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Was. All was.

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A little. Luck and leave.

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Leave leave plan to live.

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I'm here very well here.
Here in Florida right.

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Now that's right here
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OK. Are there any council comments

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I just got one or two quick things I
just want to should note that the police

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department had their awards final awards
banquet on Friday night among the I guess

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about close to one hundred people who
were there. Which was I think the largest

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turnout ever. Cast member rate and I were
honored to be there as were the city

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manager of the deputy city manager and
it was a very nice event chief did

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a great job and I think everybody enjoyed
themselves and the number of members of

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the department were honored for some pretty
outstanding service in two thousand and

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eight and I just want to say that it was

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a wonderful event and it was good to see
the Department. Recognizing its own in

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a fine fashion and I also
just wanted to. Point

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out

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a figure that I saw in my car board packet
from the board meeting this week we

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got

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a copy of the third quarter financial report
and it was interesting to me that the

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I always knew that the crowd budget was
about like the city's budget which is about

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twenty eight or twenty nine million dollars
per year and their general fund balance

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increased to nine million
small they're not

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a college isn't exactly like
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public entity the same or more on balance

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about one hundred twenty five Holcombe
customer seems like to be there I did want

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to let the community know that we're for
it so this feeling Marty is to find

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a fresh school this Sunday
three to five yes. I'll. Still

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be charging everyone.

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Else especially they're going it was

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three finals like anybody else.

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The next item is and there are
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a quick agenda scriptural
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a week from tonight May
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a resolution adopting the strategic plan
and we have the first reading ordinance is

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. Adopting this various
ordinances and pay plans and

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the second reading of those the following
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Monday June first I would point out to
my colleagues that we have discussion of

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legislative action question be submitted
to my mail so if you have any input on

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that any ideas be sure to get them
to I assume Suzanne Ludlow in the

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remainder of this month willing to discuss
this on the first of the really this is

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a post in the literature and the next item
on our agenda discussion minutes we have

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minutes from our show Michael somebody
like me would option others. Have to move

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the second all in favor say aye all right
if you take the minutes or comp to

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zero and hearing has membership or pipe
up from the. From the microphone from the

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phone whatever it is. Am I correct in
thinking that you may be rejoining us in

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a week is that possible.
Council member separate but.

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I'm sorry maybe not. But

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I'm not so we don't need

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a lot of background noise. Well
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Very bad as I said Am I correct in
thinking that you may be rejoining us in

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a week. Not. Next Monday night OK

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nevermind sorry I brought about the. Next
item is the public comment period for

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anybody who would like to make any comments
on anything that is nominee gender or

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anything that was on works national trend
if you have any comments to make the

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budget public hearings or any of the regular
resolutions were innocent and regular

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meeting please hold your comments for the
time that anybody would like to make

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comments you're welcome to come up and
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I wasn't sure about it being here in time
for this and not but maybe this time

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might have passed and I wasn't sure that
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believe you may have a
handout that represented

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a supplement to the. Health services
impact media reports yes you have just

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received. And are you going to
comment on. The report or the.

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Acceptance of the report. Let's
let's say. Let me speak to the

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acceptance just because I'm thinking we're
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budget hearing and he could come
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a bit but I think the focus of what I would
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of the record so. If if you feel be
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wait when you can will that be Oh very
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Wait until that time OK. But I would
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just waiting to be here in
Leeds spending the courtesy

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with short I. Will move to the city

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managers She has known so. We will move to

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the public hearing this is

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a her second public hearing on the fiscal
year two thousand and ten budget. Is the

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OK Would anybody like
to make any comments at

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a public hearing on the fourth
two thousand and ten budget

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if you can going to for yourself please
keep the comments to three OK And Catherine

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give me three fifteen Lincoln Avenue this
is my third visit here is some of you

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know. I would like your
proposed in the budget garden

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a constant yield test straight and I got
that right. That that the role that enough

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that there be no property tax
increase this year you know I guess I

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could go on and on but I just want to say
I mean the senior citizen. You know this

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is really

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a killer for someone like myself. And
I know they're I'm also representing

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a friend who came with me last year last
week Brianna why do we're going to live on

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Carol she is recovering as you may have
noticed that night from breast cancer and

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they just couldn't make the night but she
would like to throw her hat in the ring

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guarding it to. Us. I would like it it's
something that I'm sorry I did not know

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that you do right this minute this is

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a proposal concrete thing will be licensed
but it's six dollars each from my

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reading that Rose does your
proposal to increase that there was

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a proposal because it's not included in
this letter that's not leadership correct

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OK So that's my comment you know OK I you
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not get into this in that you know how
should I but I feel just deeply very

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strongly about this and I really feel like
people because that notice in the news

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that it was so hard cycle what it means
that you know I don't think people really

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understand that there could be

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a pretty great problem you
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assessments go down thing
that's going to be

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a very big problem for the city that I mean
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I mean I guess I'm just
worried that there's

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a chance she'd like push up the property
taxes low there for next year and you know

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in this compass someplace else that needs
to come from someplace else so let's say

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. One of us could pass the question
was I greatly appreciate you

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coming special your
opinion. And I think it is

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a very hard thing we're dealing with in
terms of increasing the taxes and I'm just

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curious I do like to hear from so the sense
if you're proposing that we have no tax

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increase What do you think in our budget
we should cut OK I really haven't studied

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enough you know I would have liked it but
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primarily you want to look at all four
sessions it is something that you are OK I

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personally feel like this has started
here personnel that I don't like say that

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like the fact jobs etc
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people who want to do that but they
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the can wait. Stop hurting. And

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you know I've heard great that it was
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sighed I think forward. Not

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a low rate that. Can be
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and just to to comment on the
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Was leaving the rate at sixty point five
cents and the constant yield rate was

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fifty five eight point five zero point
one and of the proposal where we are now

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after the first work sessions is to drop
it to fifty eight point five So that's

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what it's getting towards.
But not reaching half of the

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increase in the wealth of the difference
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proposed rate. So. Close to

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five percent. Right.

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Now just saying. That. Raphael roughly OK.

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When we actually got to push it was quite
right since I think I'm going to. Get out

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of that. I think she was mentioned there
that there was perhaps in part to.

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Where we have to finish that after the
public hearing we have one item to discuss

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and then we'll know exactly where it's
going to click OK and there's one more

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public hearing on the budget and there are
there are there this is the last public

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hearing but then we have. We have next
Monday and the following Monday we have

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first reading and second reading of the
ordinances with another chance to. Another

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change so there are so there are you
anybody can comment on any of the bunch of

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items thank you and I also want to make
sure that you're aware of the state program

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and has the which has the county piggyback
on it in the same program which can be

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found for possible reductions in
homeowner property taxes for.

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Homeowners tax credit Yes yes I am I
mean quite frankly I am in also in the

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prevention of foreclosure program the
county and you know I just wonder how many

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people here in this campaign for you said
they've been to come up Mark and I know I

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think is about thirty thirty five I wonder
how many other people are like you know

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vision problems that they face another
like OK Thank you thanks for your comments

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as anybody else would like to speak

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a thing but through public
hearing. Now you're right.

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It's good.

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To give you

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a chance for the second anybody else
for the budget public hearing OK

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then I will close the pleasure
public hearing. And we have one

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item to the Scots with that
but Mr Wylie is here to. Make

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a public comment I believe and I want to
give you the chance to do that and then

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he'll Quang I don't have to discuss family

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thank you very much. I want
to thank each of you for the

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commitment to pull that she's
made ten thousand dollars.

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The second thing is that I wanted. To
let you know that we got some good news

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that's

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a good day. Yesterday as
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I'd. Consider did my
mission I think in sixty.

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Ask not what my government coming
country can do for you ask what

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you can do for the my family County Council
he said that was the right way and

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heard previously. With the help of the

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good chairman of our public advisory committee
Kerry saying we've put together what

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I referred to the day midnight memo. We

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had with your ten thousand we had the
situation down to eighty three times and we

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also had calculated that we would
have twenty seven thousand from

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revenues generated this year
probably about seventeen dollars

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fifteen at the end of April fifteenth two
thousand and based on that projected for

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that matter. We got twenty seven thousand
that graphic to fifteen seconds.

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We then made. To fifty

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percent. To fifty

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percent cuts in items in the budget
which got it down to two hundred thirty

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eight houses which the family
that in this with the big

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point that we made that we are
giving past forty eight hours

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that I knew from the appropriation
for the four I admire and

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so this amount of damage would be

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less than forty In fact when this
went to the Treasury paid with

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a two thousand let's go they
sat and name posted the

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final decision. They didn't recommend
it for reconciliation that would then

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have

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a good step because the committee. Had not

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recommended for reconciliation but
today he's in the forty eight hours of

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the minute they were able to give us

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a final and I want to share that with
you I feel very confident given our

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experience thus far and some other.
Revenue generating kind of saying

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I feel very confident that that sure
is the pool for yet another year

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and he did indicate and I don't think this
is brash we did indicate that it didn't

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go on but I think it fully achievable and
which all of us that are working together

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again I'm committed to it that we can
make your self-sustaining for fiscal

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year eleven and I want to
thank both of the Siemens I

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should assume that Caterpillar
was there to name.

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Came again just come on your
credit. Deborah from our

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recreation department and
Robin Wright of the. Paper

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the parent company all of those
people are part of the key and

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a part of those are the credit for this.
Thank you very much good plan you probably

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hear good news there. And I
hope that the pool operations

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over the coming period of time meet and
exceed your expectations of. Revenue

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generation so other
everything can continue

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our. Tax.

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So now we'll go back to the the kind of the
one item that was left hanging from our

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the reconciliation discussion on Thursday
night just to make sure I believe we had

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some information. From the city managers
about the. Possible paving of palming

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lane and I think that was the estimate from
the city engineer was twenty or twenty

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five thousand and if you could just use
the city manager could just kind of

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share with us where the house whether that
was included in the all of the figures

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that you gave us behind the cover sheet or
how that would treat whether or how that

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would change any of the figures that
handing direction from the council that

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additional on expenditure has not been
incorporated into the figures that are

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before you send my hope was that if the
council wants to move forward with paving

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are lining up by two thousand and ten that
that direction to be given tonight so we

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can incorporate those figures into the
budget ordinances that will be presented

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next Monday. And. I guess
if you first of all

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ask for any comments from any of the council
but whether to include that or with

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your we need

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a discussion of whether we just want
to indicate where we want to go on

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that comes forward I'm OK including it
with the understanding that it wasn't the

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reason is because it was originally in
St assessment. So I see you this is

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a special case because I think we've
been stuck very strongly to the original

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assessment and done it in priority order
but my understanding from the Works

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Director was that it wasn't in that original
Cessna So for that reason really put

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an end and I would suggest that it would
come out that we wouldn't raise taxes any

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more than we already are but it would just
come out from reserve funds. You know

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what I want to get

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a clarification on that one so I have an
indication of where the council want to go

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my sense is that people wanted to include
that is there anybody who would not like

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to include the. QUESTION Yes I'm
going to clear why this was

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a street that was overlooked and we
did use us for. Why we just inserted

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a list of places where it would fall and
we'd done the assessment at the same time

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I was also goes I believe that point would
have passed about two years ago I can't

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remember seeing as I think it was overlooked
because I think it was believed to be

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a private alley and when the issue was
raised I believe by council member play as I

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recall the public works department went
back and reviewed the inventory that was

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done back and it's two thousand and four
just prior to my starting with the city.

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So that's why I was not included I think
they're all and I only had planned to do

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it in two thousand and twelve originally
essentially I stick it at the end of the

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list of the well I didn't ask to have it
were started to drive the street on Friday

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just to try to get

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a sense of your assessment of the condition
obviously it was not rated in the same

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manner that other streets in the city were
back in two thousand and four she did

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indicate that it was in poor shape
obviously there are some private areas of

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history that would not be taken as far as
this project is noted on the cover sheet

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but I don't know that she had an opinion
as to whether or not it should be in two

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thousand and eleven or two thousand and
twelve that she was comfortable saying that

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it was not in great shape and should become
some time next year the year after that

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I guess my question was succinctly is
rather than who did it and it was going to

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look if it is that one higher priority put
it to getting it was shipped everything

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else valid one. That would be

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a great question for the record structure
which fortunately is not here I think

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part of this is that there are obviously
then residents living on the streets that

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were scheduled to get forward and she
thousand and eleven happened essentially

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promised Sattar told that So I think her
thought was that she did not want to

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disappoint those residents who live on
the streets that were scheduled to come

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forward in two thousand and eleven thank
you and if I could just reiterate my point

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of

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a minute ago that I think I believe that
if the Street had been in the list and as

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all of the other ones worth it would
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a couple of years ago because it was in

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a lot worse shape than the ones that were
given it was just going to go back to

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what. I was just trying to has for the
well why don't we put it where the belongs

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in the list and it's we only want
testing. And so then if I can get some

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clarification from the city manager when
I was doing my calculations last week

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about where we ended up with the reconciliation
and we had. We didn't we didn't we

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weren't sure about dollar figure for
properly and I think at that point we were

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talking forty thousand as a as a just as

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a figure to put on it and
I'm not sure but what I

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thought was that we were kind of
somewhere between two cents and two and

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a quarter cents on the tax rate and I
thought. That we were they are including

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a placeholder for port forty thousand
for COM or lame so I didn't know if.

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Putting it and we and we said OK we'll
advertise two sets for this public hearing

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whether Palmer lane at twenty or twenty
five into that into the figures affects

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where we are on that do you have any figure.
If you look at my guess one comment is

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also noted under the special consideration
section of your cover sheet I just want

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to flies with

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a council is that I just did the projection
for the non departmental budgetary

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units decreasing that by forty thousand
dollars for the current fiscal year which

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essentially bumps up the year and fund
balance by that amount so between what you

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did last week and that change if you go
back to my original proposed budget and you

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look at. Under strict gun balance it is
actually higher in the materials that are

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before the Council this evening than what
I originally proposed that helps So in

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other words you could add Palmer lane
and you're still at an unrestricted on

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balance that is higher than that of what
I originally proposed and if we take

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that into consideration with the with where
everything else ended up and the fact

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that we were between
two and two cents into

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a quarter century if we
were to go to two and

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a quarter cents would that work with the
numbers that we've got yes it would I want

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to and if I may ask the question the finance
director I believe the county when we

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submit the tax rate only allows three digits
is that correct or they do they round

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that we have typically try to keep the
tax free to three digits basically So I

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guess what I'm suggesting is that the council
wants to adjust the tax rate from tax

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rate decrease from two cents you may want
to consider doing something other than

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she was a quarter or half going to two and

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a half because I'm not sure that the county
doesn't limit the number of digits you

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can handle that makes us more before we
can go to two point three and that with

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whatever you would like to do. Could I
guess I'll propose that we that we go

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forward with our. Items for next week

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reflecting who point three percent two
point three percent reduction which. You

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point five So it would be what is
that fifty eight point two one

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point. I was just trying to I was
trying to get lower but not go

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we are kind of the parameters of where
we were I don't know that it would be

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entirely that problematic to deal with
health come around some suggesting as I

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mentioned I don't have the exact figure I
did look at them before the meeting at

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predicted in your materials is essentially
an unrestricted climb down status about

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roughly one hundred thousand dollars
ninety thousand dollars more than what my

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original budget

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a second or so they say have you seen
that every house and on the tax rate is

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roughly ninety five thousand even if you
add in Palmer lane it's basically going to

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be

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a decrease of about twenty five thousand
from what I originally thought that was the

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most prudent but his I've
heard recently that it was

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a problem with drugs which is
just because we do three point.

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Three. Think ejecting we say don't push
your luck that's really your decision not

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mine then I guess I guess I'll propose

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two and a half I see

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a couple of yes all OK All movements
with few one more sure of

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a number of flights there
he like to have since the

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four got away because remember she's never.
Going to have her because it is unclear

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I will add Palmer lane and I would suggest
if you're going to at home or line that

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you include twenty five thousand in the
budget given some of the uncertainty right

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and then I will reflect

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a tax rate fifty eight cents yes. And

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the other comes from cuts and before
we move on her it will be used for

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a regular meeting and the first item is

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a resolution acknowledging she the final
report of the Health Services Committee

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would somebody like to move.
Over to the second time.

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When do you have anything that you
want to. I'm going to assume that's.

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Going to I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
We recommend that Ted become so

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that except the resolution of the sterling
stuff every suggestion read I think it's

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going to serve as

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a valuable starting point. For us is going
to shift with us at all and we're going

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to certainly. Their record
is very. Expert both of you

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working. Out there. Coming up some goals.

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For the council question

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is there any public comment on this
resolution which you're see the final report

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how serious is impacting that.

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I'll sneak primarily to the resolution
because. Anything else I have

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to say kind of falls under that
I wake from letter whatever. I

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don't really have any problem with the
resolution I was able to look through it.

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The last day or so. Receive a
copy of it then and I don't have

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a real problem with the with
the resolution. I I don't have

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anything against. Me sitting. Dressing
the question of health financing

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and the resolution kind of rules that
out I've been neutral on that I'm

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a member of the committee and and I'm aware
I'm very much aware of the discussion

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about. Financial aspects
of the health crisis and

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much of our health crisis have has
to do with with finance so I'm

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kind of neutral on one
match. The other major

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and I was one of the several There were

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a lot of recommendations.
For why that was one

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possibility of providing the support
funding for this is health care

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needs as particularly the under-served
and so on. Recommendation

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and I really don't have I'm kind of neutral
on they are though the committee did.

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Recommend that the city
consider. Establishing as

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a city effort an integrated clinic.
As this committee shows to which

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to us speak up and I'm kind
of neutral on that as well.

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But. And so the essentially
the resolution.

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Suggests that the city not get
involved the financing but that the.

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Rest of the report should be made available
to the appropriate entities and I'm

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very comfortable with that. And that
brings me to the settlement of the report

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that I submitted and which you should
have in your in your pack and I like to

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say just

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a word or two about that because. If I had
my druthers the report would have been

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a little different than. Although
much of it I mean agreement with by.

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Much of what you have in the form of

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a supplement. Is material now are all of
it but much of it is Nigeria will back

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there had submitted to the to the committee
hoping that it would get into the

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committee report they saw fit to go with
their recommendations the part that what I

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have tried to do is something that at
one point we had talked about doing as

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a committee by ended up going with our own
recommendations what I have tried to do

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something that the mayor and
the conversation itself

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a couple of us had with with you asked
that our committee do which we really did

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not do in reporting that is he had asked
that we look at the art proposal. And

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soon we went with our own and I felt that
we I would like to have seen us look at

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the water holes and give you some. Benefit
of of the time that we spent on this

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subject and some of that we spent time
on but it does not make its way into our

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record so the supplement I've tried
to do some of that I've not taken

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a strong position one way or the other
as far as the hours of the committee

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recommendations but I've tried to give you
something which gives pros and cons both

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with regards to walk as

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a comparison with the city wrecker.
I think that my time is up.

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So I'll stop there. I think I would
like to just say it was Ingo that. The

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settlement represents

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a reworking of the committee report
and I was actually working with our

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documents in so doing I tried to delete

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a flick now it's I noticed and yes it
helped me put it out the other day that it

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did it disallowed that So there is

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a part of the noting from the original
reports and it was supposed to be there and

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I think the appendix is repeated
I also wanted to talk to soup

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a silver. Pride to see her today but she
was not in her office. At this and I

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talked about this

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a little bit but I I may ask her if she'd
be willing after talking to Sue to see

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if I can give you another version this
cleaned up a little bit and I also had

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a little question about the wording
and Jesse helped me with that

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a bit but we want to make it clear this is
the committee life expectancy is his is

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ended that this is not a product
of the committee even though it's

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a supplement but by the same token
I want to make clear that there is

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a connection with that committee report
the so I'd like to see if we can and can

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not clarify that

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a little bit as far as the title
song and the prophecy. It puts

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place very much for your work on the
committee and your continued work on the

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Circle thank you appreciate it very much
it was fun and I want to thank Council

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and if you would do this for
helping fund what I feel was

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a very. Substantial survey of the city

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preferences just as far as
only the site. You to be

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commended for putting out that you and
I believe that at the beginning you

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didn't identify yourself just for the
record if you're going to fire yourself yes

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feel. One of the five. Final
standing members of Health

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Services thanks very much sir any other
public comment on the resolution

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acknowledging we see the final
report of health services in. OK Any

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council coming all those in favor of the
resolution we say on Hi I'm ruined for you

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. And the opposed A-K.

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Press unanimously. The next item on the
agenda is the single reading we're going so

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far as

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a contract worth for development of
specifications and construction drawings Trillin

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and have your water quality record
every ten will replace what you are.

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There any. Comments or questions
on any public comment

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this is

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a. Ordnance to. Design project

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for which we received stimulus funding
over on the other side of Hampshire Avenue

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and there were pictures on the of the
particular needs that are part of the package

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for anybody who's wondering what
it is. I guess we are ready for

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a whole call votes this is

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a single reading words will
quickly scroll roll. All

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right. Guys have

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a next item on our agenda is

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a first reading we're going to let me have
to comport code total five elections.

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I see that the chair of the. And I can
get this name right the elections.

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Ford of elections is here and we
like to make other comments on. Our

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show good evening I just wanted to run
through really quickly and I'm in Sargent

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chair of the to come park board of elections
I just want to run through quickly in

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case people have not had a
chance to review and we've made

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a number of changes to the City Code
Title. One part is we clarify and

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definition is what the valid is and we
also add the term provisional ballot we

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haven't had provisional balloting before
and to come park. The next part is we

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simplified voting systems. Just to make it
simpler and also so we're not get nailed

439
00:42:36,16 --> 00:42:41,33
down choosing one system or another
it gives us flexibility in future and

440
00:42:41,34 --> 00:42:46,27
instruction in this instance in goading is
something we also covered We updated it

441
00:42:46,28 --> 00:42:52,66
in clarified it closing of polls and
tabulation of votes are also clarified and

442
00:42:52,70 --> 00:42:57,78
we've simplified and we can so it matches
better with using paper ballots. And also

443
00:42:57,79 --> 00:43:02,46
that we have instant runoff voting it's
called Park now see we're so far ahead in

444
00:43:02,47 --> 00:43:09,03
the set up. The next part is election
contest time contests and appeals

445
00:43:09,33 --> 00:43:15,04
it transfers authority to the board of
elections to decide on those contests and

446
00:43:15,71 --> 00:43:21,64
appeals and the right to appeal is telling
is updated Also next part is inspection

447
00:43:21,65 --> 00:43:25,88
of ballots in the event of an
election contests contest or

448
00:43:25,89 --> 00:43:30,37
a field and we remove specific reference
to voting machines because we may or may

449
00:43:30,38 --> 00:43:34,04
not be using voting machines we might have
scanners we might have other systems.

450
00:43:37,18 --> 00:43:44,13
And absentee voting is really. Revised
to be consistent with the charter

451
00:43:44,14 --> 00:43:48,75
amendment to allow anybody to vote by
absentee ballots or let's say there's no

452
00:43:48,76 --> 00:43:54,49
fault absentee voting emergency absentee
balloting is changed to late absentee.

453
00:43:55,38 --> 00:43:55,90
Just kind of

454
00:43:55,91 --> 00:43:59,64
a clarification and it allows people to
stop in and pick up an absentee ballot

455
00:43:59,73 --> 00:44:04,88
ballot from Jesse or whoever else is the
city clerk at the time determination of

456
00:44:04,89 --> 00:44:10,94
absentee voters eligibility and delivery
of ballots we clarified absentee ballots

457
00:44:10,95 --> 00:44:15,48
is simplified to give us more authority
regarding the form and just look at the

458
00:44:15,49 --> 00:44:20,94
ballot looks like tabulation of absentee
ballots also clarified contests and

459
00:44:20,95 --> 00:44:26,53
appeals clarified were OK penalties
is a municipal infraction is

460
00:44:26,54 --> 00:44:28,75
a civil offense and provisional voting is

461
00:44:28,76 --> 00:44:33,96
a new section added We haven't had that
before it has sometimes been possible to

462
00:44:33,97 --> 00:44:38,41
make arrangements for somebody to vote
provisionally if there's an error someplace

463
00:44:38,45 --> 00:44:39,59
in the rolls but now we have

464
00:44:39,60 --> 00:44:43,92
a specific provision for it and in case
anybody's wondering provisional voting

465
00:44:43,93 --> 00:44:49,55
means vote now it went out and vote now
in sorted out later so that doesn't the

466
00:44:49,56 --> 00:44:56,38
attempt is to enfranchise as many
people as possible any questions about

467
00:44:56,39 --> 00:45:03,21
that. Is just around the time
I and others say that I'm

468
00:45:03,22 --> 00:45:07,21
looking at the number of workers have lines
through them and the number of words

469
00:45:07,22 --> 00:45:12,89
that are I'm in that are included are added
and I commend you for taking out many

470
00:45:12,90 --> 00:45:19,09
more words and you've added. I would put
that back to the group OK And just in to

471
00:45:19,10 --> 00:45:20,11
some simple in

472
00:45:20,12 --> 00:45:25,00
a couple of instances it's much clearer
what we've done with fewer words off offer

473
00:45:26,02 --> 00:45:29,02
clearer language actually I
should give full credit just had

474
00:45:29,03 --> 00:45:34,99
a lot to do with that and thank
you Jesse and if I can have it

475
00:45:35,75 --> 00:45:42,50
it's been very helpful to have elections
board board elections. Because up until

476
00:45:42,51 --> 00:45:49,50
about one year or two ago we never
had one and it's kind of. By

477
00:45:49,51 --> 00:45:54,66
default felt to the council to have to
do something or something needed to be

478
00:45:54,67 --> 00:45:59,69
changed and yet that was kind of
uncomfortable because it was affecting our

479
00:45:59,70 --> 00:46:05,07
elections and so it was very helpful to
us to have the board and then to have.

480
00:46:06,20 --> 00:46:11,79
Excellent volunteers that came forward to
comprise the board. We really appreciate

481
00:46:12,02 --> 00:46:17,06
appreciate your efforts to chair the
board to move these changes forward

482
00:46:18,21 --> 00:46:23,80
investigate better ways to do elections
come forward with proposals really

483
00:46:23,81 --> 00:46:30,72
appreciate all your work thanks and all
convey that to what she's doing and hear

484
00:46:30,73 --> 00:46:35,12
the questions from the council and
serve anybody who'd like to provide

485
00:46:35,13 --> 00:46:40,18
a public comments on this frustrating
ordinance amending our elections.

486
00:46:43,10 --> 00:46:49,94
OK. All those in favor please say
our eyes and the opposing. Silent.

487
00:46:52,46 --> 00:46:56,73
Thank you thanks the next item is

488
00:46:56,74 --> 00:47:00,53
a first written word this without being
revised just point zero nine that's the

489
00:47:00,54 --> 00:47:05,28
current year pay scale for staff were not
covered by what does work in the city I'm

490
00:47:05,33 --> 00:47:12,22
sure like to make care happens here and I
heard it I just said if you can you can

491
00:47:12,23 --> 00:47:19,20
move your move because my workplace
are here because yes it's it's

492
00:47:19,21 --> 00:47:25,58
handy to do it first thing
you know for. Sure.

493
00:47:26,97 --> 00:47:33,11
I'm sorry. If I don't find.

494
00:47:35,43 --> 00:47:41,98
For you or just get your.
Stuff if I can get.

495
00:47:46,88 --> 00:47:50,65
This off. Somehow.

496
00:47:55,44 --> 00:48:01,35
Opposition state still pilot
project was here in March

497
00:48:02,22 --> 00:48:04,33
presented to the finance. From

498
00:48:04,51 --> 00:48:10,11
a shop and. In general
follow up with shots for

499
00:48:10,12 --> 00:48:16,73
a job market. Which offers below market
incentives to correct this and then

500
00:48:17,70 --> 00:48:19,42
she applies to pay scales on

501
00:48:19,43 --> 00:48:26,31
a classic. Pay Scale is one
percent. We don't have

502
00:48:26,33 --> 00:48:32,93
a pay scale for this time but still and
specialists will come back here perhaps

503
00:48:32,94 --> 00:48:39,61
five. Years. Thank you and I will.

504
00:48:40,78 --> 00:48:46,94
Point to everybody that this train just
don't take effect until I go over and acted

505
00:48:47,42 --> 00:48:54,12
so there's no record person on one of who
we do it then it has an effect if they

506
00:48:54,35 --> 00:49:01,18
have to and so. If the option one comes
back it will happen the first day but you

507
00:49:01,19 --> 00:49:08,10
no longer delays the problem or the
change has any questions or comments

508
00:49:08,11 --> 00:49:13,82
questionable right or agenda item number
five how many employees are we talking

509
00:49:13,83 --> 00:49:20,19
about the first time in I don't have it
broken up with me and actually I do you go

510
00:49:20,45 --> 00:49:22,66
back and just have to.

511
00:49:33,16 --> 00:49:33,65
Just have

512
00:49:33,66 --> 00:49:40,99
a. Question

513
00:49:41,15 --> 00:49:47,100
here it is. For those that
are. Not represented by

514
00:49:48,19 --> 00:49:51,69
have asked me that are not in the police
pay plan that are not in the police here

515
00:49:52,06 --> 00:49:57,64
it's thirty seven police and there's
thirty one in this in the covered by the

516
00:49:57,65 --> 00:50:02,93
police pay place was. A lesson to

517
00:50:04,68 --> 00:50:10,57
all. Of Us About sixty
six thousand with the

518
00:50:11,31 --> 00:50:18,09
police and stuff and we kept

519
00:50:18,10 --> 00:50:23,25
the old stuff just feels like we got
people skills in fact I just don't know I

520
00:50:23,25 --> 00:50:27,82
didn't think it was just I
thought I could do this.

521
00:50:30,88 --> 00:50:35,80
I wish and like this is all about how people
see here to look at it here hopefully

522
00:50:35,81 --> 00:50:40,16
will be come back in July
with the simple act of skill

523
00:50:43,39 --> 00:50:49,89
comes from of course. The
man promised that. The

524
00:50:49,90 --> 00:50:56,27
scales for the lower level positions
were above market I don't want.

525
00:50:57,59 --> 00:51:04,15
To wait she said to show that the left lower
level positions were. Above the market

526
00:51:04,46 --> 00:51:09,17
so that the pay brackets for those were
more successful so I'm looking at this and

527
00:51:09,61 --> 00:51:16,23
for the people who are watching on their
twenty two great Christmas tree I only

528
00:51:16,24 --> 00:51:20,80
see. Two graves the one I.

529
00:51:27,30 --> 00:51:33,57
Really was with twenty eight On twenty
eight actually not when I don't see any

530
00:51:33,58 --> 00:51:40,50
where there where the market
rate is less than one are

531
00:51:40,72 --> 00:51:46,44
still players aware are paying for it would
be about. The market rate in any form

532
00:51:47,32 --> 00:51:52,36
so my question is in comparison to the
previous to the previous faintly just search

533
00:51:52,37 --> 00:51:57,26
does that mean that we refused for the first
of the lower levels to actually reduce

534
00:51:58,06 --> 00:52:04,86
pay. Levels where it's not required because
he's black if the pay brackets changed

535
00:52:05,32 --> 00:52:10,98
no no the boy you know has reduced the
time you know inception to being we didn't

536
00:52:10,99 --> 00:52:17,42
secure thanks to
consumption Thank you Mary

537
00:52:17,93 --> 00:52:24,45
I. Continue to feel that market
really just means. I have

538
00:52:24,46 --> 00:52:28,57
a good idea during his
difficult economic time and.

539
00:52:33,22 --> 00:52:36,92
I just reinforces very feeling just think
that it is the people at the higher

540
00:52:36,93 --> 00:52:42,44
grades are the ones who are. Actually
going to help the pay grade increases

541
00:52:43,87 --> 00:52:49,43
were the people who are
really. So I do not support

542
00:52:54,10 --> 00:53:00,58
any of the comments. I'll
just say that this is too

543
00:53:01,31 --> 00:53:01,78
this is

544
00:53:02,60 --> 00:53:09,43
a process that's built into our pay system
and how long is it since this was done

545
00:53:09,66 --> 00:53:16,56
meaning it was ninety nine so if there
were potential problems that need to

546
00:53:16,57 --> 00:53:20,52
do fixed as part of a market
based system that this is

547
00:53:20,56 --> 00:53:26,74
a chance to fix that and
then going forward we have.

548
00:53:28,52 --> 00:53:34,19
Hopefully the proper pay for the job being
done so that we don't have problems with

549
00:53:34,66 --> 00:53:35,63
trying to fill

550
00:53:35,64 --> 00:53:40,43
a job. Let's put out there we're not
paying them and we can't attract the right

551
00:53:40,81 --> 00:53:45,25
people writing and writing and it's also
retention Yeah and I'd also like to

552
00:53:46,21 --> 00:53:51,24
comment that even though it's in the general
there was an equity space start kind

553
00:53:51,25 --> 00:53:51,94
of where they were on

554
00:53:51,95 --> 00:53:57,31
a scale it varies tremendously by title
and so that's that's very helpful but

555
00:53:57,32 --> 00:53:57,53
having

556
00:53:57,54 --> 00:54:01,74
a market standing instead for the individual
titles they can see what's the correct

557
00:54:01,75 --> 00:54:08,11
market ranking as well I just have one

558
00:54:08,97 --> 00:54:14,06
comment to Bruce's to sort of support
Bruce's point in that if you think about it

559
00:54:14,07 --> 00:54:19,49
from an economic perspective feet you don't
do this we don't mean competitive what

560
00:54:19,50 --> 00:54:24,43
happens is people eventually we and the
best people will likely leave because

561
00:54:24,44 --> 00:54:31,16
they're able to get other jobs in
other. Governments and the way that

562
00:54:31,17 --> 00:54:36,59
we have generally we dealt with reducing
budgets in any way is not to refill

563
00:54:36,60 --> 00:54:40,62
physicians you don't. Cut positions so
it's going to happen is you going to lose

564
00:54:40,63 --> 00:54:45,65
your best people and then not publish
positions and have the people who are not as

565
00:54:45,66 --> 00:54:50,76
good I don't call them not good but not
as good as the best people so I would I'm

566
00:54:50,77 --> 00:54:57,21
in favor of. Passing this and if we need
to deal with the budget side of things we

567
00:54:57,22 --> 00:55:02,01
should. Cut positions partially
based on performance

568
00:55:04,81 --> 00:55:10,83
and I and I would have. Attracting and
retaining hopefully the best and the

569
00:55:10,84 --> 00:55:15,64
brightest will. Pay us much
better dividends than on.

570
00:55:18,22 --> 00:55:23,34
Any public comment on this first
reading of the ordinance revising

571
00:55:23,41 --> 00:55:27,35
a scale OK since it's

572
00:55:27,36 --> 00:55:33,20
a first reading always with people in
favor we say on Alright well as opposed.

573
00:55:37,54 --> 00:55:39,91
So we will have a come back

574
00:55:39,92 --> 00:55:44,23
a second reading assuming customers
was going on about I.D.S.

575
00:55:44,46 --> 00:55:50,32
So that was six to one. The next item.

576
00:55:52,08 --> 00:55:55,47
Of stock or if you get five and
six together you know we need

577
00:55:55,48 --> 00:55:59,33
a lot if we only get
five actually. Starts.

578
00:56:03,95 --> 00:56:08,56
With like us Number three Secondly customer
Flay this is the first three mornings

579
00:56:09,12 --> 00:56:12,100
thing that we buy stuff when I play
skillful police officers we are seeing

580
00:56:13,04 --> 00:56:19,51
discussions. As anybody else in the comments
on these because the public have any

581
00:56:19,52 --> 00:56:26,14
comment on this one although you
favorably say on. A polite you know

582
00:56:27,19 --> 00:56:27,99
the same result is

583
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:37,22
a pretty strong. Next
item on our journey. Is

584
00:56:37,23 --> 00:56:42,46
the consent of we have. Two items
on the consent of gender that's

585
00:56:42,47 --> 00:56:45,86
a resolution recognizing National Public
Works week makes seventeenth the twenty

586
00:56:45,87 --> 00:56:49,99
third and single reading when it's authorizing
special contract for services for

587
00:56:50,00 --> 00:56:56,61
professionals. Like move the consent of
China. That doesn't come from play move

588
00:56:56,62 --> 00:57:02,42
because for very second all of this statement
we say are. You close your eyes have

589
00:57:02,60 --> 00:57:07,98
ever met but. I guess we'll let you.

590
00:57:09,69 --> 00:57:13,62
Know you're going to cry
that's very kind of the way.

591
00:57:16,79 --> 00:57:23,65
I. Write it so it's hard to do

592
00:57:23,66 --> 00:57:29,66
a recall when you're on the road. Where

593
00:57:29,67 --> 00:57:33,44
a little over schedule but I think we will
take our break and we'll come back for

594
00:57:33,45 --> 00:57:34,96
a last frame switch or work something.

595
00:58:00,16 --> 00:58:06,04
We're just dumpsters and storage units
in the word of way and council member

596
00:58:06,11 --> 00:58:13,00
clearly wanted to. Bring this up and
discuss it in the public works director is

597
00:58:13,01 --> 00:58:19,83
here and if you want to tell us the
only important things we need to

598
00:58:19,84 --> 00:58:23,50
know in the little peppery with questions
and we'll make you change everything and

599
00:58:23,51 --> 00:58:26,54
we'll go from there what
we thought as well as

600
00:58:26,55 --> 00:58:28,39
a novel exercise or at least I thought as

601
00:58:28,40 --> 00:58:32,17
a novel exercise this time around this
we really have a discussion so I can get

602
00:58:32,18 --> 00:58:35,53
a better sense of what you'd like to see
in New York and see if anything rather

603
00:58:35,54 --> 00:58:40,04
than the sometimes it's easier to comment
on an existing document so we're taking

604
00:58:40,05 --> 00:58:45,81
this new approach on this particular issue
the city does permit they use their

605
00:58:45,82 --> 00:58:49,53
right away for storage
downstairs or what we call

606
00:58:49,54 --> 00:58:54,92
a storage box or construction upstairs.
Her process is that someone applies for

607
00:58:54,93 --> 00:58:56,17
a permit we go out to take

608
00:58:56,18 --> 00:59:00,60
a look at this site if it meets our
requirements which means if it's not too close

609
00:59:00,61 --> 00:59:02,28
to an intersection and if it's not

610
00:59:02,29 --> 00:59:07,22
a no parking side of the street we
allow the resident to get a permit to

611
00:59:07,23 --> 00:59:11,08
a story that dumpster for a period
of up to six months there's been

612
00:59:11,09 --> 00:59:16,49
a number of issues and it occurred over
the past year or so one of the things is

613
00:59:16,50 --> 00:59:20,45
that we're getting more and more requests
for storage dumpsters and we're also

614
00:59:20,46 --> 00:59:23,81
getting more and more complaints
from residents driving by or seeing

615
00:59:23,82 --> 00:59:26,04
a dumpster in getting
irritated it's been there for

616
00:59:26,05 --> 00:59:32,37
a long time. Internally we've also been
quite concerned with some of the damage

617
00:59:32,38 --> 00:59:34,58
that's been done to the
city right of way as

618
00:59:34,59 --> 00:59:39,11
a result of construction dumpsters years
chips or gadgets and the curb gadgets and

619
00:59:39,12 --> 00:59:44,00
the road surface and once the dumpster
company leaves and they leave behind the

620
00:59:44,01 --> 00:59:49,49
damage and the city is then left with doing
their repair when it does its street or

621
00:59:49,50 --> 00:59:54,35
curb or gutter work in the future so I
know it comes when claims have an interest

622
00:59:54,36 --> 00:59:58,64
in this issue and so we've
just sort of. Put before you

623
00:59:58,65 --> 01:00:03,85
a list of potential changes that we could
make to the ordinance. Most of these

624
01:00:03,86 --> 01:00:04,62
things have

625
01:00:04,63 --> 01:00:10,70
a. Have we have some experience with and
other ordinances so you see some of the

626
01:00:10,71 --> 01:00:12,25
suggestions like for instance

627
01:00:12,26 --> 01:00:15,34
a public comment period we
have that currently now is

628
01:00:15,35 --> 01:00:20,25
a process in the true permit
process providing a bond or

629
01:00:20,26 --> 01:00:21,54
a security we have that in

630
01:00:21,55 --> 01:00:27,97
a number of permit process primarily related
to storm center or construction when

631
01:00:28,39 --> 01:00:31,78
construction companies doing something
the right way we have the ability to ask

632
01:00:31,79 --> 01:00:32,10
them for

633
01:00:32,11 --> 01:00:36,03
a bond or security to cover the cost in
the event it's not done correctly and the

634
01:00:36,04 --> 01:00:41,52
city would have to have. To do that. There's
also the interest of limiting the time

635
01:00:41,53 --> 01:00:41,65
that

636
01:00:41,66 --> 01:00:46,93
a construction they get could get sat three
months or an idea that's been tossed

637
01:00:46,94 --> 01:00:50,81
around I was also looking at some other
jurisdictions laws and some have an

638
01:00:50,82 --> 01:00:53,45
absolute limit on you can I go beyond X.

639
01:00:53,46 --> 01:00:56,75
Number of months and if you if you need
to then you've got to come up with

640
01:00:56,76 --> 01:01:00,60
a different social and and there are
different solutions that exist though they

641
01:01:00,61 --> 01:01:02,71
could potentially could be
more suspense and one is

642
01:01:02,75 --> 01:01:09,25
a site storage and any location the other
or some other pod companies will actually

643
01:01:09,54 --> 01:01:14,97
take the part away and store it so there's
the storage garage approach there's also

644
01:01:15,43 --> 01:01:21,62
a pod on delivery so there's some options
for people offsite So those are the

645
01:01:21,63 --> 01:01:25,71
suggestions really had an interview and he
changed the code requires it to remain.

646
01:01:26,75 --> 01:01:30,90
A decision of the council
so whenever we get

647
01:01:30,91 --> 01:01:35,26
a draft of our first reading based on the
comments tonight then we can bring that

648
01:01:35,27 --> 01:01:42,11
back in and tweak it as he comes
from the clay questions or comments

649
01:01:42,90 --> 01:01:48,80
directly first of all thank you for

650
01:01:49,83 --> 01:01:55,78
taking this on your role and pulling
out of the ways that we could

651
01:01:57,10 --> 01:02:00,56
. In the last couple of years

652
01:02:02,21 --> 01:02:08,55
a lot of complaints from residents who live
around the areas where sometimes there

653
01:02:08,90 --> 01:02:15,58
are and other close to those who don't live
like right around it they have to drive

654
01:02:15,59 --> 01:02:18,23
past it and find it to be never again

655
01:02:18,23 --> 01:02:23,65
a safety hazard there wider than your
average car is to say and I would say that

656
01:02:23,66 --> 01:02:29,77
the majority of complaints that I've gotten
actually been about the past and not so

657
01:02:29,78 --> 01:02:36,72
much about the dumpsters so thank you
for this and some suggestions that I

658
01:02:36,73 --> 01:02:42,17
would have is that. Being able to put
something on the roadway be conditional on

659
01:02:42,18 --> 01:02:46,18
someone showing demonstrating that they
actually cannot put it on your property.

660
01:02:48,19 --> 01:02:55,01
I've had two dumpsters at my house and
one in the street when I first moved

661
01:02:55,02 --> 01:03:02,01
in. Primarily because I was. Disassembled
my basement so I needed actually

662
01:03:02,02 --> 01:03:03,47
to have the brushes players with

663
01:03:03,48 --> 01:03:08,16
a collar stuck out Second want to
put in my driveway because I have

664
01:03:08,17 --> 01:03:12,52
a driveway and I don't need to I
think if somebody has a place to put

665
01:03:12,79 --> 01:03:19,63
a dumpster on the property that
that's where it should. The other

666
01:03:19,64 --> 01:03:26,57
thing is. I don't think that we should
allow people to put storage spot in the

667
01:03:26,58 --> 01:03:31,90
public right away for any longer than it
takes to load them because the fact is

668
01:03:31,91 --> 01:03:37,88
that all of the places do take the fully
loaded way and they and they store them

669
01:03:37,89 --> 01:03:42,19
that services they provide in the idea
that we're going to provide storage for

670
01:03:42,20 --> 01:03:45,30
people's belongings on them
on the street which is not

671
01:03:45,31 --> 01:03:51,06
a necessity there's an alternative for
that and and by George there isn't an

672
01:03:51,07 --> 01:03:56,65
alternative necessarily for this for the
dumpsters. And sure instruction projects.

673
01:03:58,41 --> 01:04:02,70
And I think pointed out last time you're
the most egregious case with somebody who

674
01:04:02,71 --> 01:04:04,64
actually was using

675
01:04:05,12 --> 01:04:11,30
a pod and their construction.
That was storing stuff for

676
01:04:11,45 --> 01:04:16,34
another another entity not even for the
homeowners but you can essentially just I

677
01:04:16,35 --> 01:04:19,51
mean I suppose you could make money off
of that and get the city permit and then

678
01:04:19,52 --> 01:04:25,65
you could offer local storage because
I. Just don't think that's appropriate

679
01:04:26,25 --> 01:04:29,93
so I would recommend that we come up with

680
01:04:29,94 --> 01:04:36,47
a time frame that just allows people to
load and unload the storage and they would

681
01:04:36,48 --> 01:04:41,45
have to haul them away. The last point
I would like to make is it's been

682
01:04:41,74 --> 01:04:48,01
a lot of this is about visibility as well
as just what it. Looks like. You know we

683
01:04:48,02 --> 01:04:52,18
don't let people in their corner have their
bushes I think over over three piece

684
01:04:52,26 --> 01:04:55,78
house you can see around them and I think
the reason why I get more place about the

685
01:04:56,02 --> 01:05:01,83
pots and pans other bands are you
know four feet high maybe five feet.

686
01:05:03,62 --> 01:05:09,18
But the store fights are in Tempe high
really I just can't see can't see around

687
01:05:09,19 --> 01:05:16,01
that often so I feel more flexible

688
01:05:16,02 --> 01:05:20,89
about the dumpsters I think maybe asking
people to store them on the street if you

689
01:05:20,98 --> 01:05:25,23
used the lowest version
of them so that there's

690
01:05:25,24 --> 01:05:26,57
a little bit more visibility around

691
01:05:33,04 --> 01:05:38,17
a small brown I would agree with coast over
papers first totally different reasons

692
01:05:38,18 --> 01:05:45,01
I think these parts are horrible I
source they are ugly. Face it there for

693
01:05:45,02 --> 01:05:45,52
weeks at

694
01:05:45,53 --> 01:05:52,11
a time and they may be traffic
hazards but they also are

695
01:05:52,12 --> 01:05:58,89
just idiots and they also.
Advertise the services of the

696
01:05:58,90 --> 01:06:05,89
park company that. Extra over the front
of it so it's an ongoing effort has

697
01:06:05,90 --> 01:06:10,50
been sitting right in the middle of some
of us busy or thoroughfares so I think

698
01:06:10,51 --> 01:06:17,25
it's the time as council member clay
alluded to. Should be very for very

699
01:06:17,26 --> 01:06:20,16
short term fixed period they are

700
01:06:20,17 --> 01:06:25,80
a convenience to the person who is moving
and therefore they should be there only

701
01:06:25,81 --> 01:06:31,90
for the time that it takes to move stuff
into the woods just once weeks hours and

702
01:06:32,11 --> 01:06:38,92
to arrange for the parts company
to come and take it to that it

703
01:06:38,93 --> 01:06:40,33
was never intended to be

704
01:06:40,37 --> 01:06:46,96
a long term solution for the benefit
of the property owner or the

705
01:06:46,98 --> 01:06:48,74
renter it's really for

706
01:06:48,74 --> 01:06:54,88
a very short term I would like to see the
ordinance modified so it makes them free

707
01:06:54,93 --> 01:06:57,06
clear so everybody knows that it is not

708
01:06:57,07 --> 01:07:03,29
a substitute. We're taking your belongings
to one of the many storage facilities in

709
01:07:03,30 --> 01:07:09,27
the area regarding the dumpsters
it may be especially in

710
01:07:09,28 --> 01:07:13,93
a case where it's on the street and causing
damage or could cause damage that there

711
01:07:13,94 --> 01:07:20,11
ought to be some reasonable bond post just
so that if there is damage to the street

712
01:07:20,12 --> 01:07:25,59
afterwards there is monies that have been
deposited with the city that can then be

713
01:07:26,26 --> 01:07:31,78
used to fix whatever damage the dumpster
causes hopefully that will be an

714
01:07:31,80 --> 01:07:35,46
accounting nightmare I don't know that
there are that many of them around to tell

715
01:07:35,48 --> 01:07:42,01
you the truth I see them in my ward from
time to time but I think it would be and

716
01:07:42,02 --> 01:07:43,51
it might go

717
01:07:43,52 --> 01:07:48,31
a long way toward solving this problem of
uncompensated damage the city that has

718
01:07:50,88 --> 01:07:56,67
consumed runs. I agree that this is

719
01:07:56,68 --> 01:08:01,74
a good thing through that to
work on to control. I see

720
01:08:01,75 --> 01:08:07,46
a difference between Pods and dumpsters.
I think we are concerned about in fourth

721
01:08:07,47 --> 01:08:12,89
meant that I'm trying to think about how
to do enforcement correctly and I think we

722
01:08:12,90 --> 01:08:16,35
ought to leave I don't allow
two weeks for a pod and put

723
01:08:16,35 --> 01:08:22,35
a big orange sign on the part of sticky
Sun which has the end date and when that

724
01:08:22,35 --> 01:08:27,13
end they just passed a lot of our
officers just good with fifty dollars

725
01:08:27,13 --> 01:08:33,36
a ticket but have no charge for it during
that two week period and on need dumpster

726
01:08:33,40 --> 01:08:37,67
I think that there ought to be a
fifty dollar. Per month charge with

727
01:08:37,68 --> 01:08:44,36
a two month. Limit and again a fifty
dollars ticket after two months and again

728
01:08:44,40 --> 01:08:47,42
a big old orange sun which as the end

729
01:08:51,54 --> 01:08:57,58
customer seems Thank you
Mary I wish. We double would

730
01:08:58,49 --> 01:09:02,53
council member Clay has said that he agreed
wholeheartedly with her assessment of

731
01:09:02,54 --> 01:09:09,27
the situation. I can foresee
that some residents may be

732
01:09:09,28 --> 01:09:15,22
using the cause to store construction
the jury instructions so in addition to

733
01:09:15,23 --> 01:09:21,42
moving in what you say destruction of
storage again I would do if they could

734
01:09:21,43 --> 01:09:24,90
demonstrate that they could do that on
their own property rather than just

735
01:09:27,57 --> 01:09:31,15
a consideration for how long it
might be on the street. For me

736
01:09:31,15 --> 01:09:35,34
a little bit longer and

737
01:09:38,87 --> 01:09:45,18
waive your customer might just have

738
01:09:45,19 --> 01:09:46,99
a few questions one
we're not talking about

739
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:52,57
a supine two parter dumpster that goes on
someone's own property rights Well that

740
01:09:52,58 --> 01:09:58,27
is that certainly after the Council currently
our code just feels right away there

741
01:09:58,28 --> 01:10:04,04
are some states that regulate the use of
permits that permit odds or construction

742
01:10:04,05 --> 01:10:07,10
and I'm sure some private property as well
but we don't currently have that and I.

743
01:10:09,79 --> 01:10:14,49
I might be interested. In
somehow trying to deal with.

744
01:10:16,93 --> 01:10:19,78
Cards in particular there are in
place some people's properties for

745
01:10:19,79 --> 01:10:25,04
a long time not in my ward now but when I
lived in comes from member Robinson's or

746
01:10:25,04 --> 01:10:28,19
. Before. There was

747
01:10:28,20 --> 01:10:33,37
a part that was in someone's front yard for
well in their driveway for nine months

748
01:10:33,37 --> 01:10:35,40
. Or

749
01:10:35,41 --> 01:10:41,69
a year and you know it to come from our
various when I think it's just unsightly

750
01:10:42,09 --> 01:10:49,03
and I can understand song may need to for
some period of time but it seems. Like

751
01:10:49,92 --> 01:10:50,69
six months would be

752
01:10:50,70 --> 01:10:56,37
a reasonable period of time for something
to be on someone's right. Or their

753
01:10:56,38 --> 01:11:01,61
solutions if it comes to. Other solution
you know some construction projects are

754
01:11:01,62 --> 01:11:02,77
very large and can take

755
01:11:02,78 --> 01:11:08,91
a long time. And so we're saying after six
months you can have the dumpster fire

756
01:11:08,95 --> 01:11:14,60
potentially and in your new citizen currently
on the right but other solutions and

757
01:11:14,61 --> 01:11:18,28
gruesomely thinking this is the best are
the solutions that get around that if you

758
01:11:18,32 --> 01:11:23,56
go beyond the six month. Time frame for
dumpster Well neighbors may want to speak

759
01:11:23,57 --> 01:11:29,98
to it but my own sense of the issue is
that really has to do with how well

760
01:11:29,99 --> 01:11:36,94
a contractor schedules and and plans
their work in fact depending on

761
01:11:36,95 --> 01:11:40,68
the cost of the dumpster and what's the
benefit cost benefit to them so the

762
01:11:40,69 --> 01:11:42,37
contractor just using

763
01:11:42,38 --> 01:11:46,92
a truck to haul debris away daily is
sometimes more cost efficient than

764
01:11:47,27 --> 01:11:50,87
a dancer just started depends on if they
have it in their repertoire Now if you're

765
01:11:50,88 --> 01:11:53,22
bringing in a dumpster from
an outside source it's

766
01:11:53,23 --> 01:11:58,58
a guaranteed five hundred bucks you know
for each siding in the hall and then if

767
01:11:58,59 --> 01:12:03,58
you go over weight you have to pay for the
additional money for that so as I live

768
01:12:03,59 --> 01:12:06,86
it depends on the contractor themselves
and the work they're doing the level of

769
01:12:06,87 --> 01:12:12,97
debris we have to work with contractors
to try to encourage them to use trucks

770
01:12:12,98 --> 01:12:18,02
instead of dumpsters and you get next
response just depends on the convenience

771
01:12:18,03 --> 01:12:22,64
issue for that contractor but there's
any number of ways you could also start

772
01:12:22,65 --> 01:12:26,43
construction or bring on the mind of a
property and then you know arrange for

773
01:12:26,44 --> 01:12:31,20
a large tract of common mode and haul it
away so there's there's alternatives it

774
01:12:31,21 --> 01:12:37,51
just happens to deal with the efficiency
and the equipment level of the contractor

775
01:12:38,41 --> 01:12:44,33
and do I do other places require on I'm
just wondering about this practice I have I

776
01:12:44,34 --> 01:12:45,98
did his family class sending him in

777
01:12:45,99 --> 01:12:50,01
a quick look thank you answer some of the
other jurisdictions because we have found

778
01:12:50,02 --> 01:12:53,84
requirements for some other things
that just came to my pass as

779
01:12:53,85 --> 01:12:57,93
a way to deal with the damage I'm supportive
of both consumer claims that it was

780
01:13:00,10 --> 01:13:01,76
cause for which the producer because.

781
01:13:07,39 --> 01:13:14,18
I do think. If I'm going to be. Flown
to group like that if we imagine

782
01:13:14,66 --> 01:13:21,32
somebody. Who's we. For that half and

783
01:13:21,37 --> 01:13:26,83
so. I can imagine using
those troops things for.

784
01:13:27,97 --> 01:13:33,09
Somewhat longer periods and just loading
it up and I don't want to have people try

785
01:13:33,10 --> 01:13:37,12
to schedule the guy to come and take the
part away or some similar thing but I can

786
01:13:37,13 --> 01:13:42,41
easily imagine a somewhat longer timeframe
for that I feel like the idea of having

787
01:13:42,42 --> 01:13:48,02
a bunch of things security is the
kind of idea for the damage.

788
01:13:51,42 --> 01:13:55,61
And I really do wonder if there is

789
01:13:55,62 --> 01:14:01,20
a way to encourage people to use it to place
it on their property instead of in the

790
01:14:01,21 --> 01:14:07,87
roadways but it does create. A molar problem
of an unsightly dumpster regardless of

791
01:14:07,95 --> 01:14:13,25
whether it's located in the driveway or
on the street. A number of years ago when

792
01:14:13,25 --> 01:14:18,07
we did our renovation it took an enormous
amount of time as you all know these

793
01:14:18,09 --> 01:14:22,30
renovations take longer than you think
they're going to we had a dumpster

794
01:14:22,32 --> 01:14:29,02
a driveway for most of the six months.
And the thing was incredibly unsightly.

795
01:14:32,27 --> 01:14:33,19
So I do wonder

796
01:14:33,20 --> 01:14:40,04
a little effort the thinking about. The
search of these things the placement of

797
01:14:40,05 --> 01:14:46,11
these things on the property itself might
be an issue we want to think about to to

798
01:14:47,14 --> 01:14:48,29
try out

799
01:14:48,30 --> 01:14:54,93
a couple thoughts. Generally going in the
direction that my colleagues are going.

800
01:14:56,90 --> 01:14:57,64
We definitely need

801
01:14:57,65 --> 01:15:04,14
a bong for anything that's placed on the
street whether construction debris.

802
01:15:06,15 --> 01:15:06,56
Or

803
01:15:06,70 --> 01:15:13,53
a pond. I wasn't sure which gave us
what we have currently really addressed

804
01:15:13,54 --> 01:15:17,99
as pawns. I can see that definitely addresses
dumpsters maybe there are sections

805
01:15:18,00 --> 01:15:22,60
that she didn't give us but it didn't look
like the language addressed parts aren't

806
01:15:22,85 --> 01:15:28,87
just really just here for further
instructions I'm just obstinate when they're

807
01:15:28,88 --> 01:15:34,72
fairly recent. I think as far as the
construction dumpsters go I think yes we

808
01:15:34,73 --> 01:15:40,72
should have language that. Makes it clear
that if they can go if there's any way

809
01:15:40,73 --> 01:15:44,86
that they can go on the property they need
to be on the property that there needs

810
01:15:44,87 --> 01:15:45,11
to be

811
01:15:45,12 --> 01:15:49,06
a demonstration of need that it has to be
in the street because the street is for

812
01:15:49,07 --> 01:15:55,35
the use of the public and this is
essentially taking it up for private use.

813
01:15:56,52 --> 01:15:59,47
So I think that if it's on
the street it not only needs

814
01:15:59,48 --> 01:16:06,27
a bond it's the need to be charged for
the time that they're monopolizing that

815
01:16:06,28 --> 01:16:11,94
spot on the street and I thought about
it in terms of. Not necessarily

816
01:16:11,95 --> 01:16:15,08
a pick trying to pick a
timeframe and saying you know

817
01:16:15,09 --> 01:16:20,81
a month or three months or six months or
whatever it might be but to say OK. We're

818
01:16:21,53 --> 01:16:24,15
for whatever like say

819
01:16:24,19 --> 01:16:30,41
a thirty day period. And ability to put one
in that spot for that thirty day period

820
01:16:30,42 --> 01:16:33,80
or a part of that certain period is X.

821
01:16:33,80 --> 01:16:39,32
Amount of money if you want to go second
month you can pay again third month pay

822
01:16:39,33 --> 01:16:45,89
again and I think that. Picture of
the construction dumpster question

823
01:16:46,78 --> 01:16:50,35
fairly quickly because then you've got an
economic incentive to minimize the time.

824
01:16:51,22 --> 01:16:57,82
But you've got the ability to extend the
project is largely I think for the pods I

825
01:16:57,83 --> 01:17:04,39
see them as different in many ways I see
them as if they're on the street and

826
01:17:04,40 --> 01:17:08,87
occupying the space it's essentially in
lieu of paying the company or the storage

827
01:17:08,88 --> 01:17:14,30
facility where the storage locker or
whoever it might be for that space and the

828
01:17:14,31 --> 01:17:19,83
kind of spaces that charge for the for the
space that those pods take up runs into

829
01:17:19,84 --> 01:17:24,89
the hundreds of dollars per month and so I
think if they're upon us we have to say

830
01:17:24,90 --> 01:17:31,73
OK if it's on the street provide
a pond as well and make it for

831
01:17:31,74 --> 01:17:38,63
a shorter period of time like two
weeks to to load it up if you

832
01:17:38,64 --> 01:17:42,72
can't get yourself organized to fill one
of those things in two weeks you're not

833
01:17:43,05 --> 01:17:49,03
very organized and there are you know you
should be able to do it and that there

834
01:17:49,04 --> 01:17:49,59
should be

835
01:17:49,88 --> 01:17:56,80
a charge for that time as well. And I'm
not sure what those charges should be

836
01:17:56,84 --> 01:17:58,57
I don't know whether
they should be tied to

837
01:17:58,58 --> 01:18:03,99
a municipal infraction or whether it
should be essentially rent. And if it goes

838
01:18:04,00 --> 01:18:05,24
over whether there is

839
01:18:05,25 --> 01:18:10,74
a miserable infraction in addition to that
with and I think that in certainly in

840
01:18:10,75 --> 01:18:13,90
the case of a construction dumpster. The

841
01:18:14,38 --> 01:18:17,13
a sticker on it wouldn't
work because you could have

842
01:18:17,14 --> 01:18:21,85
a case where the dumpster gets filled and
they bring an empty in on the on the

843
01:18:21,86 --> 01:18:26,78
truck and they take away the full womanly
empty want to use the stickers on so I

844
01:18:26,79 --> 01:18:28,54
think in the case of

845
01:18:28,55 --> 01:18:34,16
a dumpster it might be that
the need to be you know

846
01:18:34,17 --> 01:18:35,59
a stake in the yard or

847
01:18:35,60 --> 01:18:39,77
a light somewhere on building something
that stays there and says there is this

848
01:18:39,78 --> 01:18:45,11
permit to do this for this period of time.
And of course the more prominent bigger

849
01:18:45,13 --> 01:18:50,19
Those are they can get up to do but I think
I think there are ways to address this

850
01:18:50,23 --> 01:18:56,93
and supervise good behavior and I have
given much thought to. What we might do

851
01:18:57,47 --> 01:19:04,15
to control what. Private property
I know in my own case I have

852
01:19:04,16 --> 01:19:08,51
a dump truck and that's what I use and
park on the property never gets parked up

853
01:19:09,36 --> 01:19:14,28
because if I did I would get the neighbors
upset and I would get the authorities

854
01:19:14,29 --> 01:19:20,78
upset because you can't park
commercial vehicles on the street

855
01:19:21,35 --> 01:19:25,71
and I look on Pods because
dumpsters as commercial

856
01:19:28,99 --> 01:19:30,97
but one thing I need
to check with the N.C.

857
01:19:30,98 --> 01:19:34,96
Attorney's office I mean clearly we have
the ability to charge the application fee

858
01:19:34,97 --> 01:19:39,84
which is what currently charged based on
you know. You know well there is amount of

859
01:19:39,85 --> 01:19:43,31
time it would take to administrative
process right now see twenty five dollars

860
01:19:43,77 --> 01:19:48,31
application fee and the bond we can justify
based on you know protection the city

861
01:19:48,32 --> 01:19:53,76
asked us and attentional amnesty right away
I don't know about the rights concept I

862
01:19:53,77 --> 01:19:58,60
think you know really from them as to why
you and Charlie we charge for using the

863
01:19:58,61 --> 01:20:05,50
public for any way for the. Cult
come stuff and it's partly on what

864
01:20:05,91 --> 01:20:12,55
potential damage to the street to city
infrastructure and you have the same work

865
01:20:12,56 --> 01:20:17,72
and work in there right away are you
telling me companies. Based on me.

866
01:20:20,37 --> 01:20:27,21
When your foot. You know excavation that
they're doing it charges related to that

867
01:20:28,06 --> 01:20:28,86
I have to take

868
01:20:28,87 --> 01:20:35,74
a look at that so if you look for the
one of the father of the bunch and I

869
01:20:35,75 --> 01:20:39,10
was thinking in terms of life for a for

870
01:20:39,11 --> 01:20:43,47
a construction dumpster if you're
paying five hundred dollars for

871
01:20:43,48 --> 01:20:50,39
a dumpster seems reasonable
to say that charge for

872
01:20:50,40 --> 01:20:55,00
a period of time for the use of the
street for that which you like one or two

873
01:20:55,01 --> 01:20:55,51
hundred dollars

874
01:20:55,52 --> 01:21:02,16
a month. Exploring I don't know anything
that I had thought there's no way these

875
01:21:02,17 --> 01:21:06,42
things tend to work in sound I would
encourage the council to move to

876
01:21:06,43 --> 01:21:07,35
a rather than

877
01:21:07,36 --> 01:21:12,07
a citation municipal infraction just
then they got to get so many write

878
01:21:12,08 --> 01:21:16,53
a check and if they don't pay the check
and then we have to send it over to see

879
01:21:16,54 --> 01:21:20,29
turning to his son he's got to go to court
if you search long process I mean I

880
01:21:20,30 --> 01:21:24,53
found it make our maker Thank you went ahead
of time I found it far more effective

881
01:21:24,54 --> 01:21:30,31
just the threat of empowerment is that
companies show up quite quick and so you

882
01:21:30,32 --> 01:21:34,55
know we could just make that clear and in
the application process if you if you've

883
01:21:34,78 --> 01:21:38,53
passed your date where that time is no
longer apply you know the city has the

884
01:21:38,54 --> 01:21:43,66
authority since it's in the public right
away to tow and to impound it and that's

885
01:21:43,67 --> 01:21:44,36
a that's

886
01:21:44,37 --> 01:21:50,23
a cost of the company that has that
opportunity really stereotypes of their lives

887
01:21:50,24 --> 01:21:53,00
and others are impounded
just to be a C.E.O.

888
01:21:53,92 --> 01:21:53,98
In

889
01:21:53,99 --> 01:21:57,83
a way I want to have you learn to think you're
too and they don't have parents of anymore

890
01:21:57,84 --> 01:22:01,44
and therefore they can't make money because
it's hard to find meaning and I mean

891
01:22:01,45 --> 01:22:05,55
there's issues there that you have to be
prepared for certainly the company that

892
01:22:05,56 --> 01:22:09,30
owns the downstream world lost the asset
the residence for whatever is in there now

893
01:22:09,31 --> 01:22:13,91
question its construction debris is just
trash and seals again sometimes going but

894
01:22:13,92 --> 01:22:18,16
if that's out of you know someone's
household loggings that you impounded and

895
01:22:18,17 --> 01:22:23,39
there's in the dumpster he actually creates
and we were treated like if you go it

896
01:22:23,40 --> 01:22:30,14
was up to you it was there for its object
to licenses to negs of the fees of

897
01:22:30,15 --> 01:22:35,71
the local government. We
call it Mayor Williams Yes

898
01:22:36,62 --> 01:22:41,40
I have a concern about the
storage. Which is but I think it's

899
01:22:41,41 --> 01:22:47,51
a match for them to use for rotating
storage if somebody is renovating

900
01:22:47,52 --> 01:22:51,78
a house or painting a house or
something similar. They rotate

901
01:22:51,79 --> 01:22:57,69
a room into that you know storage space
while it was being painted or renovated I

902
01:22:57,70 --> 01:23:04,49
think is that so I can imagine that
situation in which. The. Temporary

903
01:23:04,50 --> 01:23:11,37
storage space you wanted on the
property because. Of the quick turnover

904
01:23:11,38 --> 01:23:15,79
you wouldn't you would want to take the
furniture away two days later three days

905
01:23:15,80 --> 01:23:21,12
later bring it back so I think we do need
to think about those sitting around for

906
01:23:21,13 --> 01:23:26,72
some period of time also I know in New York
City when I sometimes when people have

907
01:23:26,73 --> 01:23:30,85
a pardons they load all of the extra
stuff from their apartment into

908
01:23:30,86 --> 01:23:34,09
a van and drive around the city one morning
happening and then spring up back in.

909
01:23:36,38 --> 01:23:43,20
The party while I'll
have. The music space I

910
01:23:43,21 --> 01:23:44,95
haven't heard any comments on the public.

911
01:23:53,39 --> 01:23:59,91
I think that would be great. I think
people don't realize it until it shows you

912
01:24:01,30 --> 01:24:04,96
know what it was like and they
were much better to come up

913
01:24:08,38 --> 01:24:12,53
and like right now

914
01:24:15,94 --> 01:24:22,93
I'm struck. Grants and think. You can see

915
01:24:22,95 --> 01:24:27,06
out of kind of it is they don't necessarily
think your neighbor should. Stop you

916
01:24:27,07 --> 01:24:30,79
from having the use of a
dumpster in your yard or

917
01:24:30,81 --> 01:24:36,77
a possum in your yard that's what we're
going to allow people to do when the public

918
01:24:36,92 --> 01:24:42,64
comment period. Could encourage their
neighbors to make modifications to their plan

919
01:24:43,02 --> 01:24:47,92
in mind and I think it's important.

920
01:24:52,46 --> 01:24:54,78
One of the things that we don't
know of course when we go last Take

921
01:24:54,79 --> 01:24:59,71
a look I mean clearly we're well aware of
the sideline issues and we know to look

922
01:24:59,72 --> 01:25:05,04
for driveways across make sure that nobody's
asked to back into that city that but

923
01:25:05,05 --> 01:25:08,94
there are you know number of cars in the
neighborhood parking kind of constraints

924
01:25:08,95 --> 01:25:11,98
particular issues that you
just start getting now from

925
01:25:11,99 --> 01:25:16,62
a drive. Up the street though I think you
know ninety nine point nine percent of

926
01:25:16,63 --> 01:25:22,41
what the issues are we're going to be able
to identify just from the same customer

927
01:25:22,85 --> 01:25:25,70
might be interesting particularly
on the permits that you know it's

928
01:25:25,71 --> 01:25:28,53
a three month home and then
has to be renewed to have

929
01:25:28,54 --> 01:25:34,54
a public comment upon renewal because some
people but if you're the contractor who

930
01:25:34,55 --> 01:25:39,06
wasn't doing their job in terms of how
they manage the dumpster would be an

931
01:25:39,07 --> 01:25:45,39
opportunity for people to make their
opinions and I would argue for one month

932
01:25:45,68 --> 01:25:51,29
period would not want to find
that hot versus concern.

933
01:25:52,84 --> 01:25:58,91
Like. Yeah yeah I think that's
history two weeks on the power.

934
01:26:00,46 --> 01:26:07,05
And very limited. One one
month on the construct and

935
01:26:07,56 --> 01:26:11,49
construction if you want to really
work hard and I like the idea.

936
01:26:14,53 --> 01:26:15,80
You're making it clear that there's

937
01:26:15,81 --> 01:26:21,60
a there that it is something like one
month and there are probably coming is

938
01:26:21,61 --> 01:26:22,80
welcome so that if there's

939
01:26:22,88 --> 01:26:28,48
a question about how it's working that
that might be addressed and what we're

940
01:26:28,49 --> 01:26:33,04
actually trying to see here so I think
it's actually that way about me and I want

941
01:26:33,05 --> 01:26:35,17
but when you talk you know
when we're looking at

942
01:26:35,18 --> 01:26:38,54
a six month period I mean going to three
months now you just one month we have

943
01:26:39,15 --> 01:26:43,65
prior to the thirty day period No I think
it's neighbors and then you know I don't

944
01:26:43,66 --> 01:26:47,28
know the street I think I can see I can see
where it's just the process and there's

945
01:26:47,29 --> 01:26:50,50
some sign that says you know if
you have a problem with this it's

946
01:26:50,51 --> 01:26:57,12
a thirty day real period you know some of
your comments and if they want to read

947
01:26:57,13 --> 01:27:02,86
you will have your guns but having to go
out and be proactive in soliciting them

948
01:27:02,87 --> 01:27:09,12
just make it clear in the
process. Well. You know

949
01:27:09,97 --> 01:27:14,01
if they've got thirty think this isn't about
you know like and they're going to go

950
01:27:14,02 --> 01:27:16,84
for something you think you might go
for really won't because you're from.

951
01:27:21,88 --> 01:27:28,62
Any other comments do you have
enough to go. Come back with some

952
01:27:28,84 --> 01:27:32,06
ice and you're going to come back
with some options maybe you know

953
01:27:32,07 --> 01:27:37,80
a proposal and some options within the
proposal can draft that language and you'll

954
01:27:37,81 --> 01:27:43,37
have it ready next week. I don't think
that's. All i just marinate on.

955
01:27:46,75 --> 01:27:47,06
Thank you.

956
01:27:53,59 --> 01:27:54,77
Our last item is

957
01:27:54,78 --> 01:27:58,89
a discussion of process for selection
three words which council member Phil

958
01:27:59,38 --> 01:28:05,10
unexpired term of our so far
on expires only. After that.

959
01:28:07,59 --> 01:28:14,27
And I guess I'll just reiterate. The last

960
01:28:15,47 --> 01:28:22,25
couple of vacancies that we've
had. When I can remember

961
01:28:22,26 --> 01:28:26,54
Elmer should resign because he got elected
to the county council customer snipper.

962
01:28:28,23 --> 01:28:33,34
Was written Randy and special election
because that was more than two hundred forty

963
01:28:33,35 --> 01:28:38,41
days before the next election.
The one prior to that.

964
01:28:40,85 --> 01:28:46,57
Council member Maziar move and that was
less than the two hundred forty days before

965
01:28:46,58 --> 01:28:51,67
the election and the council at
that point says that we wanted to

966
01:28:54,12 --> 01:28:59,91
solicit people who were interested in filling
that seat until the next election and

967
01:28:59,95 --> 01:29:06,60
we and we made it clear that we.
Would appoint somebody who expressed

968
01:29:06,92 --> 01:29:10,52
that they would not be running in that
election because the council did not want to

969
01:29:10,81 --> 01:29:12,43
be in the position of annoying people

970
01:29:12,43 --> 01:29:17,71
a successor who wanted to let
the voters of that ward. Have

971
01:29:17,71 --> 01:29:24,69
a have an open process without comment
that was made by the council. And

972
01:29:24,70 --> 01:29:31,32
I would encourage us to use that
same process. Trying to remember

973
01:29:31,82 --> 01:29:36,62
if there was another they can see in my
memory before that I'm not thinking of how

974
01:29:36,63 --> 01:29:41,75
to think there may have been. Comments

975
01:29:47,35 --> 01:29:53,12
because for some I thought the process to
use with council member my as she left

976
01:29:53,13 --> 01:29:59,72
was very good of her very well she just

977
01:30:00,70 --> 01:30:07,23
modeled after that her comments yes

978
01:30:08,51 --> 01:30:14,05
that's. Coming up. But.

979
01:30:17,85 --> 01:30:22,47
You know what. I think if

980
01:30:22,48 --> 01:30:29,32
a great option. The city manager you

981
01:30:29,33 --> 01:30:36,20
know the timing on putting them in
the newsletter I think the deadline

982
01:30:36,21 --> 01:30:42,99
is this week is that correct us
our next money. OK so that we

983
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:49,76
have to let folks could
go in the. Juice for. The

984
01:30:50,70 --> 01:30:57,66
timing of this I believe customer
Perry will be taking his seat

985
01:30:57,89 --> 01:30:58,13
and

986
01:30:58,14 --> 01:31:05,11
a full month for it and we're required
to what I believe many twenty

987
01:31:05,12 --> 01:31:09,42
eight is the date and so we're required to
fill it within sixty days and that would

988
01:31:09,43 --> 01:31:13,02
mean that we would need to fill it
by July twenty seventh which is

989
01:31:13,03 --> 01:31:19,45
a Monday and my hope is that we can
feel much sooner than that. And

990
01:31:19,47 --> 01:31:21,95
essentially what we're looking at is a is

991
01:31:21,95 --> 01:31:28,34
a vacancy of June through the middle of
November consider also place off the month

992
01:31:28,34 --> 01:31:33,48
of August we're sensually looking at somebody
who would be fulfilling that position

993
01:31:33,49 --> 01:31:34,33
for about four and

994
01:31:34,34 --> 01:31:40,89
a half months and. I believe we if we

995
01:31:40,90 --> 01:31:46,56
advertised the last time then we had I
don't know if these two opportunities for

996
01:31:46,57 --> 01:31:50,02
Rep people to come and
talk to the council in

997
01:31:50,03 --> 01:31:55,98
a council meeting and talk about their
interests we can go that route we can come

998
01:31:55,99 --> 01:32:01,70
up with something else it would probably
be helpful to let people know general

999
01:32:01,71 --> 01:32:02,61
timeframe and

1000
01:32:02,62 --> 01:32:08,57
a general process to put in the newsletter
so that they knew. The people feel like

1001
01:32:08,57 --> 01:32:15,36
. Knowing who who has expressed an interest
of his it would go to the city clerk

1002
01:32:15,83 --> 01:32:22,23
and. That we would have some maybe
two two dates and council meetings.

1003
01:32:23,40 --> 01:32:29,86
May be what the middle the end of

1004
01:32:29,87 --> 01:32:36,50
June to interview folks
who make the decision and

1005
01:32:37,36 --> 01:32:42,84
let them know that essentially that would
that would take one of those months and

1006
01:32:42,85 --> 01:32:45,76
make it so that they would
be essentially. Has

1007
01:32:45,77 --> 01:32:51,37
a cast member in July over the recess in
August and September October November.

1008
01:32:54,05 --> 01:33:00,61
Any thoughts or reactions on how we what
we put in the newsletter or whatever else

1009
01:33:00,62 --> 01:33:06,27
we put out. Currently so that we can have
as much information as possible because I

1010
01:33:06,28 --> 01:33:06,58
don't have

1011
01:33:06,59 --> 01:33:10,10
a comment on that I just want to hear from
council member Barry I think he knows

1012
01:33:10,11 --> 01:33:14,40
best what sort of interest this is
Ward so I'd be interested to hear his

1013
01:33:14,41 --> 01:33:19,60
perspective on this and yes thank
you I think because as I recall.

1014
01:33:21,17 --> 01:33:27,86
With replacement here I think the
idea of giving folks in this ward

1015
01:33:27,87 --> 01:33:34,10
a chance to come down and talk to you and
express their interest qualifications

1016
01:33:42,25 --> 01:33:47,37
and I believe that. What the newsletter
should be coming out right around the first

1017
01:33:47,38 --> 01:33:52,13
of the month. And. The.

1018
01:33:54,57 --> 01:33:59,88
We have with the last council meeting.
Is June twenty second because the work

1019
01:33:59,89 --> 01:34:04,56
American minister believe. The
following week on June twenty ninth

1020
01:34:06,54 --> 01:34:11,01
so that would essentially
give it to the first is

1021
01:34:11,02 --> 01:34:16,18
a Monday so there are three meetings in
June after that its fifteenth and twenty

1022
01:34:16,19 --> 01:34:22,98
second. We might want to say that.
We will we would like to interview

1023
01:34:22,99 --> 01:34:27,92
people. Fisk and possibly
the twenty second as well

1024
01:34:33,00 --> 01:34:39,49
have two dates available for those who
can't make it on one of them and hopefully

1025
01:34:39,50 --> 01:34:45,20
we could maybe decide on June twenty
second and if not then it would be when we

1026
01:34:45,21 --> 01:34:51,64
come back. After. Fourth of
July and our next meeting is

1027
01:34:52,10 --> 01:34:52,91
to watch next.

1028
01:35:03,47 --> 01:35:10,14
Summer if. We could also make an effort
to publicize it another side surrender

1029
01:35:10,15 --> 01:35:15,27
slathering because that's. Voiced maybe
are fine because that reporter about

1030
01:35:17,33 --> 01:35:21,89
the feature article on the topic of so
we might be able to contact him because

1031
01:35:24,36 --> 01:35:25,99
that's what I did

1032
01:35:26,04 --> 01:35:32,78
a question about the interest wording or
what I think I've heard is that he would

1033
01:35:33,10 --> 01:35:40,02
ask that somebody service an interim
council member and that it's been done

1034
01:35:40,03 --> 01:35:46,70
before. And we take it
on if they stay yes I

1035
01:35:46,71 --> 01:35:51,67
will only serve as position as an interim
thing we can take them at their word and

1036
01:35:51,68 --> 01:35:56,32
that's that. Kind of thing change their
mind and say oh never mind I'm going to run

1037
01:35:56,32 --> 01:36:01,30
I'd like to make it clear that I want back
I'm never through with this we go yes

1038
01:36:01,31 --> 01:36:06,27
that's right that's about to go. This is

1039
01:36:06,28 --> 01:36:10,54
a clear cut coming I'm sure. I see.

1040
01:36:16,11 --> 01:36:21,51
She cites. Yes.

1041
01:36:27,83 --> 01:36:30,92
And that we will attempt
to interview people.

1042
01:36:37,38 --> 01:36:44,23
In June and then the person in it
might possibly go over it early July.

1043
01:36:59,60 --> 01:37:06,43
Twelfth June twelfth some good

1044
01:37:06,44 --> 01:37:12,88
people I'm OK if I go to they
don't get good and then they'll

1045
01:37:13,43 --> 01:37:19,21
say. Oh well

1046
01:37:21,65 --> 01:37:26,62
I guess it's possible if we decided on the
twenty second and the first phase and

1047
01:37:26,63 --> 01:37:31,32
they wanted to go would it make sense to
I don't know would it make sense to have

1048
01:37:31,36 --> 01:37:37,82
them go variance kind of help them come
up. And if so and it might make sense for

1049
01:37:37,83 --> 01:37:38,32
us to make

1050
01:37:38,33 --> 01:37:45,38
a point or even one. Song

1051
01:37:45,38 --> 01:37:51,51
. And the thoughts from the city manager
in terms of expenditures. That's already I

1052
01:37:51,52 --> 01:37:55,48
think the biggest problem is just I don't
we would have either had to commit to

1053
01:37:55,49 --> 01:37:57,57
paying for a room or releasing

1054
01:37:57,58 --> 01:38:02,20
a room reservation far before that date I
think it's probably the biggest potential

1055
01:38:02,21 --> 01:38:08,48
problem but what if we when
we. Hold in reserve if we

1056
01:38:09,43 --> 01:38:13,96
if we do name someone before that
and they are interested we'll find

1057
01:38:13,97 --> 01:38:18,56
a way to make it happen they can double
life something can happen they can come

1058
01:38:18,57 --> 01:38:19,01
down for

1059
01:38:19,02 --> 01:38:25,91
a day or shooters on site registration.
Will match. Once they see all the

1060
01:38:25,92 --> 01:38:29,47
excitement about I know it's going to make
them go back on their promise not on.

1061
01:38:34,27 --> 01:38:39,71
Any other comments then the other
question. OK We're trying to.

1062
01:39:05,26 --> 01:39:09,82
Warn the world.