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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 26, 2015 11:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - The new Graphic user interface wins and we have lost IA.


I've been following this thread fairly closely for some days now, but your BNRToast exchange's managed to fly under my radar till tonight. I'm more of a Fibber McGee & Molly guy, myself, but would I hate to see BNRToast take their ball and go home? Absolutely I would. Just knowing Bob & Ray are around for when I'm less ignorant and dumb, and therefore more ready to receive them, is a comfort I don't want to lose. But I'd also hate to think that BNRToast's staying or going hinges on the look and feel of the interface. I know, there's much more to the fundamental accessibility, usability, accountability, etc., and there's also relevance and perspective to consider, which I'll treat separately. As to relevance, Fibber McGee & Molly and Bob & Ray are and will remain relevant, as will the Archive, which helps maintain their artifacts. My question is, will she remain relevant to the everyman, or mainly relevant only to the technical and the technocratic? If the answer is the latter, keep a spare oar handy for me, would you? Meanwhile, I keep the Archive in perspective. While important, she must be considered in a broader spectrum of personal -- and national -- value. We may well be on the verge of nuclear conflict with Russia, and, while the Internet Archive and its future direction are important to me, moreso is my relationship to my children and grandchildren, for instance. I've spent a good deal of energy helping build berms against the constantly morphing destructive trends in IT in recent years, from SOPA and PIPA to FCC control of a once free Internet. I wish I had spent a thousandth as much helping my children build radiation-resistant berms (which we called "basements" in Utah) around their homes. Still, is the Archive a potential berm against the authoritarianism you correctly name? I believe this depends on us.

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Poster: BNRToast Date: Mar 26, 2015 12:43pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - The new Graphic user interface wins

This posting has no comments concerning the BETA and is not of use to the Internet Archives administrators. It would be a waste of time to read it as such.

Hi D M,
FM&M huh? Nice people. We have some of their tapes, but everything online is as good or better than ours. But B&R from the 70's were missing online and between us we have a large percentage of those missing episodes. Either from our original air-checks or traded tape reels. The person typing this was the one of us to originally pursue the uploading to this site.
What has been put on the Archive will stay, but we had hoped to fill out the entire period here. The reality that we are not really in control of anything and do not have any input shook our naive impression that things here were permanent and this would keep the historic shows available. It was the perceived miscommunication from the young folks at IA that frightened a couple of us the most. The one typing this will upload files where it is perceived to be best by the group when the group decides. He does have the 'alien touched it' feeling about things here though.

I quote the youngest one of us; "The library downtown used to have things called vertical files. These were large drawers filled with 8" by 10" photographs of stuff. I photographed many of them where I needed a copy. One day they were put in storage to make room for the VHS collection. Then the VHS collection was moved to make room for the CD's. These were replaced by the DVDs and now I'm being asked if I can make copies of my photocopies because those idiots at the library apparently threw out the original and now important photos from the vertical files."

As this posting is devolved a non constructive narrative and I hear someone has fired up quad "Dark Side" I will only add. Whoever has the 4 1974 tapes, please send them back! We have your "Round the Horne" tapes that you mistakenly put in the boxes when you returned them.
And DM, thanks for any berm work. It may still not be too late. This one will continue to function and waits for the word.
R3

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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 26, 2015 9:20pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - The new Graphic user interface wins

Whew. I'm back, and hopefully the cross-threading of my head is less pronounced. I'm glad to hear the Bob & Ray material on the Archive will remain. I must confess, I'm far more archivist than connoisseur, but I'm getting closer by the day to checking out your Bob & Ray collection. Thanks for sharing them with the world. Are you familiar with Gary Burbank, the hall of famer of WLW Cincinnatti? He was Sports and Talk, but I'd swear he were the inspiration for the Rock jock character in that other 70's show, WKRP in Cincinnatti, Johnny Fever -- if not for the show itself. Amazing talent, Burbank. Wonderful characters, like Earl Pitts, Gilbert Gnarley, and my favorite, Howlin' Muddy Slim, Your 60-Minute Jelly-Belly Toejam Man. Burbank signed off from WLW in December of 2007. I don't know if eight years qualifies as OTR, but by gum, there ought to be a Burbank collection. Check out #GaryBurbank on YouTube. What a trove! tc
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Poster: Dupenhagen Moonbat Date: Mar 26, 2015 7:33pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: OK - The new Graphic user interface wins

BNRToast, I misread your reply and made one of my own to you in error. I apologize. Hopefully I deleted that awful post before anyone read it. Now my head is screwed on straight(er), I'll give your reply a proper reading and answer. Regards, 'Bat
This post was modified by Dupenhagen Moonbat on 2015-03-27 02:33:00