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coming up on SP NN forum Matt Ealing
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coming up on SP NN forum Matt Ealing
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so Matt Ealing
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welcome to the SPN n forum how are you
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welcome to the SPN n forum how are you
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doing glad to have you here so you you
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doing glad to have you here so you you
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have an interesting sideline that you're
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involved with public record media which
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is an organization that you describe as
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is an organization that you describe as
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a mission to pursue transparency and
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a mission to pursue transparency and
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democracy through the use application
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democracy through the use application
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information laws that's a pretty robust
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information laws that's a pretty robust
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mission so I wanted to talk with you
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mission so I wanted to talk with you
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today about how this came about sort of
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today about how this came about sort of
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history of public record media and what
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history of public record media and what
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you do so I guess first off this is not
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you do so I guess first off this is not
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your this is not your full-time job but
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your this is not your full-time job but
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kind of a passion of yours that you do
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kind of a passion of yours that you do
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spend a lot of time right so talk a
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spend a lot of time right so talk a
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little bit about your background what
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little bit about your background what
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you do and then how this came about oh
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you do and then how this came about oh
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sure so I work full-time in the
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sure so I work full-time in the
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television and communications industry
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and I've had an interest in public
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and I've had an interest in public
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records as a sideline for a long time it
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records as a sideline for a long time it
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came out of working on broadcast
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documentaries doing research and
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learning how to use the tools of the
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Freedom of Information Act and other
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open records laws and around about 2009
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open records laws and around about 2009
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I was looking around at the media
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I was looking around at the media
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landscape here in town specifically and
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landscape here in town specifically and
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talking to people I knew in the media
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talking to people I knew in the media
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business and there was a little bit of a
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business and there was a little bit of a
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vacuum created in the public record
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vacuum created in the public record
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legal landscape specifically because the
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legal landscape specifically because the
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internet had been cutting into the
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profit margins for the newspaper
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business and the newspapers have
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traditionally been the entities that
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have gone to court to uphold public
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have gone to court to uphold public
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records laws and do the litigation and
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records laws and do the litigation and
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so I thought there there was a little
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bit of a vacuum and a gap that needed
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bit of a vacuum and a gap that needed
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filling and so that was the genesis that
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the idea for having an organization that
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would make record requests publish the
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data and also get involved in in court
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data and also get involved in in court
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activities litigation as needed you know
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activities litigation as needed you know
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we're a small organization I'm a
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we're a small organization I'm a
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volunteer I do this as a volunteer I
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volunteer I do this as a volunteer I
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contribute my own money to the
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our other board members pitch in we've
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our other board members pitch in we've
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got a small number of small dollar
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got a small number of small dollar
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donors and we occasionally get some
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donors and we occasionally get some
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grants but it's it's largely volunteer
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grants but it's it's largely volunteer
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driven we have a couple contract
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driven we have a couple contract
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attorneys that we work with who give us
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attorneys that we work with who give us
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some some nice discounts to be able to
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some some nice discounts to be able to
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do the work and we have been for the
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do the work and we have been for the
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last almost ten years now in the
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last almost ten years now in the
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business of filing records requests
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about all kinds of different topics that
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