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| Poster: | andrewbontrager | Date: | May 28, 2015 9:11am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
It doesn't seem to be quite the same as the classic site in that there isn't an icon showing the mediatype. That would be very useful for knowing what you're clicking on, as well as for fast scanning through search results using a screen reader.
What would it take to go one step further? the ability to plug in an identifier and have it pop up with just the description and the files in the item? Would you accept a donation to kickstart development?
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| Poster: | stbalbach | Date: | May 28, 2015 9:36am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
Glad you like it.
The media type icons are there, at least I see them in my browser (Firefox, Windows 7). I didn't test the site with other browsers so it's very likely the HTML has problems. If you can tell me your browser, version and OS I can check into why it may not be working.
The source is free and open for anyone who wants to fork. This is just one example of how it could be done, based on the classic site, but one could create entirely new interface with all sorts of options like your idea. Not a bad idea to have a page which includes description and file info on the same page.
Stephen
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| Poster: | andrewbontrager | Date: | Jun 1, 2015 9:30am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
windows XP, Firefox 3.6
Maybe the icons are there, but they aren't labeled as they are in IA classic. That's all right though, I think I can get around that inconvenience. The next question I have about your code: The page
http://balbach.net/cgi-bin/iacs.awk?iaquery=mediatype%3Aaudio&sort=-publicdate&page=1
shows the same results as
http://balbach.net/cgi-bin/iacs.awk?iaquery=mediatype%3Aaudio&sort=-publicdate&page=100
In the classic interface, I could open up 100 tabs with the page= from 1 through 100, all with different results in each. Of course it's utterly impossible do to it
with the new interface.
I'm just trying to be helpful, not bashing your page at all. I still like its speed.
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| Poster: | stbalbach | Date: | Jun 2, 2015 8:54am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
This post was modified by stbalbach on 2015-06-02 15:54:09
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| Poster: | stbalbach | Date: | Jun 1, 2015 10:16am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
The URL for iacs is constructed differently than the URL at IA. So in this case it would be:
http://balbach.net/cgi-bin/iacs.awk?iaquery=mediatype%3Aaudio&iapage=1
http://balbach.net/cgi-bin/iacs.awk?iaquery=mediatype%3Aaudio&iapage=100
I used &iapage instead of &page but there is no reason to do that. To avoid confusion I'll change it to &page. Same with &iaquery will change to &query to match the original URLs.
Regarding the sorting &sort=-publicdate that's a very good thing when browsing for new updates. My code doesn't presently support it. I'll look into adding this and will post an update here when done. Thanks for the feedback,
Stephen
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| Poster: | andrewbontrager | Date: | Jun 10, 2015 7:42am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
I'm just about done with my feedback. The mediatype icons are the only difficulty now.
Would it be possible to replace the icons with words? For instance, replace the audio icon with the word AUDIO. I understand it wouldn't be as colorful. It's up to you of course. When navigating by screen reader, there's just a blank line between the keywords of one item and the title of the next. If there was a way to search for carriage returns in Quick Find, I could quickly jump down the list of items, but I haven't found a way to do that.
Blessings,
Andrew Bontrager
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| Poster: | stbalbach | Date: | Jun 10, 2015 1:47pm |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
I haven't been able to replicate the problem though I'm sure it's because the HTML code isn't backwards compatible with older Firefox.
I added an alt="texts" tag to the mediatype image, can the screen reader pick it up?
For the break between search results it uses a solid line just like at the original IA site. However i have a few spaces proceeding - is it possible the screen reader mistakes it as a blank line due to the preceding space? Can it search on HTML code of the underlying source, or only what is displayed on the page?
Stephen
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| Poster: | garthus1 | Date: | Jun 10, 2015 2:26pm |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
Stephan's Script will be posted here:
http://50.252.101.89/
It is being worked on right now, it will be an optimized portal to the Internet Archive (an entire Site), and yes we intend to use words instead of those Icons.
Once I get this on the servers We have in Germany it will be even faster. We are open to any recommendations for optimizing the user's experience ... especially those of us who use the Archive for research purposes and even work.
Gerry
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| Poster: | andrewbontrager | Date: | Jun 11, 2015 3:16pm |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
Your tag did the trick. It now behaves exactly as the classic site does. There's a graphic between the items that tells me the mediatype. It's so cool that somebody actually listens.
As for the blank line between items, I looked again and yes, JAWS is mistaking the double space for a blank line, but I really don't mind that, now that there's a delineator between the items I can identify.
Stephen, you roc and so does your code.
Gerry, keep developing your site. I'm anxious to see how the final website looks.
Blessings,
Andrew Bontrager
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| Poster: | garthus1 | Date: | Jun 11, 2015 7:12pm |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
Thank you for the comments. Web design should be about functionality and usability ... not ego or power. Recommendations and the comments of others will help to make the 'Internet Archive Portal' a good experience for everyone using it.
Gerry
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| Poster: | andrewbontrager | Date: | Jun 10, 2015 7:42am |
| Forum: | texts | Subject: | Re: Announce: Classic Search website App writen by offsite user |
I'm just about done with my feedback. The mediatype icons are the only difficulty now.
Would it be possible to replace the icons with words? For instance, replace the audio icon with the word AUDIO. I understand it wouldn't be as colorful. It's up to you of course. When navigating by screen reader, there's just a blank line between the keywords of one item and the title of the next. If there was a way to search for carriage returns in Quick Find, I could quickly jump down the list of items, but I haven't found a way to do that.
Blessings,
Andrew Bontrager
