1 00:00:09,93 --> 00:00:13,61 Hello my name is Denise Hurley and this is harmonies 2 00:00:13,67 --> 00:00:17,16 a conversation with the Raptors this is 3 00:00:17,17 --> 00:00:23,74 a show about conversations in music with musicians that are in the local saying it 4 00:00:23,75 --> 00:00:30,52 is my pleasure to welcome Dave it's Givens and Mickey Byron picks given to our 5 00:00:30,53 --> 00:00:33,05 show they're ready to play 6 00:00:33,06 --> 00:00:39,22 a couple songs for us and then once we do that they will dive into finding out more 7 00:00:39,23 --> 00:00:45,01 about who they are so welcome and looking forward to listening to your music. 8 00:01:13,36 --> 00:01:18,25 Cause. Strain. 9 00:01:25,56 --> 00:01:26,06 Is married. 10 00:01:34,74 --> 00:01:40,59 On previous. Side. And there was 11 00:01:40,79 --> 00:01:47,32 a. Stop. Payment for sure but they want 12 00:01:47,86 --> 00:01:52,25 to take that job. In the. 13 00:02:09,73 --> 00:02:16,68 First season I obtained these. Numbers. Said 14 00:02:16,95 --> 00:02:23,77 comes. On home work you have all and then she. 15 00:02:24,84 --> 00:02:25,81 Called to. 16 00:02:40,73 --> 00:02:45,46 Wish I could. See. Just to live. 17 00:03:06,74 --> 00:03:11,68 Sound. Not fun piece joint. 18 00:03:15,88 --> 00:03:21,17 Task. Force week passes. 19 00:03:24,95 --> 00:03:25,62 Me then. 20 00:03:50,30 --> 00:03:51,24 Thank you. 21 00:04:08,25 --> 00:04:14,92 Get out of this. Some 22 00:04:15,27 --> 00:04:17,35 new worlds too and to. 23 00:04:29,19 --> 00:04:30,23 Some lovers. 24 00:04:40,30 --> 00:04:46,21 She started with that she started to cry. The suits go. 25 00:04:49,53 --> 00:04:56,43 Gone. To. The stick came 26 00:04:56,44 --> 00:05:02,82 with sticky. For. All the 27 00:05:03,76 --> 00:05:10,72 time but. Closing time in 28 00:05:10,73 --> 00:05:16,64 the late. Dancing. 29 00:05:26,82 --> 00:05:32,70 Started to start to. Go. 30 00:05:35,89 --> 00:05:36,22 God. 31 00:05:55,91 --> 00:05:57,24 Give me one moment in. 32 00:06:19,40 --> 00:06:25,23 Life that would start to cry. So long to find. 33 00:06:26,56 --> 00:06:30,42 Some to come. See. 34 00:06:34,73 --> 00:06:40,30 God. Suppose I. 35 00:06:41,81 --> 00:06:46,16 Come back suppose dot com by. 36 00:06:50,24 --> 00:06:50,49 So. 37 00:07:04,12 --> 00:07:11,03 I was great thank you guys so very much thank you love that. Very 38 00:07:11,19 --> 00:07:14,50 well you guys have been friends of ours for 39 00:07:14,51 --> 00:07:18,33 a very very long time and I have to say I'm 40 00:07:18,34 --> 00:07:22,90 a fan pure and simple I always have always remember the first show we did with you 41 00:07:22,91 --> 00:07:29,50 guys the first. Test Oh because it was the laws 42 00:07:29,89 --> 00:07:35,74 that brave. Americans of the Americans you know I remember that oh my God now I do 43 00:07:35,80 --> 00:07:39,12 yeah yeah very first time Chile was only 44 00:07:39,13 --> 00:07:45,77 a baby that's right that's right. OK Well 45 00:07:45,98 --> 00:07:47,95 OK so why don't you tell me 46 00:07:47,96 --> 00:07:54,96 a little bit about yourselves. You know the history of the rat just start just let 47 00:07:55,35 --> 00:08:02,06 let us know who you are. Well I'm Dave I'm with you and together we're married 48 00:08:02,07 --> 00:08:05,37 where the rafters We've been together as 49 00:08:05,38 --> 00:08:11,96 a couple for twenty years and we turn it into year. And Dave's been in 50 00:08:11,97 --> 00:08:17,25 bands for ever it seems I've always played the guitar but never. 51 00:08:18,63 --> 00:08:25,52 Played shows outward until about seven years ago when we. First story. You know we 52 00:08:26,14 --> 00:08:29,40 played in bands and Mickey started playing with 53 00:08:29,80 --> 00:08:35,53 a couple of friends and the friends wanted to play 54 00:08:35,54 --> 00:08:37,04 a lot more than we could commit with 55 00:08:37,05 --> 00:08:41,89 a family right so we ended up playing together and we've been playing for 56 00:08:41,90 --> 00:08:44,92 a spot seven years Wow So it's a long time now 57 00:08:45,23 --> 00:08:49,66 a real long time. So when you tell us 58 00:08:49,67 --> 00:08:53,89 a little bit what's going on what's in the works what kind of projects are gone on 59 00:08:54,39 --> 00:08:58,17 this you know so we just recently released 60 00:08:58,18 --> 00:09:04,12 a live CD OK and that was at the watch you said music festival yet you guys run. 61 00:09:05,16 --> 00:09:07,91 We recorded that back in two thousand and thirteen it took 62 00:09:07,92 --> 00:09:14,08 a while to get the production done and the editing of the C.D.'s but we really sat 63 00:09:14,09 --> 00:09:16,79 last fall and that we've gotten 64 00:09:16,80 --> 00:09:23,20 a lot of good response for that one really. Was purely live no overdubs no 65 00:09:24,12 --> 00:09:27,79 no fixes so it is what it is it was fun for you wasn't it that was 66 00:09:27,80 --> 00:09:34,61 a great show I think it was good to capture that. And I think you guys great job of 67 00:09:34,62 --> 00:09:40,62 doing that see the I enjoyed it very much as something with Amy Ray was and of 68 00:09:40,63 --> 00:09:40,92 course 69 00:09:40,93 --> 00:09:46,29 a lot of the show is aiming arraigning make you know your big you go girl fence 70 00:09:46,33 --> 00:09:53,27 right how many times have you yeah maybe eighty three. I miss the men in 71 00:09:53,28 --> 00:09:59,85 Providence So how did you. Slow down with the three kids right we spend probably 72 00:09:59,86 --> 00:10:02,25 seven times OK so she's 73 00:10:02,26 --> 00:10:07,21 a fan of the as well. About telly they're all fans they're also. 74 00:10:12,02 --> 00:10:17,34 OK Want to tell me about the new CD that's coming out yes so we have 75 00:10:17,35 --> 00:10:21,50 a new CD We have three studio C.D.'s with my house. 76 00:10:23,93 --> 00:10:30,80 Home studio and. I mainly handled the production for the first three C.D.'s and we 77 00:10:30,81 --> 00:10:31,88 felt like we had a bit of 78 00:10:31,89 --> 00:10:38,79 a wall. Where we could take the music and you know so for the CD We just finished. 79 00:10:39,59 --> 00:10:39,99 We may have 80 00:10:40,00 --> 00:10:46,87 a copy for you maybe. But we just finished it with with the producer we did look 81 00:10:46,88 --> 00:10:53,81 around for producers for this one we want to take the next step have someone on 82 00:10:53,82 --> 00:10:59,58 the outside try to look at what we're doing and. We went probably looked at four or 83 00:10:59,59 --> 00:11:03,52 five different producers then it up when they got in court Harmon thank you guys no 84 00:11:04,01 --> 00:11:10,14 we didn't and now. CHRIS What was the reasoning behind that 85 00:11:10,53 --> 00:11:17,05 so. For me when we were kind of interviewing or just meeting 86 00:11:17,42 --> 00:11:23,56 different producers. Craig was the one guy who sat with me for two hours and just 87 00:11:23,57 --> 00:11:29,95 talked what do you like about music what why are you. Trying to use 88 00:11:29,96 --> 00:11:35,44 a producer what's your why did why do you think you can do it home you know why you 89 00:11:35,45 --> 00:11:39,38 know why you're here and what you're trying to do and really dug into it and then 90 00:11:39,39 --> 00:11:44,09 at the end of it he said I think I understand what you're looking for and you're 91 00:11:44,10 --> 00:11:50,01 looking to define a sound for your next CD and he said you know I have 92 00:11:50,02 --> 00:11:52,89 a vision from the C.D.'s you've given me came to see us live 93 00:11:52,90 --> 00:11:58,56 a couple. And he talked about their vision and I said that's exactly what we're 94 00:11:58,57 --> 00:12:05,41 looking for someone to help us do that so he. It resonated with me what he said 95 00:12:05,42 --> 00:12:09,38 and so we ended up going with Kurt and it was 96 00:12:09,68 --> 00:12:16,42 a great experience I think Critz more Mickey like the now oh OK I love you. Like. 97 00:12:18,17 --> 00:12:22,66 Well we had talked when we first met we I had gone down to talk to him after Dave 98 00:12:22,67 --> 00:12:28,74 had met with him and I do graphic design right you know right and I'll be working 99 00:12:28,75 --> 00:12:29,32 on the C.V. 100 00:12:29,33 --> 00:12:34,38 Design and I'll throw all these things you know on the canvas right knowing full 101 00:12:34,39 --> 00:12:38,93 well that not everything's going to stay right and then slowly you pull things away 102 00:12:38,94 --> 00:12:43,77 and you. To what is you're going to keep but it's kind of the process that he's 103 00:12:43,81 --> 00:12:48,01 very similar in that that he had all of these things may make someone nervous that 104 00:12:48,49 --> 00:12:55,20 that likes to not have that going on. In the final but I could always 105 00:12:55,21 --> 00:13:00,77 see along the process where he was going and I just and he would tell us that along 106 00:13:00,78 --> 00:13:05,60 the way that you know I'm just throwing this here just so I can can you know gold 107 00:13:05,61 --> 00:13:10,16 and say I know that that doesn't belong there unless you put it there you don't 108 00:13:10,17 --> 00:13:14,78 know that. And he came at it with you know just 109 00:13:14,79 --> 00:13:19,69 a different perspective which was which sometimes we have different styles 110 00:13:19,70 --> 00:13:24,83 sometimes but we all we always come together but. To kind of take 111 00:13:24,84 --> 00:13:29,54 a little bit from each of us and then to hear what what he came up with to blend 112 00:13:29,55 --> 00:13:34,77 those two things which you know we may not have seen things it was pretty amazing. 113 00:13:36,43 --> 00:13:43,17 He. Has an interesting perspective on what he called Girl with 114 00:13:43,18 --> 00:13:47,30 guitar. He said You know I don't want to make 115 00:13:47,31 --> 00:13:53,56 a record the score was guitar for you guys for us and which was interesting because 116 00:13:53,60 --> 00:13:59,59 it's like well we're going to go with because our robot will see and understand 117 00:13:59,60 --> 00:14:04,70 what he meant when you when you get to hear hopefully you'll feel what he was going 118 00:14:04,71 --> 00:14:08,98 for which is I want to focus on the song you know focus on make you boys in the 119 00:14:08,99 --> 00:14:15,94 lyrics and the. The feeling of the song and really create that 120 00:14:15,95 --> 00:14:22,26 feeling and kind of tapestry of what we're trying to do there so. For me it was 121 00:14:22,27 --> 00:14:25,21 a great learning experience. So it's 122 00:14:25,22 --> 00:14:31,31 a great. Really goes well we'll see when you listen to the CD I can't wait to hear 123 00:14:31,32 --> 00:14:34,69 it and he's a Walking Dead fans oh 124 00:14:34,70 --> 00:14:39,86 a very you know we couldn't do that and then the last ones like the problem. What 125 00:14:39,87 --> 00:14:46,71 about what about this so that that adds to the. Relationship right if. 126 00:14:48,65 --> 00:14:49,32 Now I want to talk 127 00:14:49,33 --> 00:14:56,11 a little bit about the CD itself the inspiration behind the music and the 128 00:14:56,12 --> 00:14:59,07 songs that they're written for this year. Give me 129 00:14:59,08 --> 00:15:04,02 a little bit about that so we went into the CD we had 130 00:15:04,03 --> 00:15:10,93 a bunch of songs but the new songs we had some old songs that we really did. And 131 00:15:10,94 --> 00:15:17,33 what we really focused on was critics saying 132 00:15:17,56 --> 00:15:21,28 and us together saying we want to kind of redefine a sound and have 133 00:15:21,29 --> 00:15:28,06 a really cohesive feeling sound so when you put the CD and you say oh that's 134 00:15:28,72 --> 00:15:33,05 David making the rafters and really has a sound to it OK So from 135 00:15:33,10 --> 00:15:38,59 a sonic standpoint. That was kind of the production side of it right from the 136 00:15:38,63 --> 00:15:43,16 writing side of it you know Mickey so some of the songs were all or some of them 137 00:15:43,17 --> 00:15:47,23 and were newer. But all seem to have 138 00:15:47,24 --> 00:15:53,89 a general theme of. Hope in there and. Going 139 00:15:53,90 --> 00:16:00,53 through your daily activities right OK so 140 00:16:00,78 --> 00:16:07,65 songs of. How you would define. It so probably whenever people describe the 141 00:16:07,66 --> 00:16:10,58 songs because from where I come from they come from 142 00:16:10,59 --> 00:16:16,72 a different place but they always end up hopeful So I guess that's maybe what I try 143 00:16:16,73 --> 00:16:18,18 to do in my life like 144 00:16:18,55 --> 00:16:22,37 a lot of the songs will come from something that's really not that pleasant. 145 00:16:25,19 --> 00:16:31,99 How I pull through that is kind of where the song goes. So 146 00:16:32,00 --> 00:16:35,24 whether it's for me it's hard to say you know they're all songs of hope and happy 147 00:16:35,25 --> 00:16:40,02 but that's not where they range from originated for me to super But if that's what 148 00:16:40,03 --> 00:16:44,01 people take from that then I guess that's kind of the message that comes through me 149 00:16:44,02 --> 00:16:50,19 that OK if you're going through this and this there is hope or to look at. 150 00:16:51,68 --> 00:16:55,63 So that's a nice way of going to the problem even though it's coming from 151 00:16:55,64 --> 00:17:00,56 a different for people to take that message away so it must make you feel pretty 152 00:17:00,57 --> 00:17:05,89 good does it when you get that kind of feedback from your room your fans or someone 153 00:17:05,90 --> 00:17:11,69 know first here's your music to you so it's always interesting to to hear you know 154 00:17:11,73 --> 00:17:16,72 people ask what it was that want to vote this and sometimes you don't want to 155 00:17:16,73 --> 00:17:21,76 define what that is because whatever it would mean to you because it specifically 156 00:17:21,77 --> 00:17:28,01 came from this instance but it could spread to other things 157 00:17:28,36 --> 00:17:34,97 something else. OK so where 158 00:17:35,91 --> 00:17:41,53 has the C B C D been released or when it's you know we're we're still thinking 159 00:17:41,54 --> 00:17:44,81 about what to do with the CD OK we have 160 00:17:44,82 --> 00:17:50,45 a CD release party you know what we do we've talked about doing kind of the smaller 161 00:17:50,45 --> 00:17:57,33 . Shows like listening then you know maybe some home concerts 162 00:17:57,34 --> 00:18:01,55 or we're still kind of working through what we're going to do with it but we know 163 00:18:01,56 --> 00:18:08,26 we don't. Right now we're not feeling like doing the traditional type of thing 164 00:18:08,27 --> 00:18:12,42 that we've done before many times that Joe lot of bands do which is you have 165 00:18:12,43 --> 00:18:15,65 a lease of a big CD release party and you have 166 00:18:15,66 --> 00:18:22,08 a few shows but we're trying to look at this differently I guess would be announce 167 00:18:22,09 --> 00:18:27,45 what the title of it is me to make that seem like more sense sure is that so the 168 00:18:27,46 --> 00:18:33,60 new title is called the parting hurry OK The name of the CD So the first three you 169 00:18:33,61 --> 00:18:40,59 know recorded albums we kind of just were moving along and they kind 170 00:18:40,60 --> 00:18:43,37 of had a set to them if you see the covers 171 00:18:43,38 --> 00:18:49,90 a very similar library we're certainly felt you know our kids are kind of we're 172 00:18:50,24 --> 00:18:55,39 done with that phase. Is Right and that was the family phase we kind of were in 173 00:18:55,40 --> 00:18:59,61 that so that's what the songs were about and now we're kind of coming out of that 174 00:18:59,62 --> 00:19:05,99 and coming back to to who we are and we thinking you know and we 175 00:19:06,71 --> 00:19:12,83 working with Chris to try to sit down and say who who are we now so 176 00:19:13,67 --> 00:19:15,11 redefining who you are as 177 00:19:15,12 --> 00:19:21,39 a musician stories and defining what what we have been. Through all of the children 178 00:19:21,40 --> 00:19:25,64 we all just up for are the same people but now we're kind of OK here here here's 179 00:19:25,65 --> 00:19:30,96 who we are OK but other than that it's still about family and things but. 180 00:19:32,61 --> 00:19:36,73 But the it's coming back to focus on you as 181 00:19:36,74 --> 00:19:43,59 a couple or as artists yes really looking at trying to. Change and moving 182 00:19:44,12 --> 00:19:44,44 into 183 00:19:44,45 --> 00:19:49,20 a new direction kind of departing you all into doing that not that it was bad it 184 00:19:49,24 --> 00:19:52,78 was just ready to you know it seemed like the three and if you look at them 185 00:19:52,79 --> 00:19:53,69 together that's it's 186 00:19:53,70 --> 00:20:00,31 a set and rather than continue that phase already this is and I'm on the 187 00:20:00,32 --> 00:20:07,24 next phase and yes. Now 188 00:20:08,04 --> 00:20:08,23 it's 189 00:20:08,24 --> 00:20:15,40 a five song CD. Why are we now that's very different from most C.D.'s 190 00:20:15,41 --> 00:20:20,12 I mean is this ten songs over there are twelve songs that you're just doing the 191 00:20:20,13 --> 00:20:26,75 five songs what's the thinking behind that so we do think quite 192 00:20:26,76 --> 00:20:33,03 a bit about you know what we wanted to do you know five songs two songs three songs 193 00:20:33,04 --> 00:20:39,96 one song you know well what is it we're going to do. And. If we step 194 00:20:39,97 --> 00:20:42,69 back and look at the goal of what we're trying to do which was really have 195 00:20:42,70 --> 00:20:47,63 a cohesive tight sound and message you know with 196 00:20:47,64 --> 00:20:54,47 a single CD. We felt that. In five songs you know there's 197 00:20:54,48 --> 00:21:01,29 a lot of other acts doing five songs each piece you know. And some of my favorite 198 00:21:01,30 --> 00:21:06,21 local cd's are five songs C.D.'s right now because you know you put the CD and it's 199 00:21:06,22 --> 00:21:10,70 like this short little burst of five you know hopefully what we would consider our 200 00:21:10,71 --> 00:21:17,57 best songs or the Psalms and. It's about as much is you know if I think 201 00:21:17,58 --> 00:21:22,91 personally very. I don't buy C.D.'s much any longer anyways. 202 00:21:24,77 --> 00:21:25,76 And I often will get 203 00:21:25,77 --> 00:21:30,91 a ten twelve fourteen song CD and even artists that I really like you know fall out 204 00:21:30,92 --> 00:21:37,22 I'm like it's too much can't consume fourteen songs any longer or I'm picking 205 00:21:37,23 --> 00:21:43,08 through these songs there's three or four songs that I really resonate with Mary so 206 00:21:43,12 --> 00:21:48,50 our thinking on going on five was you know what let's try something different for 207 00:21:48,51 --> 00:21:51,88 as we've released and songs and really stay to 208 00:21:51,89 --> 00:21:58,74 a tight message tight sound. And. I mean I guess it begs the. 209 00:21:59,95 --> 00:22:06,19 You know larger question around where C.D.'s going right. And 210 00:22:06,86 --> 00:22:12,99 you know we struggle with that ourselves like do we print C.D.'s Do we just do one 211 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:19,43 line now we like C.D.'s We like the physical I think from live shows we still need 212 00:22:19,44 --> 00:22:25,80 them but do we need C.D.'s of your promoter and. And someone who 213 00:22:26,15 --> 00:22:27,46 manages bands and you get 214 00:22:27,47 --> 00:22:32,90 a lot of C.D.'s or do you get C.D.'s anymore or is it all online well. 215 00:22:34,12 --> 00:22:34,87 Personally I have 216 00:22:35,02 --> 00:22:42,49 a lot of. He says the medals are online carries. The 217 00:22:42,50 --> 00:22:48,17 SEE THE have it's kind of. Slowed down in terms of people's time in your physical 218 00:22:48,73 --> 00:22:55,66 care so you go on line your lists you know you have. To someone sends 219 00:22:55,67 --> 00:22:55,82 me 220 00:22:55,83 --> 00:23:05,47 a link to listen to like one song rebirth nation so there's all this different. Avenues 221 00:23:05,48 --> 00:23:11,25 for me to hear music now as opposed to getting the physical CD but I do agree with 222 00:23:11,26 --> 00:23:17,96 you that especially at shows you are have product and you want to be able to. You 223 00:23:17,97 --> 00:23:23,26 know sell that to someone who likes your music that when you are playing live they 224 00:23:23,27 --> 00:23:26,36 want to take their home with them so actually this is 225 00:23:26,37 --> 00:23:32,57 a good way to go into my next question about the industry itself up you and I 226 00:23:32,58 --> 00:23:38,80 talked about how we're seeing the industry changing the music industry changing in 227 00:23:38,84 --> 00:23:45,81 the way things are presented. With your take on how things are changing. 228 00:23:47,01 --> 00:23:50,60 Well I think you know if talking about C.D.'s You know I have 229 00:23:50,61 --> 00:23:54,21 a thirteen year old we have a thirteen year old daughter and she's never bought 230 00:23:54,22 --> 00:23:59,41 a CD in her life right and nor will she ever. Read she just unless we buy them and 231 00:23:59,61 --> 00:24:05,92 this is the fifth. I think we have something to play it on let me show you. You 232 00:24:05,93 --> 00:24:09,34 know if you if you look at it like that right now she shall never buy 233 00:24:09,35 --> 00:24:16,13 a CD. And then you go you know of two to me who love C.D.'s I love physical product 234 00:24:16,14 --> 00:24:22,90 and even I have stopped buying C.D.'s I think we've bought the card Bernie Carlisle 235 00:24:22,91 --> 00:24:25,64 CD and a large McKenna CD and they were 236 00:24:25,65 --> 00:24:31,34 a CD in the past three years I still like them I struggled I think the hardest 237 00:24:31,35 --> 00:24:36,73 because I being in designer I like to have the tangible thing where. I think 238 00:24:36,74 --> 00:24:42,33 everything's just so quick quick quick which you're kind of forced to jump into the 239 00:24:42,34 --> 00:24:47,70 river you can't I can hang back as long as I can you know without moving forward 240 00:24:47,71 --> 00:24:52,10 but I text now. That in 241 00:24:52,11 --> 00:24:56,69 a few years ago I had the you know there are some people that are resistant to that 242 00:24:56,96 --> 00:25:02,85 I text very little. You know yeah I mean it was the same when you went from albums 243 00:25:03,57 --> 00:25:08,85 where I thought it was such a big deal to get a record and to have 244 00:25:08,86 --> 00:25:12,77 a look at this big thing with our you don't put it up and that's about all you 245 00:25:12,78 --> 00:25:17,97 really knew of the artist right and maybe you'd get some magazine that might have 246 00:25:17,98 --> 00:25:22,14 an article about it right right but now it's you know if you want to know anything 247 00:25:22,15 --> 00:25:27,13 about an artist it's Facebook and Twitter and you can see every concert online on 248 00:25:27,14 --> 00:25:32,82 You Tube whether it's true or not heated you know but it's you know so I think from 249 00:25:32,83 --> 00:25:37,65 a recording standpoint it is it's changing and I know 250 00:25:37,66 --> 00:25:42,78 a lot of friends of mine in bands were struggling to understand what to do but I 251 00:25:42,79 --> 00:25:47,29 think for right now seems to still make sense to produce 252 00:25:47,30 --> 00:25:51,90 a CD to C.D.'s even though you know the sure their version of it with the five 253 00:25:51,91 --> 00:25:58,01 songs makes more sense to do there. Now what about you know the live music going to 254 00:25:58,02 --> 00:26:04,67 shows playing. Field that's going. Well for musicians 255 00:26:05,01 --> 00:26:11,71 it's. It's interesting we look back ten years ago even though 256 00:26:12,62 --> 00:26:17,10 it doesn't seem that long ago when it went but ten years ago more people when I 257 00:26:17,52 --> 00:26:23,85 write you know nowadays I think people have so much. Ability to you know the 258 00:26:24,20 --> 00:26:28,90 five hundred six hundred channels on your cable you have You Tube you have concert 259 00:26:28,91 --> 00:26:33,31 window right so do I want to go out and spend fifteen dollars for 260 00:26:33,32 --> 00:26:38,41 a ticket and drive and then you know dinner maybe if it's someplace that served 261 00:26:38,45 --> 00:26:40,48 dinner and drinks and next thing you know it's 262 00:26:40,49 --> 00:26:46,46 a hundred dollar night or do I just turn on You Tube and watch the recording of it 263 00:26:46,47 --> 00:26:51,97 the same one Yeah so it's been you know I think that the shows that we just played 264 00:26:51,98 --> 00:26:58,75 a show that was. When they created this special events you know in places that 265 00:26:58,76 --> 00:27:04,49 maybe typically. You don't have to show. We're still seeing 266 00:27:04,53 --> 00:27:11,23 a good support for the support so is that the way things go in 267 00:27:11,24 --> 00:27:15,50 terms of. Doing a show producing a show is make it 268 00:27:15,51 --> 00:27:21,22 a special event do something that entices the audience to come in to see you and 269 00:27:21,23 --> 00:27:21,98 not just do 270 00:27:21,99 --> 00:27:28,62 a coffee house scene but do something else make it special do you know and do 271 00:27:28,76 --> 00:27:35,41 something to that somehow to get people to come out to see you. It's tough 272 00:27:35,71 --> 00:27:40,96 it's tough because the way things are going I'm hoping that either things come to 273 00:27:40,97 --> 00:27:47,67 a halt like with anything and people realize like we like I miss going out and 274 00:27:47,89 --> 00:27:48,44 being at 275 00:27:48,45 --> 00:27:53,95 a place where other people appreciate this music that I appreciate you know everyone's 276 00:27:54,05 --> 00:27:56,98 home alone. So maybe they'll come 277 00:27:56,99 --> 00:28:03,08 a point where everything just stops and then will come back in fashion again you 278 00:28:03,09 --> 00:28:07,18 know already happens where it happens in history with with everything and then it's 279 00:28:07,19 --> 00:28:11,18 going to be you know Chloe's wearing eighty's things now I'm like wait those are 280 00:28:11,19 --> 00:28:16,50 mice. And they're new now so I'm going to open that that does happen and you kind 281 00:28:16,51 --> 00:28:21,34 of take what what was good and you appreciate that later on so hopefully the good 282 00:28:21,35 --> 00:28:25,99 things that that we've gone through will will survive and come there and come back 283 00:28:26,00 --> 00:28:32,44 again. Well. You're ready to do some more music for this 284 00:28:33,04 --> 00:28:35,86 I would love to have you OK So 285 00:28:35,87 --> 00:28:42,70 a couple more songs for us. So. David VICKEY. 286 00:28:52,38 --> 00:28:52,65 And. 287 00:29:15,65 --> 00:29:20,66 Driving down. Little. Kids. 288 00:29:23,62 --> 00:29:28,45 Girls are. Hand is. 289 00:29:40,36 --> 00:29:46,69 Bad. Cause. Funny. Guys. 290 00:29:52,51 --> 00:29:53,07 Car to. 291 00:30:01,03 --> 00:30:07,85 Keep. Good. Words to. 292 00:30:09,39 --> 00:30:10,15 Mind is. 293 00:30:34,26 --> 00:30:39,42 Smarts stop. National Drama there's. 294 00:30:42,39 --> 00:30:47,06 Two sides. Soon. 295 00:30:50,89 --> 00:30:55,86 Just. To Karen down. 296 00:30:59,05 --> 00:31:05,76 That sketch show it's. Called by girl got. Rid of. 297 00:31:07,31 --> 00:31:08,07 Pandas. 298 00:31:22,31 --> 00:31:24,93 See. Is. 299 00:32:23,82 --> 00:32:25,01 In my little green. 300 00:32:49,10 --> 00:32:53,72 Lab He's changing. Still say. 301 00:33:00,41 --> 00:33:06,33 On. I remember the. 302 00:33:07,36 --> 00:33:13,23 Office saying that happen. To. 303 00:33:23,64 --> 00:33:29,21 Have. Some. 304 00:33:35,82 --> 00:33:42,35 Fog. Out above. 305 00:33:44,01 --> 00:33:50,52 The. Fry. 306 00:33:56,94 --> 00:33:57,56 I should. 307 00:34:06,74 --> 00:34:10,83 Never. Never going to. 308 00:34:16,69 --> 00:34:19,36 Go all the. Wall. 309 00:34:23,70 --> 00:34:24,64 Never going to go 310 00:34:24,65 --> 00:34:35,45 a lot. Lot. On 311 00:34:35,45 --> 00:34:35,45 . 312 00:35:01,87 --> 00:35:07,93 And still for the seat. And home. 313 00:35:10,11 --> 00:35:10,43 Bench. 314 00:35:16,93 --> 00:35:18,46 Things that happen. 315 00:35:24,75 --> 00:35:25,42 Who are. 316 00:35:33,13 --> 00:35:37,97 Never going to vote for never going to. Battle never. 317 00:35:40,89 --> 00:35:45,47 Never going to go or never going to go bad on that. 318 00:35:48,54 --> 00:35:54,38 Never going to go out never going to goal bad oh never be me. 319 00:35:56,20 --> 00:36:01,58 Never going to roll up Nabel going to roll that all never being me. 320 00:36:07,74 --> 00:36:14,73 So. The steps ones on the new SUV use will. 321 00:36:36,94 --> 00:36:42,56 Every thing had. From. 322 00:36:46,67 --> 00:36:53,38 Those. Days. Stay. 323 00:37:02,47 --> 00:37:03,20 And see 324 00:37:04,18 --> 00:37:10,05 a. Good way to pull it out on the. 325 00:37:14,42 --> 00:37:21,37 Planet and. With. Some junior 326 00:37:21,62 --> 00:37:23,99 high. Lives. 327 00:37:41,51 --> 00:37:46,39 And homes. Never lasts. 328 00:37:54,50 --> 00:38:01,00 I'll sign. When the sun. 329 00:38:12,89 --> 00:38:18,67 Put. On. You. 330 00:38:20,33 --> 00:38:26,76 And. To live our. 331 00:38:28,43 --> 00:38:28,76 Lives. 332 00:38:59,14 --> 00:38:59,70 And see. 333 00:39:06,13 --> 00:39:07,28 On T.V. 334 00:39:07,28 --> 00:39:12,49 . And told. 335 00:39:15,87 --> 00:39:17,32 Me. To. 336 00:39:40,44 --> 00:39:47,29 Get. Right. And someone. Will Come visit 337 00:39:47,30 --> 00:39:49,26 to come back yeah it's 338 00:39:49,74 --> 00:39:55,81 a great song wonderful song. Now I have 339 00:39:55,82 --> 00:39:59,16 a question about the songwriting process. 340 00:40:03,10 --> 00:40:08,57 Because the dynamics of the two of you are as a couple. And you've been together 341 00:40:08,58 --> 00:40:15,31 a long time. How does that. Must make things interesting in the songwriting 342 00:40:15,32 --> 00:40:21,45 process I mean this is just yes we're going to make dinner together with somebody 343 00:40:21,46 --> 00:40:22,07 you've been together 344 00:40:22,08 --> 00:40:25,90 a really long time how does that work. When you make dinner with us. 345 00:40:31,34 --> 00:40:36,77 That is good. We have a good day I think we've kind of gotten into 346 00:40:36,78 --> 00:40:40,23 a good groove together OK we typically write 347 00:40:40,24 --> 00:40:46,94 a lot you know so making I will write her songs. On her own you know write my 348 00:40:46,95 --> 00:40:53,90 songs. Then we come together as the songs are 349 00:40:54,29 --> 00:41:00,38 due to being written We're passing each other in the kitchen or the basement OK and 350 00:41:00,39 --> 00:41:02,40 she's hearing oh he's got a new song or 351 00:41:02,41 --> 00:41:07,01 a hero she thought it was funny that at some point when they're about ready we'll 352 00:41:07,05 --> 00:41:12,25 play the song for one another OK And then at that point we typically. 353 00:41:15,91 --> 00:41:22,36 You know Mickey will come and say oh what if I did you know show at her parts to 354 00:41:22,37 --> 00:41:26,71 myself I did a background thing here on the harmony here or repeated 355 00:41:26,72 --> 00:41:32,25 a line here you know and from that then maybe I'll go back and rework some things 356 00:41:32,26 --> 00:41:35,64 you know written and then you know Mickey shot 357 00:41:35,65 --> 00:41:41,44 a song that I want to do it so what if we. Added the bridge test of the bridge part 358 00:41:41,45 --> 00:41:46,03 of the beginning and so we'll work on the song together but typically the songs are 359 00:41:46,04 --> 00:41:46,51 written 360 00:41:46,80 --> 00:41:53,46 a lot you know individual you know very. Interesting. And then we knew that I 361 00:41:53,47 --> 00:41:57,55 always thought that you know that you were working together on the right have 362 00:41:57,59 --> 00:42:04,15 different styles style I guess knowledge and style too so you can map 363 00:42:04,51 --> 00:42:11,26 each song differently in Perth. I think so. I mean 364 00:42:11,46 --> 00:42:17,98 I typically will start with. You know some sort of feeling you know from writing 365 00:42:17,99 --> 00:42:22,48 a song about. Well on the last CD we have 366 00:42:22,49 --> 00:42:29,03 a song Take my hand inspired about kind of people who never give up on somebody OK 367 00:42:29,09 --> 00:42:36,04 so. Because I have that feeling I don't even have the words or there's no you 368 00:42:36,05 --> 00:42:40,55 know lyrics to it per se but I'll start playing the guitar to match that sick 369 00:42:40,56 --> 00:42:45,28 however that feelings come across then from the guitar parts and the chords and 370 00:42:45,29 --> 00:42:51,55 then mumble words the melodies and then the lyrics tend to come last for me. 371 00:42:52,85 --> 00:42:58,05 But I know they work to thank you we can't wait till I know we're similar and. 372 00:43:00,65 --> 00:43:07,27 Usually something that I lose sleep over OK You know it's something I only 373 00:43:07,49 --> 00:43:14,28 until I started writing songs which was about that. So 374 00:43:14,65 --> 00:43:21,26 when I wrote my first song I'd always please just. Play but I never bought it and I 375 00:43:21,27 --> 00:43:27,79 wrote poems and things like that. But. When I did start writing songs it 376 00:43:28,14 --> 00:43:32,54 would come from something that happened or snapshot of 377 00:43:33,15 --> 00:43:39,12 a memory or something and I can't get out of my head right someone is lead to Yeah 378 00:43:39,43 --> 00:43:45,78 well someone needs to hear this. In the tower and that's how it comes and normally 379 00:43:45,79 --> 00:43:52,68 it's. I'll play the guitar. And then it comes from there 380 00:43:53,52 --> 00:43:59,64 sometimes all right like one thing in then. Filter I told you. 381 00:44:01,40 --> 00:44:06,74 So you guys work really well together then putting the songs together and building 382 00:44:06,75 --> 00:44:11,35 on them adding to them in and tell they and I know it takes 383 00:44:11,36 --> 00:44:16,74 a while to really polish your songs I know when you first start out you know and 384 00:44:16,75 --> 00:44:20,55 then you add to it later after playing it out 385 00:44:20,73 --> 00:44:27,22 a few times and you know I think that's important to play front of people right 386 00:44:27,23 --> 00:44:32,70 right and and it could be just you know the people here right could be you know for 387 00:44:32,71 --> 00:44:34,54 people at our house or or 388 00:44:34,55 --> 00:44:40,46 a concert you know with this more people but I think that the playing the song live 389 00:44:40,47 --> 00:44:45,65 and understanding kind of the form and the dynamics of how the song is flowing. 390 00:44:47,39 --> 00:44:53,81 You know really. Can help decide you know I think that's so we had talked about the 391 00:44:53,82 --> 00:45:00,30 new CD We redid some songs because we recorded them originally just as we hadn't 392 00:45:00,31 --> 00:45:01,02 played them up 393 00:45:01,07 --> 00:45:06,53 a lot you know and then the songs changed over time as we started performing them 394 00:45:06,66 --> 00:45:08,68 you know in front of people and in 395 00:45:08,69 --> 00:45:14,91 a feeling the energies where it would go. So I think go for us we've learned that. 396 00:45:16,35 --> 00:45:22,19 You know we shouldn't just write the song play it in our kitchen record we need to 397 00:45:22,64 --> 00:45:28,99 go out and perform it and really start to understand. From that perspective because 398 00:45:29,00 --> 00:45:33,84 it it changes you know what you do we do right we end up. 399 00:45:35,87 --> 00:45:40,79 Adding art here and there are taking things away even more importantly sometimes or 400 00:45:41,76 --> 00:45:48,75 so it sounds like to have mastered. The process between the two you. Know 401 00:45:48,76 --> 00:45:54,67 I know. You have your moments. This is kind of what I do I'll write 402 00:45:54,68 --> 00:45:59,42 a song and I will play it over and over and it could be just like this stream of 403 00:45:59,43 --> 00:46:01,68 consciousness type how I write 404 00:46:01,72 --> 00:46:06,92 a song right and then I'll know and when I'm ready to let him listen when it's and 405 00:46:06,93 --> 00:46:12,38 I we always times it is not done this is not the just and this part and as you sing 406 00:46:12,39 --> 00:46:12,68 it like 407 00:46:12,69 --> 00:46:19,75 a spread I'm just saying this but form wise that's where I He helps me the most 408 00:46:19,75 --> 00:46:26,66 . Sometimes you know but in my mind I'm like that's just what I need to say and 409 00:46:27,00 --> 00:46:33,33 understand that I don't think in terms of this is music structure right and. 410 00:46:34,67 --> 00:46:37,31 How it should be OK 411 00:46:37,36 --> 00:46:42,53 a rule follow or you know how do you know and I think you're trained for the right 412 00:46:42,54 --> 00:46:45,47 training being you know or you know 413 00:46:45,48 --> 00:46:49,76 a verse is for measures and then there's the Precor and a chorus and then 414 00:46:49,77 --> 00:46:56,17 a that doesn't come in right right so that's where we kind of we we understand and 415 00:46:56,18 --> 00:47:00,98 then we get through that like OK but I really like that part of the call that's the 416 00:47:01,03 --> 00:47:07,44 only thing that you usually use it gets chopped. And then I get over it OK. 417 00:47:10,13 --> 00:47:16,70 But yeah and it does it is the right decision right and I now down it's OK. 418 00:47:18,87 --> 00:47:22,28 You know I think. It's taken time for us to get to 419 00:47:22,29 --> 00:47:28,33 a place where I can trust what she's doing literally I. Mean. 420 00:47:30,85 --> 00:47:35,63 This is. Where we're. At. 421 00:47:37,79 --> 00:47:44,01 Mormon it's you understand why. You know you're my mix 422 00:47:44,87 --> 00:47:49,48 Yeah. OK All right well. 423 00:47:52,33 --> 00:47:58,28 From your music and I know you didn't really want me to ask this question but I'm 424 00:47:58,29 --> 00:48:03,77 going to as a spiritual back to it and. Can you talk 425 00:48:03,78 --> 00:48:08,74 a little bit about what that means to you when you write songs about spirituality. 426 00:48:10,12 --> 00:48:14,64 And most of my songs whether people would realize it or not it's just you want to 427 00:48:14,65 --> 00:48:21,41 stand it's just what I know exists OK what is here so. It 428 00:48:21,91 --> 00:48:27,10 comes from so there's certain songs that whether there are messages from someone 429 00:48:27,11 --> 00:48:33,70 else through me that's probably why I lose sleep because I feel I need to get it 430 00:48:33,71 --> 00:48:34,96 out there as 431 00:48:34,97 --> 00:48:40,57 a message from my father from his brother. Or something like that right where I 432 00:48:40,58 --> 00:48:47,55 know OK I can't rest until it's done. So and I believe. What you believe 433 00:48:47,65 --> 00:48:49,06 right that it does come from 434 00:48:49,07 --> 00:48:56,02 a different place. So as my job you know. I need to get this message to them 435 00:48:56,83 --> 00:48:57,63 and that's where 436 00:48:57,64 --> 00:49:06,24 a lot of them come from all right OK All right Rob. Well 437 00:49:06,25 --> 00:49:11,34 I really want to thank you guys for coming out today this was 438 00:49:11,35 --> 00:49:17,83 a wonderful experience for me and I hope for our dance and. I 439 00:49:18,10 --> 00:49:23,19 just really appreciate you being here so can you tell us anything coming up in the 440 00:49:23,20 --> 00:49:29,59 gigs coming up that you want to let people know about we have course all this is up 441 00:49:29,60 --> 00:49:35,91 on our online Facebook at our website OK what your website is the rafters Band dot 442 00:49:35,95 --> 00:49:38,35 com. We have 443 00:49:38,36 --> 00:49:45,20 a nice house concert coming up people eighteen. Which is in support 444 00:49:45,21 --> 00:49:46,17 of these folks do 445 00:49:46,18 --> 00:49:51,39 a lot for the past ten years I'm OK working to raise money for bringing clean water 446 00:49:51,40 --> 00:49:58,05 to some places in Africa so it's just help support that. But I mean I was about we 447 00:49:58,06 --> 00:49:59,63 have tickets 448 00:50:00,28 --> 00:50:07,07 a second. Bridgewater coffee house with Laurie diamond for OK great clay 449 00:50:07,08 --> 00:50:12,39 that's. A big one do. You know there's 450 00:50:12,40 --> 00:50:16,79 a few other little things in there so everybody can check out your website and see 451 00:50:16,80 --> 00:50:22,92 where you're playing and what's going on and then they'll be announcing the 452 00:50:23,49 --> 00:50:28,98 news. OK excited you. Can wait. 453 00:50:37,93 --> 00:50:40,42 That long. But. 454 00:50:45,98 --> 00:50:50,98 Then all manto my data on that one.