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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 17, 2015 1:08pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - I am hating the new Graphic user interface


I disagree with your advice. The Beta "feedback" mechanism is a dead end. Folks should keep the dialog going right here, in this thread, make their voices heard, and lobby to have their ideas considered -- both positive and negative. So here's my first suggestion: don't place statements in your Beta like, "Here, give us your email address and we'll get back to you on your idea." No. Be realistic. Be honest. Say, 'Give us your feedback in Forums, and if enough of you make enough of a stink, maybe they'll (MayberryRFDese contraction of "there will)" be some changes made.' On a positive note, it's interesting that the Internet Archive site does not work in my elderly parent's Internet Explorer (on a very vintage machine), but the Beta does. So it's not all gripes all the time from Yours Truly, 'Bat. You're getting something right with the Beta, at least where folks on old machines (and crappy browsers) are concerned. Here's a suggestion: try other colors besides white, black, and blue. Did you decide on these colors by focus group? Hmm, maybe find a focus group with imagination? Flat fuggin' tired of white, black, and blue, in which the Internet has been mired long enough. Another: a little HTML freedom goes a long way. How about more leeway for the user to try HTML -- hell, HTML5 gasp, iframes (or whatever the Style Gods prefer to iframes *this* week), css, JavaScript (blasphemy of blasphemies)! and as long as I'm blaspheming, I might as well go all in and add Processing and Processing.js, instead of nothing but the bloody emergency brake jammed to the floor 24/7/365 (and the maddening error messages -- or worse, the dead code displayed for all to see in plaintext)? How about a sandbox -- one that the Archive wheels actually follow and maybe raise an eyebrow at once in a while, when a mere mortal stumbles onto something cool -- W3Schools seems to do ok providing a sandbox (their "Try it Yourself" iframes) without their servers' having a meltdown. Why not the Archive? And finally: speaking of cool, do you know what would be downright frigid (in a good way)? Internet Archive Radio. Where folks who've never heard of the Archive before could go and get a load of it, and, "Where has the Archive been all my life?" Enter Streamerp2p radio, the wonderful creation of Iain McLeod. With this technology, the Internet Archive Radio fan could not only enjoy what the Archive has to offer, but do so in a green way, by helping out with bandwidth and energy/heat/water, spreading the burden around, rather than dumping it all on the Bay Area... I packed up a nifty thing called Streamerp2p 2.1 Broadcaster Guide whose concise info text file I strongly suggest you read now -- which any intermediate computer user can follow, and begin broadcasting within minutes, losslessly if she wishes. If you'druther not mess with my zip file, go directly to the horse' mouth: http://guides.audioaddictz.com/windows/audioguideswindows-step1.html. Now you're asking, "Well, that's all well and good, cousin 'Bat, but does it sound good?" Why, hear for yourself, cousin Archive Aficionado: UAP19b: The Isley Brothers, Father John Misty, and Other Goodies. Granted, the potential Internet Archive Radio listener would need to use the Player version, i.e, Streamerp2p 2.20 (note well, the Player version ends in 0 and the Broadcaster in 1) and master its borderline-intermediate-user demands. "(OH NO!" cries the forever sheltered Windows user, "You mean I might actually one day shed short pants for big boy ones)?"

This post was modified by Dupenhagen Moonbat on 2015-03-17 20:08:49

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Mar 16, 2015 9:31pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - I am hating the new Graphic user interface

re: feedback.
no, it's read, every last bit of it.
i personally have read every one of 10,000+ feedback emails.
and yes, we gather and "cluster" comments and feeback to see what we can do/adjust.

check out this list for detailed geeky info and changes, if interested:
https://archive.org/CHANGELOG.txt

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Poster: Mr Cranky Date: Mar 18, 2015 5:04pm
Forum: etree Subject: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

Mr Bat. The pleasant but null response from a historically helpful admin suggest you are in the way of a train. The changes are coming and only 'fixes' are being considered, not whether its a good thing overall. I do not know how forum posts about the Beta would be a bad thing so lets see if there are comments. Doe anyone have comments about the new Beta site?
This post was modified by Mr Cranky on 2015-03-19 00:04:00

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Mar 17, 2015 4:02pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

Hi Mr Cranky,

that's the maximal amount of info as to what's been going on.
I've read them and type them out, so dont feel they're unedited.

if you'd like a slightly less current and condensed and move visual (but *excellent*) summary of changes, you can see it also linked from the nav (BETA) circle/icon modal:

https://blog.archive.org/2015/02/12/whats-new-with-v2/

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Poster: Mr Cranky Date: Mar 18, 2015 5:02pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

Thanks.
This post was modified by Mr Cranky on 2015-03-19 00:02:07

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Mar 18, 2015 2:02pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

no, i got that -- you communicated fine 8-)

and i think we're fine w/ that level of "leakage".
we're *very* open compared to most similar sized companies/orgs!
8-)

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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 26, 2015 12:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

While it remains to be seen if the train is a Japanese MagLev or an AmTrak, as long as it's painted anything but white, black, and blue, I might catch the caboose.
This post was modified by Dupenhagen Moonbat on 2015-03-26 19:30:33

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Poster: loyaltubist Date: Mar 17, 2015 3:16pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

Don't like it. Can't find where in the heck the files are to download. If it ain't broken don't fix it. And it wasn't broken but that Beta version is broken. I panic when I see it.

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Poster: vanark Date: Mar 17, 2015 4:40pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

To see the files to download, there is a blue/white "Download" bar on the right side. Click on the bar and it expands to show you the file types for download. You can click on any of them to get a .zip of that file type, or click on "See all files" to get a page listing with all the files. Hope that helps.
This post was modified by vanark on 2015-03-17 23:40:09

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Poster: LynnTG Date: Mar 18, 2015 9:07pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

That list doesn't include pdfs any more.

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Poster: LynnTG Date: Mar 18, 2015 9:08pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Does anyone have comments about the new beta version?

Oh, and I *hate* the Beta. So now our library becomes Pinterest. The McDonald's of the library world. @@ I will never do research on a tablet. Can't they just make an app for people with toy screens to use?