourself, your own thoughts actually are the most important thing about 08:19.000 --> 08:22.360 you because your life is about you and mine is about me. 08:22.360 --> 08:27.480 And our experiences are disconnected from each other except that they're connected by 08:27.480 --> 08:29.120 the self. 08:29.120 --> 08:32.880 And we're actually choosing them and the real self is choosing them. 08:32.880 --> 08:39.440 And when we are in VR and stay there, then we understand what our special talent is and 08:39.440 --> 08:44.400 what we're here to be doing and what we can do to be helpful to the rest of humanity, 08:44.400 --> 08:47.440 to our world, to make it a better place. 08:47.440 --> 08:50.440 It sounds like what Abraham Maslow called self-actualization. 08:50.440 --> 08:51.440 Exactly. 08:51.440 --> 08:56.520 It is a self-actualized person when you're in VR. 08:56.520 --> 08:58.360 That is your real self. 08:58.360 --> 09:05.120 If you are, if the things in CD mode or actual reality make sense to you, then you're not 09:05.120 --> 09:07.120 experiencing your real self. 09:07.120 --> 09:09.920 Are you familiar with the term peak performance? 09:09.920 --> 09:15.240 Yes, and athletes in peak performance would be accessing VR. 09:15.240 --> 09:16.240 Right. 09:16.240 --> 09:17.920 I'm quite familiar with that myself. 09:17.920 --> 09:25.200 I've experienced an altered state of consciousness in athletics and suddenly everything changes. 09:25.200 --> 09:26.600 It moves more slowly. 09:26.600 --> 09:28.880 It's much easier. 09:28.880 --> 09:29.880 It feels right. 09:29.880 --> 09:33.160 It's perfect and you're having the performance of your life during that time. 09:33.160 --> 09:34.440 And it's a spiral of fun. 09:34.440 --> 09:35.440 That's exactly what VR is. 09:35.440 --> 09:36.440 It is a spiral of fun. 09:36.440 --> 09:37.440 That's exactly what it is. 09:37.440 --> 09:38.440 That's exactly what it is. 09:38.440 --> 09:42.240 You remember that as a very high and fun moment in your life. 09:42.240 --> 09:47.040 And you'll notice that when you're in that mode, everything works perfectly. 09:47.040 --> 09:52.200 In virtual reality, time and money and any numbered systems or one-way or unbalanced 09:52.200 --> 09:54.480 systems do not exist. 09:54.480 --> 09:58.000 And so it's just sharing. 09:58.000 --> 10:00.480 You recognize everyone there. 10:00.480 --> 10:05.180 You are your best and full self in virtual reality. 10:05.180 --> 10:06.400 It sounds great. 10:06.400 --> 10:08.720 I wish I could be in that more of the time. 10:08.720 --> 10:10.040 Well that's your natural state. 10:10.040 --> 10:11.960 That's what we were born to do. 10:11.960 --> 10:18.840 Animals are nearly always in virtual reality except when they're being interfered with. 10:18.840 --> 10:20.480 And then they become into firefight mode. 10:20.480 --> 10:22.480 Then they go into firefight mode. 10:22.480 --> 10:23.480 Exactly. 10:23.480 --> 10:24.480 Survival oriented. 10:24.480 --> 10:31.840 They don't have the complex cognitive intuitive, I mean integrated intellectual thought processes 10:31.840 --> 10:33.440 that humans have. 10:33.440 --> 10:36.920 I think children too up to a certain point in their lives are probably in that state 10:36.920 --> 10:37.920 of consciousness. 10:37.920 --> 10:38.920 Exactly. 10:38.920 --> 10:40.080 We are born this way. 10:40.080 --> 10:41.600 We understand it when we're children. 10:41.600 --> 10:43.880 We know exactly how the world is supposed to be. 10:43.880 --> 10:50.080 And in fact, in virtual reality, it is exactly as a child knows it is. 10:50.080 --> 10:53.340 You have a right to live. 10:53.340 --> 10:57.240 Just because you exist, you're born and you have a right to live. 10:57.240 --> 11:02.280 You shouldn't have to have money to live as we built a world in which people must have 11:02.280 --> 11:04.640 money or they will die. 11:04.640 --> 11:10.000 And truly, the people that are out there acting out their truth is that they cannot meet their 11:10.000 --> 11:11.000 basic needs. 11:11.000 --> 11:12.480 Well, that certainly is true. 11:12.480 --> 11:16.880 I think there's a lot of desperation in this world that causes people to go into those 11:16.880 --> 11:22.600 modes of consciousness such as the reptilian in which they would kill even for their own 11:22.600 --> 11:23.600 survival. 11:23.600 --> 11:26.880 But there's no thought in the lizard mode. 11:26.880 --> 11:28.880 That's just a reaction. 11:28.880 --> 11:32.600 Yes, and they really have no ability to explain anything. 11:32.600 --> 11:37.600 It's a different state of awareness from CD mode and from virtual reality. 11:37.600 --> 11:40.240 There are three different quantum energy levels. 11:40.240 --> 11:44.200 And if you're in one, you can't even be aware of the others. 11:44.200 --> 11:49.280 It's like a figure and ground relationship, that design that's two silhouettes facing 11:49.280 --> 11:52.880 each other and it's either a vase or faces. 11:52.880 --> 11:55.040 You choose which one you're seeing. 11:55.040 --> 11:59.720 And in fact, the human, once the basic needs are met, is always choosing which state of 11:59.720 --> 12:02.040 reality he or she is in. 12:02.040 --> 12:07.040 As a matter of fact, I know very well that, because I'm a psychophysiologist, that the 12:07.040 --> 12:12.680 brain, when you go into fight or flight or into that survival mode, literally shuts down. 12:12.680 --> 12:17.000 The whole higher level of your thought just cancels out. 12:17.000 --> 12:18.480 You're not even in it at all. 12:18.480 --> 12:22.440 So you become like an animal or you become like a reptile. 12:22.440 --> 12:23.440 Exactly. 12:23.440 --> 12:29.240 And you hop right down to what you call lizard mode and act in that way, very territorial. 12:29.240 --> 12:31.440 It's fear. 12:31.440 --> 12:33.720 It's experiencing fear and pain. 12:33.720 --> 12:38.280 In fact, fear and pain are experienced only in lizard mode. 12:38.280 --> 12:44.000 In virtual reality, there is no pain, there's no imbalance. 12:44.000 --> 12:50.280 The one dimension that is common to everything in virtual reality is, believe it or not, 12:50.280 --> 12:51.280 fun. 12:51.280 --> 12:55.480 It's excitement, feeling good. 12:55.480 --> 13:02.380 Athletes often report this, that they'll be in a performance and they may have had an 13:02.380 --> 13:07.320 injury but they weren't even aware until they were finished with a game that they had a 13:07.320 --> 13:08.560 serious injury. 13:08.560 --> 13:14.560 They played right through, they had no pain, they had no consciousness of that level. 13:14.560 --> 13:16.840 They were just having such a good time. 13:16.840 --> 13:24.360 One of the things in my life, and now that I know what I do for a living, I realize now 13:24.360 --> 13:28.440 that one of the things that brought my attention to that point was a bicycle accident that 13:28.440 --> 13:29.440 I had. 13:29.440 --> 13:33.640 I was having fun while I had it and it was a sudden thing and we were going very fast 13:33.640 --> 13:39.480 and I ended up out cold on the asphalt in the street, entangled in my bike. 13:39.480 --> 13:42.820 And I was seriously injured but I never felt a thing. 13:42.820 --> 13:48.480 And I just got up after I woke up and I got up and orchestrated all the children that 13:48.480 --> 13:53.320 were with us and got us home and then I saw that I needed to be in the emergency room. 13:53.320 --> 13:59.640 This happens often too in car accidents or in emergencies that people report everything 13:59.640 --> 14:02.000 becoming in slow motion. 14:02.000 --> 14:07.320 They're very rational, they know exactly what to do, they handle it very carefully and very 14:07.320 --> 14:11.360 slowly, and it comes out fine for them. 14:11.360 --> 14:14.920 They survived the accident and everybody's taken care of. 14:14.920 --> 14:19.160 They even lift a car off somebody and do things that... 14:19.160 --> 14:23.320 We actually, human beings are the most sophisticated computer that has ever been devised. 14:23.320 --> 14:27.880 Yes, well we can tap into other things beyond ourselves so obviously that happens. 14:27.880 --> 14:30.200 A normal human being cannot lift a car. 14:30.200 --> 14:31.200 Certainly not. 14:31.200 --> 14:35.120 But when they are in that mode of consciousness they can actually do things that are super 14:35.120 --> 14:36.920 human. 14:36.920 --> 14:42.640 The key to virtual reality is keeping your energy up and that means eating, but not according 14:42.640 --> 14:47.280 to three meals a day, eating when food occurs to you, whatever food it is, go browsing in 14:47.280 --> 14:51.600 the grocery store, look in the produce section, see what appeals to you and if it appeals, 14:51.600 --> 14:52.920 buy it and eat it. 14:52.920 --> 14:55.720 That's what your body is telling you what it wants. 14:55.720 --> 15:00.800 We do have an inner sense and there have been studies done on that with children for instance 15:00.800 --> 15:08.200 that babies, they've been put in a room with bowls of food and just allowed to pick out 15:08.200 --> 15:12.400 whatever they wanted and they actually would pick out quite a healthy and balanced diet 15:12.400 --> 15:13.400 for themselves. 15:13.400 --> 15:16.840 And in that way you maximize all your abilities. 15:16.840 --> 15:18.080 It's been very interesting to me. 15:18.080 --> 15:23.020 For instance, part of my work has been to eat different kinds of foods and then see 15:23.020 --> 15:27.000 what abilities that enables. 15:27.000 --> 15:31.420 In virtual reality there is no voice mode. 15:31.420 --> 15:32.420 Talking is not done. 15:32.420 --> 15:33.840 It's telepathic. 15:33.840 --> 15:41.240 It's somewhat like ESP, in fact it is ESP and the voice is used only for laughing and 15:41.240 --> 15:42.900 singing and things like that. 15:42.900 --> 15:49.840 And so once you've been in VR for a while you lose the ability to talk and eating dairy 15:49.840 --> 15:55.640 products interestingly enough is what you have to do to be able to control your energy 15:55.640 --> 15:58.680 level enough to stay in VR and still talk. 15:58.680 --> 16:03.760 It probably kind of brings you down a little more into your body so that you can connect 16:03.760 --> 16:06.080 and speak. 16:06.080 --> 16:07.080 That's right. 16:07.080 --> 16:09.400 But it helps to practice too. 16:09.400 --> 16:10.800 I'm sure it does. 16:10.800 --> 16:16.440 I'm curious about this device and if you could explain it to us. 16:16.440 --> 16:21.920 You told me earlier that you feel that this demonstrates the levels of consciousness. 16:21.920 --> 16:27.160 In many ways this is a perfect example of the way reality really is. 16:27.160 --> 16:33.480 You've got a spiral that's got three different levels and you've got a number of different 16:33.480 --> 16:36.000 colored beads that are moving. 16:36.000 --> 16:41.440 It's a system, a hydraulic type system and the beads are pulled down below and they go 16:41.440 --> 16:47.800 up the central tube and they go right out and hit the top of the liquid and then they 16:47.800 --> 16:50.000 fall down at different levels. 16:50.000 --> 16:54.000 And this is fairly representative of how humans are. 16:54.000 --> 16:56.360 They're all different colors. 16:56.360 --> 17:02.520 As you can see each bead is always moving and there's no point in discussing any judgments 17:02.520 --> 17:07.000 of others or measurements or comparisons between humans because by the time you even think 17:07.000 --> 17:10.040 of it both of you have moved to a different place. 17:10.040 --> 17:17.400 You can't even, we are actually a dynamic energy system within dynamic energy systems 17:17.400 --> 17:20.120 and that's what our reality really is. 17:20.120 --> 17:24.920 And as you can see occasionally one of the beads will get stuck but the others just keep 17:24.920 --> 17:25.920 on moving. 17:25.920 --> 17:30.920 Some of them ride all the way down the three levels and some fall down to the second level 17:30.920 --> 17:33.320 and this is the way humans actually are. 17:33.320 --> 17:44.560 And so what I've learned is that three quarters of our language is about levels of unreality, 17:44.560 --> 17:46.600 CD mode and lizard mode. 17:46.600 --> 17:53.640 They describe activities that are done in an unreal world because VR is the only mode 17:53.640 --> 17:57.840 in which anything is actually actualized. 17:57.840 --> 18:03.080 It's very confusing and that's why it took a hundred years to prove Einstein's theories 18:03.080 --> 18:05.840 about the unified field. 18:05.840 --> 18:08.120 But this is the design. 18:08.120 --> 18:11.440 It's almost exactly how it is. 18:11.440 --> 18:15.840 It is a simultaneous and multi-dimensional reality. 18:15.840 --> 18:23.920 You mentioned earlier that you were combining Einstein's theory of relativity and the unified 18:23.920 --> 18:28.040 field theory in this work that you're doing. 18:28.040 --> 18:30.200 Explain to us a little bit more about that if you would. 18:30.200 --> 18:33.960 Well his theory of relativity, the way I like to say it and it makes it a lot simpler is 18:33.960 --> 18:39.520 there are only so many ways that anything can be related to anything else. 18:39.520 --> 18:46.280 There's the same, then there's reverse, then obverse and then there's mirror image. 18:46.280 --> 18:52.180 And the last relationship is the one that Einstein didn't get and because of that he 18:52.180 --> 18:56.640 had two theories that he believed were true but he felt that they were paradoxical, that 18:56.640 --> 18:58.160 they contradicted each other. 18:58.160 --> 19:03.760 In fact they do not because my work operates as a bridge between the two and also between 19:03.760 --> 19:07.740 the work of Bill Gates of Microsoft. 19:07.740 --> 19:12.000 That's what the field is telling me anyway, that my work is a circuit that completes a 19:12.000 --> 19:15.120 circuit between these men's work. 19:15.120 --> 19:24.120 And what it tells us is that it's somewhat of an umbrella that fits into each of the 19:24.120 --> 19:34.240 disciplines of knowledge such as psychology, philosophy, religion, quantum physics and 19:34.240 --> 19:41.760 it allows us to understand the wholeness because virtual reality is the wholeness. 19:41.760 --> 19:43.600 It's all that is. 19:43.600 --> 19:48.760 You seem very well versed in all these physics and mathematical terms. 19:48.760 --> 19:50.280 Do you have a background in science? 19:50.280 --> 19:51.280 I have, yes. 19:51.280 --> 19:58.880 I was a scholarship student of the National Science Foundation when I was in high school 19:58.880 --> 20:04.480 and I was invited to join a course that was given in the summer at University of North 20:04.480 --> 20:08.040 Carolina at Raleigh, it was called State College then. 20:08.040 --> 20:12.680 The first one was advanced biology and then I had a second year and the second course 20:12.680 --> 20:20.080 was in the school mathematics study groups first course after the Sputnik and everyone 20:20.080 --> 20:24.960 panicked that America wasn't educating its children right. 20:24.960 --> 20:29.320 I think it was a Manhattan group got together and designed a new mathematics for people 20:29.320 --> 20:33.600 who would go on to become physicists and I did not go on and get a degree but I have 20:33.600 --> 20:39.960 continued my independent study for 32 years and it has yielded these amazing results. 20:39.960 --> 20:45.800 Well obviously and now you've tapped into something even beyond yourself so you probably 20:45.800 --> 20:50.360 wouldn't be able to understand some of this unless you had a background in science. 20:50.360 --> 20:55.920 The mathematics was calculus which is the mathematics that describes quantum physics 20:55.920 --> 21:04.000 and yes I always did them better the short way rather than the long way but actually 21:04.000 --> 21:10.240 it's a right brained way of approaching the thing and Einstein's way was the ultimate 21:10.240 --> 21:14.960 left brained way of approaching the same subject and we meet in the center. 21:14.960 --> 21:20.000 Well I think that's a lot of what's happening now is that left brained science is coming 21:20.000 --> 21:25.600 together with right brained philosophy and religion and the two are melding together. 21:25.600 --> 21:30.480 Because when you understand my work then you see that every area of study is in fact the 21:30.480 --> 21:32.680 same thing it's all the same thing. 21:32.680 --> 21:36.560 What we don't know is who are we what are we doing here how do we get here where we 21:36.560 --> 21:41.560 come from and what are we supposed to be doing and my work describes those answers. 21:41.560 --> 21:43.440 Oh can you tell us the answers to those questions? 21:43.440 --> 21:48.920 Yes we're supposed to be enjoying this we're supposed to learn who we are it's an exploration 21:48.920 --> 21:55.440 of experiencing being me and we're supposed to be having fun it's just because it's there 21:55.440 --> 22:02.040 this is we have this it is pretty and that's enough reason you know because it's fun because 22:02.040 --> 22:09.040 we get to share with each other and learn all the different people that we can be anytime 22:09.040 --> 22:12.480 we choose all possibilities and no limits. 22:12.480 --> 22:17.000 Well that seems like a lot more positive way to think about this life experience than some 22:17.000 --> 22:24.200 of the explanations by certain religions and such that make us feel guilty and as if we're 22:24.200 --> 22:25.560 being punished. 22:25.560 --> 22:32.760 I can't understand why no one ever noticed that truth and beauty and understanding and 22:32.760 --> 22:37.360 all that is sexy it's sexy and fun all the good stuff that you've ever enjoyed is in 22:37.360 --> 22:42.580 VR and everything that you didn't like very much is in CD and lizard mode. 22:42.580 --> 22:47.960 But sexy and fun have been bad words in most of our upbringing those of us who grew up 22:47.960 --> 22:50.600 in fairly strict environments. 22:50.600 --> 22:52.040 Just get ready for fast changes. 22:52.040 --> 22:54.560 So is that what we're moving into? 22:54.560 --> 23:00.920 It's a whole new paradigm it's a whole new way of looking at reality as I said before 23:00.920 --> 23:09.800 it was pretty much in a pyramidal or triangular form and in fact the physics for each level 23:09.800 --> 23:14.440 is different for instance in lizard mode we're talking mechanical things the lever and a 23:14.440 --> 23:18.640 simple hydraulic system movement of water from a body down to where you want to grow 23:18.640 --> 23:24.840 something and then when you move that's a switch an on and off either on or off and 23:24.840 --> 23:29.400 then you move into CD mode and that's triangulation and then you have a positive and a negative 23:29.400 --> 23:36.920 and a neutral ground and in fact people triangulate and people have valence and my work is just 23:36.920 --> 23:42.320 fascinating because it discusses how does the valence change when does your valence 23:42.320 --> 23:45.880 change and how does the universe bring to you the things that you choose because we're 23:45.880 --> 23:50.040 designed to create exactly what we desire and have it instantly. 23:50.040 --> 23:52.960 When you're talking about valence do you mean something like an energy field? 23:52.960 --> 24:00.080 Yes exactly a positive or negative energy and at the moment that we make a choice then 24:00.080 --> 24:05.160 our valence changes and then the universe starts to move to create the forces we are 24:05.160 --> 24:10.800 creating our own reality on an instantaneous basis and my work describes how we are doing 24:10.800 --> 24:15.480 that so that we can stop doing it the way we're doing it and do it the way we choose. 24:15.480 --> 24:21.000 So if we're very negative we draw negative experiences to ourselves. 24:21.000 --> 24:24.280 Absolutely if you're worried you bring about the very thing you're worried about because 24:24.280 --> 24:27.880 we're doing it by what we believe and keep in our minds. 24:27.880 --> 24:32.880 I truly believe that I am a great believer in positive thinking and positive visualization 24:32.880 --> 24:37.800 and I know that that works I've tried it myself I've also used it professionally and I see 24:37.800 --> 24:39.760 the results of that. 24:39.760 --> 24:45.480 My work demonstrates that we are either humans are either an energizer of others that it 24:45.480 --> 24:52.560 means that we do no harm first and that we share freely what we have with all others 24:52.560 --> 24:59.240 whom we encounter in which case we're an energizer and we help and enable others to create what 24:59.240 --> 25:04.960 they want to do or else we're an energy snatcher or an energy grabber. 25:04.960 --> 25:05.960 A vampire. 25:05.960 --> 25:06.960 Robber. 25:06.960 --> 25:11.760 I've been around people like that who just drain me I feel utterly exhausted. 25:11.760 --> 25:15.480 It is exhausting they can send you right into lizard mode you have to be careful who you 25:15.480 --> 25:20.320 spend time around and you also need to pay attention to eating every time a food occurs 25:20.320 --> 25:25.920 to you you need to be eating and drinking water in CD mode one of the problems is we 25:25.920 --> 25:32.160 have no idea how much clean clear filtered water right now we need filtered water we 25:32.160 --> 25:33.280 need to be drinking. 25:33.280 --> 25:37.000 How much water is that that we need to be drinking? 25:37.000 --> 25:40.400 About three or four times as much as they say the eight. 25:40.400 --> 25:45.000 You mean like twenty four glasses of water a lot more so that but we're not supposed 25:45.000 --> 25:50.880 to be working see our natural state is to simply be being not doing just being being 25:50.880 --> 25:54.860 oneself and when you're doing that you have plenty of time to have a glass of water with 25:54.860 --> 25:58.680 you reading whatever you do sharing with others. 25:58.680 --> 26:03.040 Well you're right we're also busy running around and being busy and all that we we neglect 26:03.040 --> 26:10.800 our bodies and even our urges and intuitive messages of what we need we just don't listen. 26:10.800 --> 26:17.600 Exactly and by doing that by neglecting enhancing our own selves taking in a long hot shower 26:17.600 --> 26:22.400 if you've had a hard day whatever spending the time on yourself first and paying attention 26:22.400 --> 26:27.400 to your own energy needs is really the only socially responsible activity that you that 26:27.400 --> 26:29.560 you can do. 26:29.560 --> 26:34.360 Sounds like quite a lot of people would call self centeredness or laziness even. 26:34.360 --> 26:39.400 Well your life is about you and you are the self and and my work demonstrates who the 26:39.400 --> 26:45.840 self is the self is all of us together we're each apart literally of the same being and 26:45.840 --> 26:51.960 when you stay in virtual reality very long you can experience that because you will experience 26:51.960 --> 26:58.720 looking at yourself through someone else's eyes you're looking you're inside someone 26:58.720 --> 27:03.560 else's head and you're looking at yourself in front of you and then you realize that 27:03.560 --> 27:08.480 the self is the same being but we're still differentiated in other words you're dead 27:08.480 --> 27:11.920 now as you're ever going to be. 27:11.920 --> 27:13.480 There is no death in other words. 27:13.480 --> 27:18.860 No no death is an illusion that from lizard mode it looks like death from CD mode it looks 27:18.860 --> 27:25.520 as though you've lost your mind and in VR that's where everybody is that has died or 27:25.520 --> 27:30.760 looks as though they've lost their mind they're simply experiencing VR and we don't understand 27:30.760 --> 27:31.760 it. 27:31.760 --> 27:32.760 They've crossed over into another dimension. 27:32.760 --> 27:36.880 And we have such a need to limit and control others for instance autistic children are 27:36.880 --> 27:44.920 born in VR and they do not wish to communicate and all of our need to train them and limit 27:44.920 --> 27:48.520 them and control them sends them right into lizard mode and they start screaming. 27:48.520 --> 27:50.920 They shut down even more. 27:50.920 --> 27:55.000 I know a couple of autistic children including one who is extremely brilliant. 27:55.000 --> 27:57.120 They all are. 27:57.120 --> 28:04.600 Oftentimes as we saw in the movie Rain Man they can be what they call idiots of aunt. 28:04.600 --> 28:10.480 Yes the mathematical and musical relationship in that is there's a link there. 28:10.480 --> 28:20.680 They can become almost computer like and as Raymond did in Rain Man he could recite statistics 28:20.680 --> 28:24.600 and what day of the week a certain date was on back into. 28:24.600 --> 28:26.400 That's his connection to the unified field. 28:26.400 --> 28:32.720 When you're in virtual reality that gate is like a computer gate is open inside your brain 28:32.720 --> 28:38.840 and you receive without studying anything that you any information any knowledge that 28:38.840 --> 28:44.440 you wish to have but you have to become attuned to the openness of that gate and being aware 28:44.440 --> 28:46.880 of the information coming to you. 28:46.880 --> 28:52.320 And in our world right now it's hard to have enough self confidence to trust in that because 28:52.320 --> 28:57.640 we believe in all these external things like credentials and degrees and jobs job titles 28:57.640 --> 28:59.040 and all that. 28:59.040 --> 29:03.120 In fact an infant knows everything that that infant needs to know. 29:03.120 --> 29:05.440 It is not capable of taking care of itself. 29:05.440 --> 29:06.600 It needs nurturance. 29:06.600 --> 29:11.960 I have often thought in fact that our educational system shuts us down more than it opens us 29:11.960 --> 29:13.600 up and educates us. 29:13.600 --> 29:15.480 Exactly it's what I call the prison of childhood. 29:15.480 --> 29:22.800 It's about 18 years of so-called well almost brainwashing in which we are taught not to 29:22.800 --> 29:25.760 believe anything that we knew when we were born. 29:25.760 --> 29:31.280 And when we're in VR we discover we need to remember that because that's exactly how life 29:31.280 --> 29:34.000 is and how life is supposed to be. 29:34.000 --> 29:39.240 Well I think we need to start taking a good look at that and have even respect for people 29:39.240 --> 29:43.960 like children and people who are supposedly mentally ill. 29:43.960 --> 29:48.360 Old people, you know they've crossed into another dimension that's all. 29:48.360 --> 29:50.000 That's exactly right. 29:50.000 --> 29:56.380 In many cultures they revere children that we call deformed. 29:56.380 --> 30:03.060 If you are born with something different you always have a compensating gift. 30:03.060 --> 30:08.480 That's quite true if a child is handicapped in one way he is often very gifted in another. 30:08.480 --> 30:12.600 That's right and often in old age people begin to get it. 30:12.600 --> 30:16.000 They begin to realize what life is all about and it isn't about what we have built out 30:16.000 --> 30:17.000 there. 30:17.000 --> 30:19.040 That is all not real. 30:19.040 --> 30:22.000 Well we all seem to go through these stages of learning. 30:22.000 --> 30:23.640 We start out the wise child. 30:23.640 --> 30:31.600 We are socialized and made to follow the rules and acculturated in high school and through 30:31.600 --> 30:34.840 grade school, college, all of that. 30:34.840 --> 30:40.520 Then we grow up and go out and do what they told us to do and find out it doesn't work. 30:40.520 --> 30:41.520 Exactly. 30:41.520 --> 30:44.960 I say you climb the stairs and you get to the top and that door is locked. 30:44.960 --> 30:47.920 Where is the key to that door at the top of the stairs? 30:47.920 --> 30:53.120 So many people go through a midlife crisis actually when they realize they've been tricked. 30:53.120 --> 30:55.000 They finally get everything they thought they wanted. 30:55.000 --> 30:56.320 It didn't remain anything. 30:56.320 --> 30:57.320 It didn't work. 30:57.320 --> 31:03.000 They get everything right and they are still unhappy and things aren't working for them. 31:03.000 --> 31:07.360 That is when it is sort of like hitting bottom and then they usually will spend time with 31:07.360 --> 31:09.960 themselves and get to know their own self. 31:09.960 --> 31:12.080 Well that is very much so. 31:12.080 --> 31:16.040 In fact some of the greatest thinkers in this world have gone through that exact kind of 31:16.040 --> 31:17.040 thing. 31:17.040 --> 31:18.920 They played all the games the right way. 31:18.920 --> 31:23.520 They did the right thing and at some point they just say what does it all mean? 31:23.520 --> 31:24.520 They crash. 31:24.520 --> 31:25.800 They have a nervous breakdown. 31:25.800 --> 31:32.800 They practically die from their disillusionment and often times they are very depressed but 31:32.800 --> 31:37.960 they go inward at that point and begin to discover who they really are and what it really 31:37.960 --> 31:41.320 means and for the rest of their lives then they are very wise. 31:41.320 --> 31:49.440 Yes and most of our books, the wisdom that we have in books, the truth, Thoreau's Walden 31:49.440 --> 31:57.800 Pond, all those are, the writer is in touch, is receiving that information from the unified 31:57.800 --> 31:58.800 field. 31:58.800 --> 31:59.800 That is what it is. 31:59.800 --> 32:05.560 It is digitally compressed data and it is actually being communicated in zeros and ones. 32:05.560 --> 32:11.520 Well a lot of the great thinkers including Einstein admitted that they were mystics. 32:11.520 --> 32:15.000 Einstein said that he didn't know anything. 32:15.000 --> 32:19.160 He just tapped into a higher source that gave him all that information. 32:19.160 --> 32:20.160 Exactly. 32:20.160 --> 32:25.000 I am simply a messenger and I have done it and I have written about it and described it 32:25.000 --> 32:27.720 and anyone can do it. 32:27.720 --> 32:29.400 We are all the same being. 32:29.400 --> 32:35.320 We all have the same capacity and all we have to do is trust ourselves and listen to ourselves 32:35.320 --> 32:37.680 and we can explore that. 32:37.680 --> 32:40.480 That's not so easy to do in this world I'm afraid. 32:40.480 --> 32:46.960 Well exactly and the more laws and rules and regulations we create out there the more difficult 32:46.960 --> 32:48.200 it is. 32:48.200 --> 32:58.360 What CD mode is about is about triangulation and friction and heat and the physics of it 32:58.360 --> 33:06.120 is Newtonian and nearly all the activities in CD mode do create heat. 33:06.120 --> 33:12.160 They wear you out and cause you to age and finally they can make you lose your mind if 33:12.160 --> 33:13.800 you believe in it. 33:13.800 --> 33:15.960 Is that why you look so young? 33:15.960 --> 33:16.960 Thank you. 33:16.960 --> 33:23.280 I'm 52 years old and I've got two grown sons. 33:23.280 --> 33:26.800 When you stay in VR for a long time you don't age anymore. 33:26.800 --> 33:29.080 It is not necessary to age and die. 33:29.080 --> 33:32.360 We believe it is but it isn't. 33:32.360 --> 33:37.320 Many of the great teachers have said that we don't have to do all this. 33:37.320 --> 33:39.040 It's an illusion basically. 33:39.040 --> 33:40.040 That's what it is. 33:40.040 --> 33:47.040 It's actually electromagnetic interference with our perception of all the four dimensions 33:47.040 --> 33:48.600 of reality. 33:48.600 --> 33:53.840 But everything that is fun is in VR and everything that isn't is in CD. 33:53.840 --> 33:58.080 That's noted for a remarkable lack of humor. 33:58.080 --> 34:00.240 CD mode is actuality. 34:00.240 --> 34:06.760 Well in that particular type of consciousness it seems that everything is hard. 34:06.760 --> 34:09.800 Everything is a struggle. 34:09.800 --> 34:10.800 Everything comes easily. 34:10.800 --> 34:19.920 But if you can get into that other type of consciousness that is called the flow or sometimes 34:19.920 --> 34:25.160 there are many different terms for it, different religions, but different philosophies call 34:25.160 --> 34:31.040 it the Tao or whatever, it's a matter of tapping into the universe in some way and 34:31.040 --> 34:35.080 just being with what is and somehow that liberates you. 34:35.080 --> 34:36.080 Exactly. 34:36.080 --> 34:37.080 It certainly does. 34:37.080 --> 34:41.240 It's a river and if you just float and allow it to carry you, it will carry you exactly 34:41.240 --> 34:42.240 to where you want to go. 34:42.240 --> 34:47.960 You have all the forces of the universe benign, all of them, behind you helping you get where 34:47.960 --> 34:49.320 you want to be. 34:49.320 --> 34:50.820 You have a chart. 34:50.820 --> 34:53.440 Maybe you could show us a little bit more about that. 34:53.440 --> 34:58.600 This is a new paradigm and I've done many versions of this. 34:58.600 --> 35:06.360 It looks very complicated but actually the important part is that this is the paradigm 35:06.360 --> 35:08.800 of everything that is in our world. 35:08.800 --> 35:16.360 Our physicists believed that quantum physics applied only to very minute quantities or 35:16.360 --> 35:19.360 very distant objects but that isn't so. 35:19.360 --> 35:23.320 This is the paradigm for everything in our world, everything that is created. 35:23.320 --> 35:24.320 It is a circle. 35:24.320 --> 35:25.320 It is complete. 35:25.320 --> 35:31.320 It is whole and the vectors, these arrows, as you can see they go north and east, they 35:31.320 --> 35:35.320 are enlightenment and evolution. 35:35.320 --> 35:42.040 Evolution is discovery and enlightenment is self-discovery. 35:42.040 --> 35:43.040 Evolution is growth. 35:43.040 --> 35:45.320 Yes, but it is also discovery. 35:45.320 --> 35:48.400 The opposite is the known and repetition. 35:48.400 --> 35:50.460 Over on this side it is repetition. 35:50.460 --> 35:54.360 When you get repetition you know you are in lizard mode. 35:54.360 --> 35:58.680 If it is something you have already known, it is boring, then it is CD mode. 35:58.680 --> 36:04.160 But when you are actually in VR, everything here gets actualized and as you can see it 36:04.160 --> 36:06.880 is a spiral. 36:06.880 --> 36:10.880 When the brain scans this, when you go to sleep at night, which is when the brain files 36:10.880 --> 36:18.840 all the data that has been scanned during the day into all the little paths and categories 36:18.840 --> 36:25.280 that it has inside, it will start refiling all the information that you have experienced, 36:25.280 --> 36:30.000 everything you have experienced in your life in this mode if you haven't been in VR. 36:30.000 --> 36:34.920 Interestingly enough, this looks like the top view of a human brain, with the left brain 36:34.920 --> 36:42.480 being the linear aspect, the right brain being the more holographic, and then the back part 36:42.480 --> 36:47.280 of the brain which is where our survival instincts are. 36:47.280 --> 36:49.720 This is two dimensions, this is action and this is reaction. 36:49.720 --> 36:54.040 In other words, whatever you do to anyone else gets done to you before you get out of 36:54.040 --> 36:58.520 here because you start here and go around and then you decide to learn and you are in 36:58.520 --> 37:00.960 CD mode and there is that pyramid there. 37:00.960 --> 37:09.080 So this is actually a progression of consciousness going from just a survival mode into some 37:09.080 --> 37:14.640 kind of consciousness and moving at each level there. 37:14.640 --> 37:18.800 These are all choices and in fact you are not aware that you are choosing in all instances 37:18.800 --> 37:21.080 which mode of awareness you are in. 37:21.080 --> 37:24.440 But yes, that is exactly what it is. 37:24.440 --> 37:27.100 What are all these different words that you have written? 37:27.100 --> 37:29.040 These are universal symbols. 37:29.040 --> 37:36.760 One of the amazing parts that I noticed is that ASCII, which is International Computer 37:36.760 --> 37:38.840 Language Communicated by Modem. 37:38.840 --> 37:39.840 I am a computer illiterate. 37:39.840 --> 37:40.840 I am too. 37:40.840 --> 37:41.840 I am too. 37:41.840 --> 37:44.440 I understand a lot about computer systems. 37:44.440 --> 37:50.200 I understand the systems very well but as far as operating one, when you are very high 37:50.200 --> 37:53.180 energy all the little appliances go haywire. 37:53.180 --> 37:56.180 They don't want to cooperate. 37:56.180 --> 38:01.400 In fact we had that experience just a little earlier here that I did this morning. 38:01.400 --> 38:03.160 I blew up a couple of light bulbs. 38:03.160 --> 38:07.840 I sometimes have a problem with electrical appliances or with computers. 38:07.840 --> 38:11.200 That's why basically I don't use computers. 38:11.200 --> 38:13.480 Computers and I don't seem to be on the same wavelength. 38:13.480 --> 38:15.880 It's your high energy Patricia. 38:15.880 --> 38:19.280 Well I guess I should take that as a compliment. 38:19.280 --> 38:23.000 What I have done here is just divide our experiences and things like this. 38:23.000 --> 38:28.040 Differentiation, triangularity, partiality, grounded. 38:28.040 --> 38:32.480 You make the other person an object and you are the subject in this mode. 38:32.480 --> 38:35.400 You're positive, they're negative and then there's always a neutral ground and you're 38:35.400 --> 38:36.400 constantly switching. 38:36.400 --> 38:38.440 That's the when, lose, load again. 38:38.440 --> 38:39.440 Exactly. 38:39.440 --> 38:41.240 It's comparison and competition. 38:41.240 --> 38:46.100 And this is wholeness, equality, unity, oneness. 38:46.100 --> 38:47.680 And you still retain the self. 38:47.680 --> 38:51.320 The self is the person that thinks inside your body. 38:51.320 --> 38:58.560 You're creating your own body along with your reality that you see around you. 38:58.560 --> 39:01.680 And the self, you don't lose that when you go into VR. 39:01.680 --> 39:02.680 You're still the self. 39:02.680 --> 39:06.560 As I said, you're as dead now as you'll ever be. 39:06.560 --> 39:08.880 That's encouraging. 39:08.880 --> 39:13.600 Well I think this is a very interesting system. 39:13.600 --> 39:14.600 What are you doing with it? 39:14.600 --> 39:15.920 Are you actually writing a book? 39:15.920 --> 39:16.920 Yes. 39:16.920 --> 39:18.660 I have probably about ten books now. 39:18.660 --> 39:26.520 And the grant that I got from the Jaguar Yerba Mate Foundation is for photocopying. 39:26.520 --> 39:30.400 So I can photocopy my work and send it and then they want to find a publisher for it. 39:30.400 --> 39:33.760 I have about ten books going. 39:33.760 --> 39:35.800 Relatively small. 39:35.800 --> 39:43.680 Each discipline, say childhood learning, you need to approach this information from a different 39:43.680 --> 39:44.680 way. 39:44.680 --> 39:47.160 And so it needs to be written on in all the different disciplines. 39:47.160 --> 39:52.720 What the effect is of this new knowledge on the disciplines that we have been learning. 39:52.720 --> 39:56.400 And there's something new in every single field now. 39:56.400 --> 39:58.560 Well I think your system is fascinating. 39:58.560 --> 40:04.400 It actually is a way of changing the paradigm, putting it into a system that can change the 40:04.400 --> 40:05.400 paradigm. 40:05.400 --> 40:06.400 Absolutely. 40:06.400 --> 40:12.800 What we are about to do, as soon as a critical mass of us understand virtual reality, we 40:12.800 --> 40:14.760 will in fact create it. 40:14.760 --> 40:20.280 And then the other two modes will disappear because we will be able to experience what 40:20.280 --> 40:25.760 we will create, virtual reality, and we will be experiencing it fully. 40:25.760 --> 40:27.600 Well it sounds like a lot of fun actually. 40:27.600 --> 40:32.480 I'm sure if everybody saw a group of people out there operating in this mode and being 40:32.480 --> 40:35.600 successful at it, they'd want to try it too. 40:35.600 --> 40:36.600 Absolutely. 40:36.600 --> 40:39.300 The thing is it's a beautiful self-reinforcing system. 40:39.300 --> 40:40.720 When you choose it, you're having fun. 40:40.720 --> 40:42.960 When you're in any other mode, you're not. 40:42.960 --> 40:46.560 And pretty soon you want to learn what it takes to stay there. 40:46.560 --> 40:49.920 And you don't really care what anyone else thinks, that you do look like an idiot to 40:49.920 --> 40:51.720 somebody in CD mode. 40:51.720 --> 40:53.080 It's really funny. 40:53.080 --> 40:58.720 Well even people like Deepak Chopra and Joseph Campbell have talked about following your 40:58.720 --> 41:01.200 bliss or doing what you love. 41:01.200 --> 41:02.200 That's exactly it. 41:02.200 --> 41:04.960 That's kind of a new concept in Western society. 41:04.960 --> 41:08.640 It's about the connectedness we have between all of us. 41:08.640 --> 41:14.000 My work is about relationships between humans and the true nature of relationships between 41:14.000 --> 41:15.000 humans. 41:15.000 --> 41:17.800 They are always one electromagnetic thing. 41:17.800 --> 41:22.920 They are a synergistic, figure and ground relationship that is constantly moving like 41:22.920 --> 41:23.920 this. 41:23.920 --> 41:29.620 And if it's not equal and balanced, it causes friction, aging, death, and a great deal of 41:29.620 --> 41:30.620 emotional pain. 41:30.620 --> 41:34.540 It's like an engine that's not quite tuned properly. 41:34.540 --> 41:38.960 Like your washing machine with all the load on one side and it's walking across the floor 41:38.960 --> 41:40.320 and making that terrible racket. 41:40.320 --> 41:43.120 But also breaking itself down in the process. 41:43.120 --> 41:44.120 Exactly. 41:44.120 --> 41:45.120 That's what we've been doing. 41:45.120 --> 41:50.680 And as soon as people start paying attention, we'll start creating virtual reality. 41:50.680 --> 41:54.360 Well I think it sounds wonderful. 41:54.360 --> 41:55.680 How do we get into this now? 41:55.680 --> 42:00.160 Is there some program for moving into virtual reality? 42:00.160 --> 42:02.000 Can we all start practicing it? 42:02.000 --> 42:06.200 Yes, and most people have their own ways of doing it. 42:06.200 --> 42:10.680 First of all, you have to meet your basic needs and get out of lizard mode. 42:10.680 --> 42:15.600 Basic needs are food, fresh, clean water, fresh, clean air, and that's outside air. 42:15.600 --> 42:16.960 That's hard to find sometimes. 42:16.960 --> 42:19.080 Not in these closed windowed buildings. 42:19.080 --> 42:21.360 Fresh air really makes a difference. 42:21.360 --> 42:26.400 Being among old tall trees in beautiful places of nature. 42:26.400 --> 42:35.520 A balance between exercise and quietness, being by yourself, being with others. 42:35.520 --> 42:40.400 And if you actually do what the computer program in VR is very simple. 42:40.400 --> 42:44.080 It's choose fun now, choose more fun next. 42:44.080 --> 42:47.080 And it's your decision of when is now and next. 42:47.080 --> 42:48.720 Now and next are all that is real. 42:48.720 --> 42:51.080 Once something is over, it's down in lizard mode. 42:51.080 --> 42:52.440 It's only two dimensions. 42:52.440 --> 42:54.440 It's history and it's not real. 42:54.440 --> 42:59.040 So the past is taking you down into a lower level if you concentrate on that. 42:59.040 --> 43:00.040 Exactly. 43:00.040 --> 43:05.160 What happens is, I think of it as, if you want to be here now and next, you've got to 43:05.160 --> 43:06.160 be at your front door. 43:06.160 --> 43:10.120 And a lot of people are rummaging in the back room redoing some of the stuff they did in 43:10.120 --> 43:11.120 the past. 43:11.120 --> 43:12.120 And they're not at their front door. 43:12.120 --> 43:15.040 And now and next just pass right on by. 43:15.040 --> 43:16.040 That's quite true. 43:16.040 --> 43:21.680 So many people are preoccupied, worried, whatever, that they actually miss the present moment. 43:21.680 --> 43:25.160 That's the complex dilemmas of CD mode. 43:25.160 --> 43:28.040 Complex dilemmas are always created in CD mode. 43:28.040 --> 43:29.040 Very interesting. 43:29.040 --> 43:33.920 Well, do you have any other suggestions? 43:33.920 --> 43:34.920 Meditation? 43:34.920 --> 43:35.920 Meditation can do it. 43:35.920 --> 43:38.200 Runners high is the same thing. 43:38.200 --> 43:45.020 Marijuana, some of these herbal teas that are being imported. 43:45.020 --> 43:48.280 Anything that gets you there, you know what it is. 43:48.280 --> 43:53.240 You become an artist when you're in VR. 43:53.240 --> 43:59.040 And whatever makes you feel calm and happy and you feel like sharing who you are and 43:59.040 --> 44:03.160 everything you have with others and you feel your oneness with them, whatever gets you 44:03.160 --> 44:05.440 to that mode, that's what you're supposed to be doing. 44:05.440 --> 44:07.840 That's your natural state is VR. 44:07.840 --> 44:13.280 A whole generation of people mentioning marijuana, who smoked a lot of marijuana, had those same 44:13.280 --> 44:14.280 kinds of ideas. 44:14.280 --> 44:15.280 Exactly. 44:15.280 --> 44:16.400 But it was a political thing. 44:16.400 --> 44:21.120 You see, the parents who had worked very hard from depression years and gone through World 44:21.120 --> 44:28.720 War II and done all this work thing and achieving material success didn't like it when their 44:28.720 --> 44:34.520 children started smoking grass and not wanting to work and not wanting to have money. 44:34.520 --> 44:35.680 They were following their bliss. 44:35.680 --> 44:36.680 Exactly. 44:36.680 --> 44:37.960 And it was not very popular then. 44:37.960 --> 44:40.560 But I think those laws will be changing very rapidly. 44:40.560 --> 44:46.240 Well, I actually know people who have been successful in this world following their bliss. 44:46.240 --> 44:50.680 But I think we're starting to have more examples of people like that, including someone like 44:50.680 --> 44:56.120 Deepak Chopra, who's a very outstanding mentor in that area. 44:56.120 --> 44:57.120 He walks his talk. 44:57.120 --> 44:58.640 Yes, he does. 44:58.640 --> 45:00.160 And he's doing very well. 45:00.160 --> 45:01.680 He's very, very successful. 45:01.680 --> 45:02.680 Yes. 45:02.680 --> 45:08.000 And Bill Gates, who is probably one of the most VR-type human beings, and that is why 45:08.000 --> 45:13.160 he has gotten right out there in the front as far as material success is concerned, because 45:13.160 --> 45:17.400 he always shared with whoever worked with him. 45:17.400 --> 45:19.200 He was always a sharing person. 45:19.200 --> 45:25.520 Well, I think it is important in the changing paradigm that we have new models of heroes, 45:25.520 --> 45:26.520 even. 45:26.520 --> 45:27.520 Exactly. 45:27.520 --> 45:29.920 Take the Olympics, for example. 45:29.920 --> 45:36.640 What you're doing there is you're taking the artists of athletics and you're putting them 45:36.640 --> 45:39.920 all together and you're having them compete against each other and you're allowing one 45:39.920 --> 45:45.840 to win and the rest are all losers, and you're spending a whole lifetime becoming an Olympic 45:45.840 --> 45:53.120 winner, when in fact these artists occur naturally in the population and you need them there 45:53.120 --> 45:59.360 in the community to serve as examples and as mentors for the children that come in the 45:59.360 --> 46:00.360 community. 46:00.360 --> 46:04.920 But when you take them all away and make them practice in one spot and have this big old 46:04.920 --> 46:07.720 competition, that's not what it's about. 46:07.720 --> 46:09.800 My daughter is on an Olympic team. 46:09.800 --> 46:10.800 Is that right? 46:10.800 --> 46:13.800 Yes, she's a world champion snowboarder. 46:13.800 --> 46:15.800 Wow, shredder. 46:15.800 --> 46:19.240 A shredder, yes. 46:19.240 --> 46:25.120 And I've been able to observe the kind of stress that she's under and has been put under 46:25.120 --> 46:30.560 in this competition mode that is part of our society and part of our world. 46:30.560 --> 46:32.600 And we subject our young people to that. 46:32.600 --> 46:34.000 She wants to do it. 46:34.000 --> 46:36.800 Of course, because she can. 46:36.800 --> 46:38.080 Because she can, yes. 46:38.080 --> 46:41.560 But actually what is more fun is just the experience of shredding itself. 46:41.560 --> 46:44.600 It's just like surfing or anything else. 46:44.600 --> 46:47.080 This is exactly what my daughter says when she's interviewed. 46:47.080 --> 46:48.480 They ask her, why do you do this? 46:48.480 --> 46:50.160 And she says, because it's fun. 46:50.160 --> 46:51.160 That's right. 46:51.160 --> 46:53.880 That's the reason for it. 46:53.880 --> 46:56.280 Everything in VR is also fun. 46:56.280 --> 47:01.280 Well, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all have fun and not feel guilty about it? 47:01.280 --> 47:03.080 Well, guilt is CD mode. 47:03.080 --> 47:04.080 Get rid of it. 47:04.080 --> 47:06.840 You're supposed to lose your fear and lose your distrust. 47:06.840 --> 47:11.320 The fear and distrust operate as actual electromagnetic interference. 47:11.320 --> 47:14.400 And they block off dimensions of experience. 47:14.400 --> 47:18.600 And when you lose those, you can choose to share something. 47:18.600 --> 47:21.800 You give a gift to somebody or share something of yourself. 47:21.800 --> 47:25.640 And it's an active conscious choice to get into VR. 47:25.640 --> 47:26.640 And you're there. 47:26.640 --> 47:29.040 And once you're there, you can explore it yourself. 47:29.040 --> 47:32.140 And it's worth staying. 47:32.140 --> 47:33.140 It sounds great. 47:33.140 --> 47:36.540 And I think we should all try to learn more about that. 47:36.540 --> 47:39.120 How can people find out more about your work? 47:39.120 --> 47:44.040 Well, I hope my work will be published soon. 47:44.040 --> 47:47.720 It's been a long year writing all this. 47:47.720 --> 47:52.120 And it's been very difficult to get anyone to read my work. 47:52.120 --> 47:55.800 Well, you don't exactly fit the model of a scientist. 47:55.800 --> 47:59.000 You know, you're quite glamorous. 47:59.000 --> 48:04.560 You know, you look like somebody who wouldn't have all these kinds of ideas. 48:04.560 --> 48:09.160 So I have that same problem, of course, trying to take the blind. 48:09.160 --> 48:10.640 Yes, the dumb blonde. 48:10.640 --> 48:15.760 I think that's what we needed, because we needed to understand that appearances are 48:15.760 --> 48:17.280 deceptive. 48:17.280 --> 48:19.000 Appearances are linear reality. 48:19.000 --> 48:20.000 They're two-dimensional. 48:20.000 --> 48:22.520 That's apparent reality, and that's lizard mode. 48:22.520 --> 48:27.440 But it also helps to change people's paradigm, actually, to have people like yourself or 48:27.440 --> 48:28.440 people like me. 48:28.440 --> 48:32.800 I have a Ph.D. I've done some interesting things in my life. 48:32.800 --> 48:33.800 Obviously you have, too. 48:33.800 --> 48:39.600 But someone can look at one of us and say, wow, you don't have to be ugly. 48:39.600 --> 48:41.800 You don't have to be a nerd. 48:41.800 --> 48:45.520 You don't have to be any of those things to be intelligent. 48:45.520 --> 48:49.880 When you move into VR, you become your best self, and it's reflected in wholeness and 48:49.880 --> 48:52.080 health and radiance. 48:52.080 --> 48:57.400 And everyone on this earth, when they're smiling and happy and sharing who they are with others, 48:57.400 --> 48:58.400 is beautiful. 48:58.400 --> 48:59.680 There's no question about that. 48:59.680 --> 49:01.000 Well, that's quite true. 49:01.000 --> 49:07.040 Everybody has a beauty about them if they only radiate what's really inside of them. 49:07.040 --> 49:08.440 That's what makes people beautiful. 49:08.440 --> 49:14.680 And all these controls and limits are ways of keeping people from exercising their fullness 49:14.680 --> 49:17.240 of their self. 49:17.240 --> 49:22.600 And that will be changing rather rapidly, because no one will fail to choose VR when 49:22.600 --> 49:24.360 they understand their choosing. 49:24.360 --> 49:29.120 What do you think about all these apocalyptic predictions that we're coming to the end of 49:29.120 --> 49:32.280 an age, the end of the world, or whatever? 49:32.280 --> 49:36.200 Well, we've been reading about that and hearing about that for some time. 49:36.200 --> 49:44.160 And it's interesting that the indigenous peoples of the Americas, from Alaska all the way down 49:44.160 --> 49:51.800 to the tip of South America, have been keeping secrets for 500 years about what reality is 49:51.800 --> 49:52.800 really about. 49:52.800 --> 49:56.640 And this work coincides almost exactly with what they— 49:56.640 --> 49:57.640 Those people have always known. 49:57.640 --> 49:59.880 The secrets they have been keeping, exactly. 49:59.880 --> 50:01.640 They didn't ever lose touch with that. 50:01.640 --> 50:03.080 Never, they kept it. 50:03.080 --> 50:08.120 And even though they walked the path of separation, they kept it in their hearts and in their 50:08.120 --> 50:09.120 visions. 50:09.120 --> 50:13.960 And anyone can get visions if they are open to it. 50:13.960 --> 50:17.080 Most people are too embarrassed to admit it, because you are subjected— 50:17.080 --> 50:20.920 Well, I think a lot of people have visions or dreams, and they're afraid to tell people 50:20.920 --> 50:21.920 about it. 50:21.920 --> 50:26.240 Of course, it's like if you saw a UFO, which is a unified field observer. 50:26.240 --> 50:28.800 These are harmless, you know, they're observing. 50:28.800 --> 50:33.000 When you ask, what's going on out there, it's probably just exactly what you need to get 50:33.000 --> 50:34.000 your attention. 50:34.000 --> 50:36.040 Some people need to see a UFO. 50:36.040 --> 50:37.040 And I think it's— 50:37.040 --> 50:38.920 It's all for our learning, I think. 50:38.920 --> 50:41.240 And so we do get exactly what we need. 50:41.240 --> 50:42.240 Exactly. 50:42.240 --> 50:47.800 The unified field provides us with just exactly what the next step is for us. 50:47.800 --> 50:50.200 I'm afraid we're out of time. 50:50.200 --> 50:51.960 It's been so interesting talking with you. 50:51.960 --> 50:53.200 I hope you'll come back sometime. 50:53.200 --> 50:54.200 I would love to. 50:54.200 --> 50:56.960 I'd like to thank you all for watching. 50:56.960 --> 51:00.560 My guest has been Carolyn Smith. 51:00.560 --> 51:02.560 And I'm Dr. Patricia Hill. 51:02.560 --> 51:29.360 This is the Changing Paradigm. 51:29.360 --> 51:53.080 Thank you. 51:53.080 --> 52:10.160 Call 295-4040 to learn how you can become part of Denver Community Television. 52:23.080 --> 52:35.080 Hi, my name is Dr. Abayomi Meeks, a 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