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Poster: picfixer Date: Mar 8, 2017 10:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

It may have to do with restored versions. For example, a restored version of "Things to Come" was released a few years ago. This version isn't PD.

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Poster: George Peter Gatsis Date: Mar 9, 2017 10:58am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

Interesting...

But, I downloaded the film directly from Archive... and uploaded to my youtube channel, with links back to Archive.

and they still can claim copyright notice???

GPG

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Poster: picfixer Date: Mar 9, 2017 1:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

The Archive copies of this film are the unrestored version and therefore in the public domain. The restored version has a new special copyright notice. The PD versions here at the Archive do not.

BTW I highly recommend the restored version DVD. Image and sound are excellent plus it contains extra footage not in the Archive copies which are TV edits.

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Poster: katieq Date: Mar 17, 2017 6:39pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

You are incorrect in your assumption that "restored versions" of films are eligible for copyright. If you restore something back to the original way it was shown/distributed there is nothing to copyright. As it is now just back to it's original state. Also by super imposing a fake new copyright also does not make it eligible for a copyright or make it copyrighted. If they add footage that was not originally published, that also would be PD as they footage they added was never copyrighted in the first place. I'm sure they would try to claim unpublished work or something. They always try to find some loophole but when the public domainer find loopholes they don't seem to want to accept them. The only way a copyright holder could try to copyright something public domain is to re-edit or add sound effects and then that version would be eligible for registration. Why you would want to mess with the original version anyways is beyond me? The only reason someone would do that would be so they can copyright their version. What's even more ironic about you pointing out how the TV edits here on the archive are OK is those would of been eligible for a new copyright by whoever edited them since it's technically a different edit of the film.
This post was modified by katieq on 2017-03-18 01:39:25

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Poster: R Pal Date: Mar 20, 2017 8:30am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

Many films that were considered to be PD turn out to be copyright and are eventually banned from the Internet Archive.
This post was modified by R Pal on 2017-03-20 15:30:53

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Apr 18, 2017 5:32am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

R Pal wrote:

"Many films that were considered to be PD turn out to be copyright and are eventually banned from the Internet Archive."

U.S. films released before 1964 had copyrights that only lasted 28 years. Most films here at the Archive are in the public domain because their copyrights were not renewed after 28 years. Those films are not just "considered" to be p.d.; they are p.d.

For example, two films from 1946.

1. The Killers
Its copyright was renewed in 1973:

R560650.
The Killers. By Universal Pictures
Company, Inc. 11 reels. (C) 21Aug46;
L514. Universal Pictures (PWH);
7Sep73; R56065O.

2. Behind Green Lights
Its copyright was not renewed.

If anyone can find a renewal for it, post it here and tell us where you found it.

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Poster: R Pal Date: Apr 18, 2017 3:15pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

Moongeam, These posting are a great example of the sometimes seen 'cascading communication confusion'. You may have noticed the "
This post was modified by R Pal on 2017-03-20 15:30:53 " on my earlier posting. The text of that posting was modified to clear up a misunderstanding by katieq of the original text. I did not post it to lessen the crimes of DVD rippers. I applaud any of the up-loaders here who take the time to locate, clean, restore and digitize the early films made available here.

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Poster: katieq Date: Mar 19, 2017 10:41am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: littledotstudios copyright claim PD films????

if I was banned...how would I be posting???

I have a life...got tired of moronic idiots thinking they know everything about copyright law. Also there is no quality guidelines with uploads to the Archive.org so anyone can upload anything and it shows. 99% of the content is complete shit quality wise. Usually you can find a better upload on youtube then here. Sad but true!